[Sewage2016]

Guys, I met a young Colombiana at a strip club on my off day where I went for happy hour and some eye candy. I didn't get a dance, tip her or sexualize the convo. I bought her a drink. We talked 30 minutes, club wasnt too packed. She's a solid 8. Prob 27yo, I am 44 yo, look younger and keep fit. I am financially successful too.

Got digits and made plans for legit date Monday night, probably will do high speed go Karting with drinks near my place with logistics planned out. All set, right?

So, am I just getting set up as a sugar daddy? I'm new to game and unsure why someone would jump this far in age, especially if she has guys all over her asking her out. She's definitely a looker and dances the way colombianas can. Any advice?

[Sidney Crosby]

you met a girl at a strip club, might as well try and bang her but you shouldn't ever consider her for a relationship.

Don't forget that guys pay her for sex, probably multiple guys per day.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I think you've answered your own question. Your gut is probably right on this, but your dick will try to convince you that she's in love (and so will she).

[Steve H]

Latinas in general like older men. They actually see the age difference in positive terms. I typically date 20-30 years younger than my age in Colombia. Most Colombian young men have no money and are pretty irresponsible. The ladies are used to their chico boyfriends knocking them up and then disappearing. American men are seen as a lot more dependable, have money and are good to them. I have asked many of them why they would go out with an older guy. The best answer I got was "What can I learn from some guy my own age?"

Dont worry about the age difference. Just enjoy that fresh young pussy.

Here is a good article with a similar point of view: http://blogcritics.org/ten-reasons-why-we-latinas-like/

[DonnyGately]

Agreed, Latinas love older men. 20+ y ears older, doesn't matter. My graying temples were specifically cited more a few times. Aim for 21, not 27.

[RatInTheWoods]

No harm giving it a shot, keep investment low until a return is acquired ;-)

Let us know how it went!

[WestIndianArchie]

" I bought her a drink."

Game over.

WIA

[Sewage2016]

I did hook up with the 2yo Colombiana after two meetings. I am a fan of gaming and the spoils of war are addicting.

She has some significant daddy issues but is an incredibly giving girl - yes definitely a girl at heart. This is gonna be fun.

[Sewage2016]

26yo

[BigTony]

Actually, strip clubs do serve one good purpose. You can test your gaming skills on the girls there. When I was really cut, I would go to the club and see if I could score while spending as little as possible.

Congrats on the score but keep it as a bang only friendship. Strippers are not stable enough for anything more than that.

[HankMoody]

I've met girls in the strip club before and "dated" them. It's not nearly as hard as you would think.

[PK1098]

(06-04-2016 07:19 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

" I bought her a drink."

Game over.

WIA

Hi WIA, I am a raw hand here, I was wondering how it is game

over if a guy bought a gal a drink.

[WestIndianArchie]

(06-19-2016 07:07 PM)PK1098 Wrote:  

(06-04-2016 07:19 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

" I bought her a drink."

Game over.

WIA

Hi WIA, I am a raw hand here, I was wondering how it is game

over if a guy bought a gal a drink.

" I met a young Colombiana at a strip club "
" I bought her a drink."

^Anyone who's been doing this for a while knows that strippers try to make you feel good so that you
- buy drinks for them
- get dances

It's her job.

So she uses her externals to catch your eye, and her game to hook you into spending money and getting nothing but a hard on and some wisps of perfume. She's going to try to get him into VIP or to buy a membership. She might even give him "her phone #".

And the "fish"/john/mark/trick/sucker becomes one of her customers. Little by little he comes to see her, develops a regular, and he keeps shelling out more and more. She'll see him outside of the club...to get more money out of him.

Though it is possible to stick out from all the beta providers by providing a lot more than the average - it's a lottery ticket.

Standard stripper/hired gun game (bartenders, waitresses, shot girls - women who use their sexuality to make money) - is to
- get her attention
- show that you're a boss
- don't validate her at all, until she starts chasing you.

With a regular girl of the same looks, but without the mercenary/battle hardened personality - you need to get her to invest a little bit.

With a stripper, you need her to invest a lot. That's why they have sugar daddies to pay their rent, but fuck losers and their boyfriends are criminals and drug dealers and dj's.

The losers get her to INVEST.

Monetarily, emotionally, et cetera. It's like when you stand in the line that moves slowly but surely...and then pauses...for what seems like an eternity. So you wait, and wait, and wait....because based on your past experience the line moves forward. The more you INVEST, the more likely you are to stay...wasting your time.

So when you pull a stripper, that's how you hook for more than a night. She's steadily investing in you, not you investing in her.

So if you buy a girl a drink in the club, that's already weak-sauce game for the most part.

If you buy a stripper a drink at a strip club, she's WORKING. She's not in "regular girl" mode, she's in "I'm at the office, this is a typical transaction".

Straight guys don't have anything remotely close to this, trading the "promise of sexuality" for favors.

This is the premise of woman.

A "good" woman doesn't do this. She plays things "straight".
So if a girl has no other skills than to entice men with sexuality...

Even among sex workers there's a hiearchy

- Fashion/super model at the top
- runway model
- lingerie model - victoria's secret

- pageant queen
- swimsuit model
- lingerie model - Fredrick's of Hollywood

- model mayhem/instagram/promo model

- shot girl/bartender/hostess

- cam chick
- stripper
- porn star
- escort
- street walker
- crack whore.

It's seemingly okay to live off your looks, but if you live off of your sexuality.....

Anyway, there are lots of stripper forums. You should read up on how the veterans school the newbies on how to make money off the fish.

The fact that this one worked out was a lark. She probably thought he was sexy, and his sub-communications to her were over and above the rookie technical mistakes. I wouldn't consider this a great pull, because there isn't enough detail, and I doubt that OP really knows how to tell that kind of story that a young player can learn from.

