[HankMoody]

My relationships generally tend to fall into two categories...

1. Casual - we bang and sometimes we hang out or go places together. I see her a few times a month with relatively little drama. She looks good on my arm. Maintaining three at once is my max.

2. Dating - with the understanding that I'm not looking to get married or have kids, sometimes my relationships turn into mini-LTRs which are exclusive. This means she stays over at my house a few times a week, probably has a toothbrush here, and it's known around town that we're an item. She knows that if I found her fucking someone else, I'd drop her. These usually last on average for about 8 months.

Maybe I swallowed too hard on the red pill, but I have no real desire to get married. When I have a girlfriend, she's exclusive to me, and I'd get salty if another male came after her.

This is where shit has been getting weird...

There are a bunch of married couples in my neighborhood. You know, the type of people who have "couples night" where a bunch of boring people get together with other boring people to do boring things like watch movies or talk about the latest craft beer. I don't usually interact with these people because we have nothing in common.

However, what I've learned is that many of them - like way more than I could have ever imagined - are in "polyamorous" relationships. During the day, they hold themselves out as a traditional married couple, but they also have "discreet" fuck buddies and other relationships. I had no idea how common this was for young married couples.

It confuses the shit out of me on many levels...

1. Why get married when you can easily have casual dating relationships and mini-LTRs?

2. What kind of man would let his wife, or even his girlfriend, have sexual relationships with other men and be cool with it?

3. What kind of man would let his woman be seen around town with other men?

It appears to me that the women like the stability and appearance of having a husband, but can't actually get off the cock carousel. So they then convince their husbands that this is how modern relationships work, sex positive, feminism, etc. Another observation - all the guys in these relationships are very liberal.

My opinion on this is that 1) men are becoming more feminine and are afraid to say "no" to their women and to other men trying to fuck their woman; and 2) we live in a society where increasingly everyone feels they should be able to do whatever they want to do.

Polyamory is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

[Ensam]

Yeah, seems super common. I blame pseudoscience like Sex at Dawn and the Ethical Slut for legitimizing it. Christopher Ryan (author of Sex at Dawn) is just shy of being a straight up fraud. He got his Ph.D. from literally one of the least regarded programs in the country.

It seems like a universally bad idea for men. If you're a guy who can pull easily enough to take advantage of it then why they fuck would you want to be locked down at all? On the other hand if you can't reliably get laid then you're just signing up for lonely nights while your chick goes out and fucks other dudes. It seems like the ultimate failure of 'Oneitus'.

[HankMoody]

(04-10-2016 01:24 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

Yeah, seems super common. I blame pseudoscience like Sex at Dawn and the Ethical Slut for legitimizing it. Christopher Ryan (author of Sex at Dawn) is just shy of being a straight up fraud. He got his Ph.D. from literally one of the least regarded programs in the country.

It seems like a universally bad idea for men. If you're a guy who can pull easily enough to take advantage of it then why they fuck would you want to be locked down at all? On the other hand if you can't reliably get laid then you're just signing up for lonely nights while your chick goes out and fucks other dudes. It seems like the ultimate failure of 'Oneitus'.

"Sure dear, I'd be happy to share my house, money, and everything else with you 50/50 while you run around and fuck tattoo artists, bartenders, and DJs. Just make sure to wear a condom or let him unload on your face! I'll be sitting at home doing the laundry and making you dinner!"

It makes perfect sense for a woman on some level - she gets to keep a beta male at home for emotional and financial support, while having the freedom to run around and fuck degenerates like myself.

Perhaps I spend too much time on the RVF, but I cannot believe any self respecting male is pathetic enough to engage in polyamory. Then I learn like half my fucking neighborhood is into it.

[churros]

This guy seems to have dedicated his life to normalising polyamory.

[General Stalin]

Quote:

When did polyamory become a thing?

When Generation Y became adults.

This is the first generation to be raised in almost 50/50 broken homes. Single parent homes, or in best case scenario, mother and father together but both working full time constantly at odds with eachother and lacking in good parenting. Divorce, adultery, fighting, helicopter parenting or no parenting at all, etc.

