[Vinny]

(10-10-2016 01:50 AM)AkiKinnunen Wrote:  

I went to a posh party last weekend. So here is what happened. The participants: My Russian friend (lets call him S), his British friend (lets call him J) and the 2 female acquaintances of the British guy (but he later said that he only knew one of them, lets call her A). I guess his plan was to bring us to neutralize the cockblocker (the female company of A, lets call her C).
It was hard for normalos to get in because it was atomic face control; so me and the Russian guy (who were wearing good but not too expensive cloths) were in danger of staying out, the British guy has some years more of Moscow nights, so basically he already knew this place and its atomic fc, so he dressed up in black suit and white shirt (classic style).
For some miracle we all got in, I suspect the Bouncers were attracted/blended by the 2 females (A is kind of 9 while C could be seen as a solid 8).
I have many of such events throughout the year, but this one made me shocked because it made me loose my faith on the legendary Russian LMR. That’s why I decided to post.
While J from the beginning of the evening paid for both A&C all the drinks & snacks, I understood from the beginning that I will have to hunt on the dance floor or in the lounge, since S was interested in C. Well the party went on, A was kind of refusing J approaches and even one of his attempt to kiss were repelled. And remember: They already knew each other, kind of.
And again I went for walk in and around the dancefloor, and after a while I was get bored from this upper class snobbish girls, so later on I came back to say goodbye to my friend, but when I returned only J and A were in our table. Hmm, where is S? “-They must be dancing or something” J said. “-Im texting her for almost 1 hour and no reaction” said A (who seemed to be furious). I could read in her eyes, “stay here I am get bored too”, but I am not an asshole, bros before hoes.
And to be honest I don’t really care where S+C were, so I took my phone and texted that I am leaving to another bar, just in case. When I was leaving the club I passed the Bedrooms entrance and from a distance I saw both coming out from there. OMG, this is what shocked me because 1-I never saw a WC fuck in Russia before and 2-They knew eachother for just 20-30 min.
“I can’t have sex with you, I don’t even know you enough as we are meeting for the first time” lol, what a bullshit line, next time I hear it I will laugh my head off. And this is the proof that, despite of mega gold digging among Russian girls, money not always save you ass because J didn’t get A and, on the other extremity, S banged C without spending one single Kopeki on her.

What a complicated peace of reading material. J, S etc.... Just give them imaginary names so we don't have to memorize a list of letters next time

But yes easy girls exist everywhere (thanks god). It depends on how strong is the shaming culture in a certain country and how well they are hiding.

How good is this dude's game? Are you 100% sure they actually banged?

[invictusiii]

Lol. Man that was like reading one of the crazy word problems from back in grade school. Yeah crazy fast bangs can happen anywhere at anytime. Just need to keep an eye out for opportunity. It's more of an exception rather than a rule in my experience though.

[AkiKinnunen]

(10-10-2016 12:32 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

What a complicated peace of reading material. J, S etc.... Just give them imaginary names so we don't have to memorize a list of letters next time

Kinda lazy, my bad

(10-10-2016 12:32 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

But yes easy girls exist everywhere (thanks god). It depends on how strong is the shaming culture in a certain country and how well they are hiding.

The funny thing is, she does not even look slutty, the other one who didnt fuck anyone looks much more bitchy, but well, just my opinion.

(10-10-2016 12:32 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

How good is this dude's game?

The one thing is that they are both Russian, so this is a good connection right from the beginning plus same age etc.
But I cannot judge his game very well. He is a humorous guy thou, he knows how to make a girl laugh, easily. This is a big plus.

Are you 100% sure they actually banged?
He told me so the next day (despite the fact that I didnt ask lol), but I cant be 100% sure, some guys like to exaggerate. Maybe it was just a quick BJ )))
It was a clean and big Bedroom with those small white towels etc. not too unpleasant like in most of other Clubs.
Talking about the specific evening, J played the beta provider game while S the bad boy alpha game, but it can vary in other evenings, it also depends on the mood of the moment, motivation etc.