Lesson
- spending money on girls is a case by case analysis, but spending money on chicks that trade on their sexuality is a mistake 99 times out of 100.

WIA

[kazz]

WIA, You got me thinking about sexuality and the girls that just seem to ooze it. I worked in the nightclub game for many years and got to see so much inside information that I get now, but at the time, being young, stupid and horny I didnt get. With regards to sexuality, many of the girls I worked with were actually good girls, one was an absolute knockout, she was Australian-Spanish, her parents were extremely strict (not sure how she got on with them working in a nightclub dressing the way she did). Anyway she was a virgin, but was so flirty, would make a point of always pressing her tits on me when we talked.

Back then I also got to know quite a few strippers, they would come out with the bouncers, club owners etc sometimes. They are really in a league of there own, you hit the nail on the head with your statements on them. They are very big on image and status, however the powerful men with status they liked, in my particular case were bikies and criminals. I remember one night I was chatting to one of them and she said to me "you have some very important people here tonight". She was talking about the fact we had some heads of a large bikie gang in the club.

The Colombiana, is she new to the game? Find out a bit about her, not all strippers are damaged goods, some do it to pay way through uni ect. Still a big red flag though, id only ever pump and dump. I have only banged one stripper, she was a nut case. I scored here because of the hip club I worked at and also just happened to be the right place at the right time.

[Jl65514]

Haha!! This is a favorite past time of mine. I used to go into strip clubs all the time, game the girls and get their numbers. Most of the time you can catch them outside of work and they will bang you for free. Some of them really are nice women that are in difficult situations.

I personally wouldn't ever aim to make one of them my girlfriend but good times are most definitely to be had.

[WestIndianArchie]

(06-20-2016 08:05 AM)kazz Wrote:  

Back then I also got to know quite a few strippers, they would come out with the bouncers, club owners etc sometimes. They are really in a league of there own, you hit the nail on the head with your statements on them.

I've dated more than a few in my time.

It's the girls with the stripper mentality that work regular jobs that I actually find more "dangerous".

(06-20-2016 08:05 AM)kazz Wrote:  

They are very big on image and status, however the powerful men with status they liked, in my particular case were bikies and criminals. I remember one night I was chatting to one of them and she said to me "you have some very important people here tonight". She was talking about the fact we had some heads of a large bikie gang in the club.

All women are checking the social status. It's how they're built.

Game is basically where you recreate yourself as this bad ass alpha in her mind - because you're hitting those primordial impulses.

Let's just assume that all that evo-psych or blue pill view of the world is true - What game does is give the girl those feelings without the actual physical reality.

It's a mind fuck.

And once you realize that she'll just mold herself around what you make her perceive as alpha - ideally you'll start to see it elsewhere.

"These just people with ideas" - dead prez.

As for banging strippers
- be a drug dealer, or look like one.
- have very very cold game
- pull her at a dance club, not a strip club.

I've seen all three work, and made the last one work for myself several times.

You can usually spot them in civilian clothes because the heels are too tall, and they wear a lot of shiny shit (and the make up can be a bit much).

Also, if you don't have a regular job, they work out at the best gyms during off peak (i.e. when they wake up, because they've been at work all day long)

WIA

[Beirut]

Im a bit biased because one of my favourite experiences with a girl was with a vegas stripper and if i tell the story at every sentence of it, most guys would have jumped and tried to talk sense into me. And they would have been wrong.

I also met some cam models that i hit it off with very well.

And im not the usual kind of guy they would be assumed to go for at all.

I think strippers are girls just like any other, prone to liking someone and prone to playing them.

In fact if a stripper is playing you its usually within the scope of her job, as in to get you to go there more, etc... as opposed to seeing you outside of it.

Id say a "normal" girl playing you is more dangerous because its often a longterm play that you dont see coming.

Go for it and keep your eyes open. Whats worst that can happen? You see some gold digger sign that you could get from any girl and then you can bail.
Some guys in the game get too hung up on buying girls drinks and always paranoid about being played.

As for long term relationships, i guess thats complicated and carries more issues with it and will highly depend on mindsets of people involved.

[Sewage2016]

Abundant words of wisdom from WIA, Beirut, Kazz and others. Facts is that I ran almost zero game for this girl and plain got lucky. Actually, I pretty much treated her like a girl I meet at a non-stripping bar. I'm pretty new to game in general - just 12 months with less than 10 pulls. I went solo to the club, bought a few drinks, food and chatted up the bartenders. I declined all dances and sat back to enjoy the show. It was middle of the afternoon and there were maybe 8 dancers there. Once they knew I wasnt buying dances, they left me alone except for the tip parade.

When hanging out, I met this chick and motioned her to come talk which she did for about an hour and a half. I'm still learning whether any chick is sending legit IOIs or is gaming me. This Colombiana is very capable of gaming men as WIA points out. She's good at her job. For some reason the stars aligned for me and we got along. WIA had good insight about not buying her a drink, gotta fix that for the next chick. Of course, I know not to LTR her...her phone is nonstop ringing and getting texts from guys. It's unreal.

OTC we hung out at my place, had food and a bottle of wine. She brought other things for recreation and stayed most of the night. I made sure not to pedestalize her, or even give a shit if she showed any man trapping comments. If she wanted to hang and have fun great, if not there's the door and you drove yourself so ciao. I'm not saying that sealed the deal. She was pretty physical from the door and clear she didn't want me visiting her at the club when working.

My first Colombian and she's a walking stereotype: sensual, curvy, flaky as hell and started calling me papi. Weird but I don't overthink it. Like I said, it is fun. Maybe it'll last, maybe it won't.

Sewage

[WestIndianArchie]

^ This guy has an eye for the game. You will do well.

WIA