It's all a part of the perfect storm of extreme progressivism sweeping mainstream culture over the past couple decades. Men are effeminate while women are more masculine. Gender roles and traditional family values have been abolished. You get the picture.

[ThundercockVeritas]

I'd say polyamory is a form of carousel riding in the open that does not favor men. From what I've been able to determine in my extremely limited experience and conversations with former poly chicks, most of these poly relationships, break down at some point. But so do other kinds of relationships.

[HankMoody]

(04-10-2016 01:36 PM)churros Wrote:  

This guy seems to have dedicated his life to normalising polyamory.

I don't have a problem with homosexuals, but I do think legalizing gay marriage has opened the door for accepting every sort of sexual deviant behavior on the planet.

It went from accepting gay marriage, to accepting men using women's bathrooms, polyamory, and pediophila.

[Rhyme or Reason]

[Guriko]

(04-10-2016 01:50 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

I don't have a problem with homosexuals, but I do think legalizing gay marriage has opened the door for accepting every sort of sexual deviant behavior on the planet.

It went from accepting gay marriage, to accepting men using women's bathrooms, polyamory, and pediophila.

And people said the slippery slope crowd is crazy. Things like these simply are not sustainable in the long run. Fun in the short term? Sure. But you need stability at the core of every civilization in order for it to function.

[youngblazer]

Look at it from the perspective of a guy who has been married for 10 years and has a couple kids. No matter how good his wife has kept herself, she is still old pussy that is no longer that exciting to him. And likewise, he isn't really that exciting to her either. People get sick of each other. But they don't divorce because they have kids/a house, etc.

But there's other people out there who think the wife is hot as fuck, and other women who are turned on by the husband. Honestly, the husband is probably just happy to get away from the wife for a few hours, the fact that she's taking dick from someone else doesn't bother him. And though the husband isn't a pussy-chaser, he has the option to sample some new young pussy and that energizes him.

And it's even possible that if the husband is fucking other chicks, the wife is actually turned on by this because as we all know, women tend to want men that other women find attractive.

[Vinny]

Perfect example of "decline of the west". If you read more about Roman Empire and why it fell it seems just so similar to what is happening now.

[Ice]

Yeah when you have been married for 5 years and have had sex 1000 times I think for many people it's not a problem having another guy fuck their wife once in a while. And the guy can fuck other girls too, or hire an escort or whatever. I don't see a problem with it. Some people just get tired of fucking the same person for years, that's only natural. But if they have a deep connection and want to stay together long term, maybe have a family, why not just being open about fucking other people. For me that makes sense.

[WestIndianArchie]

Realistically
- men have been cheating on their wives since the age of dawn
- women have been getting some extracurricular activities for the same amount of time
- turning a blind eye to 'indiscretions' is basically how the world is.

And then the 90's happened.

So the shift has been from keeping things under wraps to letting everyone in the world know.

So not the 90's per se, but rather the internet. Now pervs...sorry people with expanded notions of what life can be like were able to communicate.

What also became widespread and codified in the 90's?

Game

In the form of pick up.

Game is everywhere and has been so since we crawled out of the primordial ooze. A lot of square guys, the ones wishing for things to be like the 50's - even when the 50's weren't the 50's - they found the cheat codes, and were able to deprogram themselves.

I"d say most of the people exposed to any of this would rather stick to the blue pill, and stay "safe".

They are the dinosaurs, and the asteroid already hit the planet.

WIA

[samsamsam]

I think it has to do with society's attitude of you never have to sacrifice or suffer. I remember seeing something on HBO and it was mainly about younger people in this multiple lover household. Which makes sense to me, because this generation has the strongest sense of entitlement and the belief that you should never feel bad. And when social media teaches women how thirsty guys really are, most women can just say "these are my terms."

[Deepdiver]

The Neomasculine Code:

1. Live your Mission, focus on and succeed at it.

2. Take a young woman as your own "The secret of a long life is to take a young wife" ... Cary Grant. Screen her for DNA diseases and always DNA test any offspring to ensure they are in fact yours.