[TripleG]

(10-10-2016 01:32 PM)AkiKinnunen Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 12:32 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

What a complicated peace of reading material. J, S etc.... Just give them imaginary names so we don't have to memorize a list of letters next time

Kinda lazy, my bad

(10-10-2016 12:32 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

But yes easy girls exist everywhere (thanks god). It depends on how strong is the shaming culture in a certain country and how well they are hiding.

The funny thing is, she does not even look slutty, the other one who didnt fuck anyone looks much more bitchy, but well, just my opinion.

(10-10-2016 12:32 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

How good is this dude's game?

The one thing is that they are both Russian, so this is a good connection right from the beginning plus same age etc.
But I cannot judge his game very well. He is a humorous guy thou, he knows how to make a girl laugh, easily. This is a big plus.

Are you 100% sure they actually banged?
He told me so the next day (despite the fact that I didnt ask lol), but I cant be 100% sure, some guys like to exaggerate. Maybe it was just a quick BJ )))
It was a clean and big Bedroom with those small white towels etc. not too unpleasant like in most of other Clubs.
Talking about the specific evening, J played the beta provider game while S the bad boy alpha game, but it can vary in other evenings, it also depends on the mood of the moment, motivation etc.

@AkiKinnunen, I'm not surprised. LMR is a bit of a myth. Let's not forget S was a local Russian guy, so immediately girl C did not view him as a provider (for example the British guy) whom she could use for drinks, expensive dates, etc. and thus there was no point in her wasting his/her time. She also knew that since he is a local guy that most likely he does not have a shortage of girls and if not her he may be going home with someone else that night. She was probably horny and him being able to smooth talk in Russian certainly helped.

Btw, here's a recent story that happened to me. I did not get a bang but considering that from start to finish this took no more than 10 minutes it is unusual nevertheless and disapproves the theory of LMR.
From experience I'd say Belorussian girls tend to be even more conservative than Russians, resulting in multiple shit tests and long dates are needed but being at the right time/right place, having luck, looking sharp (suited) and knowing what and how to say it can work for anyone.
I was visiting Vilnius this past July and stopped by a local watering hole called Cactus Bar. I didn't have any expectations and was just shooting the breeze with the female bartender about life in USA and this 2 set of girls next to me overheard me talk. In my head I had been thinking of approaching them but being fully sober did not have the guts to do it yet. They opened me up and of course asked what I was doing there in bad English. Come to find they were Belorussian students, early 20s and both I would say solid 7's. Once they learned I spoke good Russian it was on. 10 minutes after I started talking to them one of them asked me "if i wanted to go to the bathroom". I did not get the hint but followed. The Belarus girl dragged me by the hand and told me she had "problems" with the zipper. As I was trying to remove the dress (it was a unisex bathroom) a group of girls barged in. I panicked and left. After that she came out and had a shocked look that I was so easily "frightened". I never did manage to hang out with her as I had an appointment with a friend later that night but still keep in touch.

[Virtus]

If you read Russian and interested in Kryshesnos you may want to look at http://www.psychologos.ru/articles/view/bredogenerator

[Vinny]

(10-10-2016 02:57 PM)Virtus Wrote:  

If you read Russian and interested in Kryshesnos you may want to look at http://www.psychologos.ru/articles/view/bredogenerator

Did I forget to mention bredogenerator in my initial sheet? What a miss.

It is a cool practice, but good on initial stages when you don't have enough to say.

I don't use it anyways. Does not suit my persona.

I much more prefer cold reading and personality tests. Way more DHVing.

[Vinny]

(10-10-2016 01:32 PM)AkiKinnunen Wrote:  

It was a clean and big Bedroom with those small white towels etc. not too unpleasant like in most of other Clubs.

By Bedroom do you mean Bathroom?

[AkiKinnunen]

(10-10-2016 04:19 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 01:32 PM)AkiKinnunen Wrote:  

It was a clean and big Bedroom with those small white towels etc. not too unpleasant like in most of other Clubs.

By Bedroom do you mean Bathroom?

Ha ha, yes

[AkiKinnunen]

(10-10-2016 01:16 PM)invictusiii Wrote:  

Lol. Man that was like reading one of the crazy word problems from back in grade school. Yeah crazy fast bangs can happen anywhere at anytime. Just need to keep an eye out for opportunity. It's more of an exception rather than a rule in my experience though.

