[JacksonRev]

(02-16-2016 04:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

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But if you really believe what you're saying, I would be leaving the US ASAP and trying to set-up some off the grid lifestyle in Chile or elsewhere. I suppose you are sticking it out to see if Trump gets elected.

Nah, I don't believe in running away from my problems. Unless I could marry into a rich family in a safe country (say like Korea or something) I'd rather stay and fight.

If there is one thing I learned from multiple deployments it's this: War is opportunity.

There is no way to change your station in life faster, win or lose, than war.

[Blaster]

(02-08-2016 02:41 PM)8ball Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:46 PM)Hades Wrote:  

Compare that to any other candidate, and your best case scenario is what is happening in Europe right now, only on a somewhat smaller scale, along with shitloads of H1B visa holders and a collapse of STEM jobs. No thanks.

Anyone in tech would be stupid not to vote for Trump, his HB1 visa 100 000$ minimum is enough for the entire silicon valley to vote Trump. They are fucking idiots if they can't see that. He does need to talk about it more though, i understand the primaries are just beginning and its in states that are not very affected by that program, once the national campaign really gets under way, he should mention it on every fucking speech.

Silicon Valley considers itself the international center of world technology, though. It's absolutely full of people who see barriers to immigration as nothing more than barriers to technological advancement. Cream-of-the-crop STEM workers at companies like Google are paid very well and work in lavish environments. They're not worried about marginal competition and they very much value their talented multicultural co-workers. Then there are the ambitious young entrepreneurs taking risks in the hopes of vaulting themselves into the ranks of global elite. They don't care about H1B salary competition because they view salary as something that just pays for rent and ramen until they make their millions cashing in stock options. In fact, they're likely to view H1B as not permissive enough, since it gets in the way of hiring the best talent from all over the world to crush the competing startup across the street.

I am certainly willing to accept I'm wrong about my assessment and certainly there are Trump supporters out there. While SV is heavily liberal and SJW, it's also heavily male. But my guess is that a majority of Silicon Valley will vote pro-immigration.

[Samseau]

I am going to continue to pour cold water on this forum because I want the men here to be ready if Trump loses.

I continue to see rampant denial from otherwise intelligent men:

(03-19-2016 06:42 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(03-19-2016 02:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

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Do not think of a HAG victory, should it happen, as a tragedy. It would not be a tragedy; it would be, merely, the resumption of regular programming, it would be what we could have always reasonably expected to happen. It would mean that certain social trends will have quite a while longer to go before they exhaust themselves and are reversed or altered in the face of FACTS. No, it will not mean "civil war", "societal collapse", or any of those things.

This is completely out of touch. A Hillary win, a woman who is a criminal herself, is going to give citizenship to millions of people who broke the law, and import millions of rapefugees who also will break the law.

What incentive, with such flagrant disrespect of the law, on top of a collapsing economy, will there be to follow the law for millions upon millions of American citizens? None. And Hillary will pull the Merkel by intruding upon our liberties to hunt down "White supremacism," and cops will be ordered to terrorize normal citizens which only intensifies more unrest. Eventually cops will be murdered for carrying out Hillary's insane orders, and then the cops will revolt and stop following orders as well. Normal citizens will start robbing banks, military compounds for guns, killing federal workers, and it will occur all over the USA.

It will be de facto anarchy and civil war, because you cannot run a government that does not respect law and order. It will be rule by fiat and force, something that cannot sustain itself against a revolting population. Moreover, a Hillary win will not carry any legitimacy because most revolters will believe that illegal immigrants were given a vote.

A Hillary win is the beginning of the end of America, guaranteed.

None of that will happen. There will be no "millions" of "refugees" coming here, there will not be a hunt for "white supremacists", there will be no revolts, anarchy or civil war, the economy is not "collapsing" and is not about to "collapse". These are just 'sphere fairy tales, the flip side of SJW fairy tales about Trump's fascist internment camps for Muslims and Mexicans or whatever other atrocities they imagine will be perpetrated in an unimaginably sinister Trumpland. Two sides of the same bad penny.

What will happen under a HAG presidency is exactly what I said: the continuation of the current business as usual. Certain negative societal trends -- particularly everything having to do with feminism and its implications for the day-to-day lives of normal men -- will continue and worsen. More of the worst boomer and Xer SJW Year Zero cadres will gain access to power, and use it to make our lives more unpleasant in various ways; in some contexts, such as sexual assault laws, false rape accusations, and the witch hunts on college campuses, they will use it for outright evil. How long that trend will last is unknown and unknowable -- it will not last forever, but it may well have the better part of a decade still to run.