3. Never tolerate poly-sexcapades in your woman of any kind that could easily introduce 26+ debilitating or deadly STDs into your home, not to mention a negative vortex of scumbags into your life. Use "wiseguy" game so that she understands the consequences. Is it better to be loved or feared - a man of wisdom knows the answer is BOTH according to the necessity of the case. Teach her to shoot in self-defense if you are not around and to see your mastery and skills at arms. She will gain deeply ingrained psychological respect for you and fear betraying you.

4. Build your legacy and enjoy your life with your woman who will always be younger and sexy to you. Keep her procreating and caring for your kids as her sacred duty... no Mommy drama wine night's with the neighborhood polysluts giving her temptation and unacceptable ideas or behaviors. If you have to move to a part of the country where the social pressure is to raise a strong traditional family and not poisoned by PolyLGBTQisms.

5. Set up your legacy in Trusts for your kids first and then your wife - never let her get control of your money - because once you pass away she will be a young merry widow cougar and naturally want a few boy toys but still be susceptible to fortune hunting players. They do not get to put their slimy paws on your legacy.

6. Make sure the trusts (half offshore outside of SJW corrupted US courts) have incentives for your kids to do what you want them to achieve and incentivizes your wife to be a good wife and grandmother. Make sure the trusts provide for any eventual grandchildren or great-grandchildren as well.

7. This is how a neomasculine man ensures his genetic line lives on.

[Saweeep]

I don't think it is a thing.

Sure, it's out in the open and more recognisable than ever before but commonplace? No.

[Easy_C]

It's always been that way to some extent. The portrayal of men's behavior in "Mad Men" isn't entirely fiction and there was quite a bit of fun being had. However I've also been told that it's gotten a lot more open. My opinion is that a lot of it has to do with the huge push for it in popular culture. Swinging, threesomes, BDSM lifestyles, etc have all been portrayed as cool rather than perverted and disgusting. Adding some glamour and taking away the shame will push a lot of people who would otherwise have just thought about doing those things into the lifestyle.

[mother]

(04-10-2016 03:57 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

I don't think it is a thing.

Sure, it's out in the open and more recognisable than ever before but commonplace? No.

I agree. The popularity is distorted by the media, it's PC, and those who dally in it, broadcast (pardon the pun) it. No more than 1 or 2%, even in the Millennial demo.

I can't blame the women, though. The fault lies with the men.

[mother]

(04-10-2016 03:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

The Neomasculine Code:

1. Live your Mission, focus on and succeed at it.

2. Take a young woman as your own "The secret of a long life is to take a young wife" ... Cary Grant. Screen her for DNA diseases and always DNA test any offspring to ensure they are in fact yours.

3. Never tolerate poly-sexcapades in your woman of any kind that could easily introduce 26+ debilitating or deadly STDs into your home, not to mention a negative vortex of scumbags into your life. Use "wiseguy" game so that she understands the consequences. Is it better to be loved or feared - a man of wisdom knows the answer is BOTH according to the necessity of the case. Teach her to shoot in self-defense if you are not around and to see your mastery and skills at arms. She will gain deeply ingrained psychological respect for you and fear betraying you.

4. Build your legacy and enjoy your life with your woman who will always be younger and sexy to you. Keep her procreating and caring for your kids as her sacred duty... no Mommy drama wine night's with the neighborhood polysluts giving her temptation and unacceptable ideas or behaviors. If you have to move to a part of the country where the social pressure is to raise a strong traditional family and not poisoned by PolyLGBTQisms.

5. Set up your legacy in Trusts for your kids first and then your wife - never let her get control of your money - because once you pass away she will be a young merry widow cougar and naturally want a few boy toys but still be susceptible to fortune hunting players. They do not get to put their slimy paws on your legacy.

6. Make sure the trusts (half offshore outside of SJW corrupted US courts) have incentives for your kids to do what you want them to achieve and incentivizes your wife to be a good wife and grandmother. Make sure the trusts provide for any eventual grandchildren or great-grandchildren as well.

7. This is how a neomasculine man ensures his genetic line lives on.

Did you write that for this thread?

I like that. Lately I've been finding myself thinking in dynastic and internationalist terms. I want my portrait hanging over the fireplace. And I don't want my descendants to be limited to the opportunities in US or vulnerable to exhaustion of the US.