For sure an exception. I never saw it before in Russia. But well, I guess it is a country that will always surprise one. It will never be boring here))

[Beirut]

Akiki a distinction must be made.

I always maintained that many girls who are labeled gold diggers often just want/would go for a fun time or a fun night out.

For the hot girls that often means going to the high end places because they wont feel comfortable or happy elsewhere. You wouldnt be happy in your local ghetto bar either.

The girl in your story was at what seems a top club, and she was drinking. Now in this case it was paid for by soemone else, but say youre alone and you met this girl somewhere and are taking her out. If you take her to a cheap coffee place maybe she wouldnt be in the same mood she was on that night.

Its not the money theyre often after but the experience that it provides them.

Plus of course they are after all women and emotional creatures and can be gamed in a 1000 different ways.

[AkiKinnunen]

(10-13-2016 08:36 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

If you take her to a cheap coffee place maybe she wouldnt be in the same mood she was on that night.

Yeah a coffee date rarely ends in such extreme escalation, specially in Russia, where SDLs are still tabu among many women.
Like someone already posted above, it was a window of opportunity (and as you correctly noted , yes, she drank, a lot) that my buddy knew how to handle for his benefit. He was at the right place at the right time.

[Beijong]

(08-04-2016 04:34 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Terrible dates are standard in the FSU. I had a weird one today. Took a girl for a walk on the river. She was dressed sexy in a see-through top a short tight shorts. She sexualized the convo talking about her perversions, so within minutes I started making out with her. She told me was married to a guy in Belgium but because she's living in Belarus she's free to do as she wishes. She said she was seeing an osteopath that recommended an hour of sex per day so I invited her up to my apartment. She was on the edge of accepting but said she needed to think about it.

We parted ways and within an hour of doing so she had sent me a pic of her in a changing room in this skin tight little dress. I said I see you don't like panties. Haven't heard from her since. Radio silent.

Had a similar experience with flowers. Broad tells me it's her birthday and she wants flowers. I show with nice flowers at the restaurant and she doesn't even look at them or say thank you. I was thinking, why the fuck did I even bring these?

I bought the nicest little bouquet of flowers from a little shop on the way to a first date with a girl in Novosibirsk. She told me (after the date) that they were awful flowers and never to bring her anything like those ever again.

It was my first time in Russia and I had heard about their bluntness, but sometimes it really surprised me just how honest they are about their feelings. They're also just as beautiful and just as wifely as I heard as well. Same girl was cooking for me and doing the dishes and folding things and.. omg she was great. But she had very expensive tastes and wanted me to pay for every single little thing.

[WashedUPVet]

(01-04-2017 01:40 PM)Beijong Wrote:  

(08-04-2016 04:34 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Terrible dates are standard in the FSU. I had a weird one today. Took a girl for a walk on the river. She was dressed sexy in a see-through top a short tight shorts. She sexualized the convo talking about her perversions, so within minutes I started making out with her. She told me was married to a guy in Belgium but because she's living in Belarus she's free to do as she wishes. She said she was seeing an osteopath that recommended an hour of sex per day so I invited her up to my apartment. She was on the edge of accepting but said she needed to think about it.

We parted ways and within an hour of doing so she had sent me a pic of her in a changing room in this skin tight little dress. I said I see you don't like panties. Haven't heard from her since. Radio silent.

Had a similar experience with flowers. Broad tells me it's her birthday and she wants flowers. I show with nice flowers at the restaurant and she doesn't even look at them or say thank you. I was thinking, why the fuck did I even bring these?

I bought the nicest little bouquet of flowers from a little shop on the way to a first date with a girl in Novosibirsk. She told me (after the date) that they were awful flowers and never to bring her anything like those ever again.

It was my first time in Russia and I had heard about their bluntness, but sometimes it really surprised me just how honest they are about their feelings. They're also just as beautiful and just as wifely as I heard as well. Same girl was cooking for me and doing the dishes and folding things and.. omg she was great. But she had very expensive tastes and wanted me to pay for every single little thing.

I remember you telling me this story after it happened and laughing. Russian girls are so blunt. In the end, I think it is helpful. I have had a hard time re adjusting to American pleasantries.