IMHO, to your list I'd add finding a foreign woman. A woman with a different citizenship would give the children: a second citizenship, a better perspective of the world, more well rounded cultural and language skills, and a plan B for the family to relocate to, if necessary. And hopefully she would have been shielded from (and outright reject) this polyamory, and other PC, nonsense.

[General Stalin]

The increase in feminists and tinderellas flaunting their polyamory and penchant for "open relationships" certainly in-coincidentally correlates with the trend in the interest in cukoldery.

   

Women have perceptively more options while men have perceptively less. Also, a woman saying she is "polyamorous" is just a safe modern way of saying "I'm a slut."

[VforVlad]

Every girl I have seen that is Polynomarous looks like a Bernie Sanders supporting, Occupy wall street slut...with a hipster-ish looking, unkempt boyfriend.

I've brought up Poly relationships to a bunch of girls I have met or went out with, and all of them pretty much said that they would be too jealous to share their man and that it's not something they would do.

[Geomann180]

To me, Polyamory seems like something girls mostly do as they're more able to get and keep two simultaneous sexual partners than most men can (when comparing the average person, not the likes of someone on this board). Most women seemed terribly concerned with appearance and I think would tolerate such an arrangement (i.e. the other woman) if the man was discrete about it (that the 1st woman does not lose social status).

I think the girls do it for two reasons:

1) To snowflake and highlight how 'attractive' they are. This seems to be one of the ways the misguided notion that women are equal to men as a theory manifests in behavior, as a man who can keep two girlfriends simultaneously is probably attractive whereas a girl who can do this is probably dating one more loser than she was before the polyamory.

2) As a shit test to her boyfriend. I think most women, like men, are selfish and would rather not share, and I imagine grow more disgusted with the original boyfriend over time. I would bet that after a year or two, something breaks. Still, without scientific, or personal experience (thanks God), I couldn't pretend to be a real authority on that.

G

[Tex]

(04-10-2016 05:36 PM)VforVlad Wrote:  

Every girl I have seen that is Polynomarous looks like a Bernie Sanders supporting, Occupy wall street slut...with a hipster-ish looking, unkempt boyfriend.

I don't think is has anything to do with sexual satisfaction. They could just cheat or play the field like a slut. The girls who go after polyamory are the bitches that go the next step and try to philosophically justify their craving for constant, varied male attention. It's a need for serious attention.

And look how that turns out.

For women, dependence on male attention is as damaging as dependence on meth.

If a girl tries to use polyamory to legitimize the acceptability for getting smashed by multiple dudes at once, she's far fucking gone.

[HankMoody]

Every time I meet a guy who is "polyamorous" it's usually the same shit - college educated, liberal, doesn't lift weights, and has a wife that is bangable but nothing to write home about. The type of guy who just loves craft beers, and watching all the latest TV shows.

All I can think is "Wait... let me get this straight. Your wife bangs other dudes and you're cool with it? Do you sit in the corner, cry, and jerk off while it happens? You do know that monkeys jerk off watching alphas fuck the female monkeys, right? Would you be pissed if I fucked your wife so hard that the Earth began to shake? Then blew a big fat one right on her face as she demanded more?"

Meh, It doesn't matter because they usually label me a "douchebag" or a "bro" within 5 minutes of meeting me.

[Saweeep]

(04-10-2016 06:33 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

Every time I meet a guy who is "polyamorous" it's usually the same shit - college educated, liberal, doesn't lift weights, and has a wife that is bangable but nothing to write home about. The type of guy who just loves craft beers, and watching all the latest TV shows.

All I can think is "Wait... let me get this straight. Your wife bangs other dudes and you're cool with it? Do you sit in the corner, cry, and jerk off while it happens? You do know that monkeys jerk off watching alphas fuck the female monkeys, right? Would you be pissed if I fucked your wife so hard that the Earth began to shake? Then blew a big fat one right on her face as she demanded more?"

Meh, It doesn't matter because they usually label me a "douchebag" or a "bro" within 5 minutes of meeting me.

You meet these people regularly enough to have spotted common themes?

I wonder what kind of circles one would have to move in to not only encounter so many people like this, but who also happily divulge such information within the five minutes before labelling you a "bro/douchebag"?