Like I said, the continuation of business as usual would be what we should have expected all along. A Trump victory would be the real surprise -- a stunning rebuke to a cultural class whose ascendance so far has gone completely unchecked. It is never right to count on such amazing reversals -- they should be welcomed and embraced if they do happen, but the baseline expectation should always be that they will not. The fulfillment of one's baseline expectation is no tragedy -- it simply means that you get up the next morning and go to what you imagine to be your "dead end job", instead of having won the lottery. Men always live with the tender hopes and dreams of sudden and complete change, but reality is a Monday morning with the HAG holding court, cackling and grinning from ear to ear. Yet life goes on just the same.

The level of denial from Oz and others reminds me of posters who said Obama wasn't a feminist. Really now, is it that hard to read Shillary's campaign promises?

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/im...on-reform/

Step 1: Total Amnesty for now and anyone who shows up in the future.

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Hillary will:

Enact comprehensive immigration reform to create a pathway to citizenship, keep families together, and enable millions of workers to come out of the shadows.

End family detention and close private immigrant detention centers.

Defend President Obama’s executive actions to provide deportation relief for DREAMers and parents of Americans and lawful residents, and extend those actions to additional persons with sympathetic cases if Congress refuses to act.

Step 2: Bring in millions of rapeugees:

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Conduct humane, targeted immigration enforcement. Hillary believes immigration enforcement must be humane, targeted, and effective. She will focus enforcement resources on detaining and deporting those individuals who pose a violent threat to public safety, and work to ensure refugees who seek asylum in the U.S. have a fair chance to tell their stories.

Don't you LOVE those liberal euphemisms? Let's see what kind of stories rapefugees are sharing with Germany:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer...GfjpzjOS1Q

Click on that link if you dare. It's just from 2016 alone, and only represents a fraction of the total rapes, robberies, molestations, assaults, and home invasions. I can't wait for that story to be shared with America!

And of course, with Citizenship On Demand, these wonderful new neighbors will be here to stay.

Hillary is one of the most evil human beings in America, and represents the total abolishment of American law. She will lead to the breakdown of order in the USA before she is out of office because ordinary Americans will not see a point in paying taxes to a government that funds their own destruction. They will rebel and people will either stop working, stop paying taxes, or turn to a life of crime altogether. We will see the share of tax paying citizens drop to less than 1/3.

Our state will not go bankrupt as long as we have our third-world slave labor taking our confetti dollars, but due to the current depression within the USA that will only worsen with Hillary, the USA will be printing more and more cash to pay for its debts which will eventually cause hyperinflation in the third-world that will spread to the USA, which is the final endgame before a complete breakdown of the state.

You can follow the USA's depression in real-time by monitoring the USA's M2 Money Velocity.

[Liberty Sea]

"Still, there’s no denying that many blacks share the same anxieties as many whites about the wave of illegal immigration flooding our Southern border—a sense that what’s happening now is fundamentally different from what has gone on before. Not all these fears are irrational. The number of immigrants added to the labor force every year is of a magnitude not seen in this country for over a century. If this huge influx of mostly low-skill workers provides some benefits to the economy as a whole—especially by keeping our workforce young, in contrast to an increasingly geriatric Europe and Japan—it also threatens to depress further the wages of blue-collar Americans and put strains on an already overburdened safety net. Other fears of native-born Americans are disturbingly familiar, echoing the xenophobia once directed at Italians, Irish, and Slavs fresh off the boat—fears that Latinos are inherently too different, in culture and in temperament, to assimilate fully into the American way of life; fears that, with the demographic changes now taking place, Latinos will wrest control away from those accustomed to wielding political power.

For most Americans, though, concerns over illegal immigration go deeper than worries about economic displacement and are more subtle than simple racism. In the past, immigration occurred on America’s terms; the welcome mat could be extended selectively, on the basis of the immigrant’s skills or color or the needs of industry. The laborer, whether Chinese or Russian or Greek, found himself a stranger in a strange land, severed from his home country, subject to often harsh constraints, forced to adapt to rules not of his own making.

Today it seems those terms no longer apply. Immigrants are entering as a result of a porous border rather than any systematic government policy; Mexico’s proximity, as well as the desperate poverty of so many of its people, suggests the possibility that border crossing cannot even be slowed, much less stopped. Satellites, calling cards, and wire transfers, as well as the sheer size of the burgeoning Latino market, make it easier for today’s immigrant to maintain linguistic and cultural ties to the land of his or her birth (the Spanish-language Univision now boasts the highest-rated newscast in Chicago). Native-born Americans suspect that it is they, and not the immigrant, who are being forced to adapt. In this way, the immigration debate comes to signify not a loss of jobs but a loss of sovereignty, just one more example—like September 11, avian flu, computer viruses, and factories moving to China—that America seems unable to control its own destiny.

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And if I’m honest with myself, I must admit that I’m not entirely immune to such nativist sentiments. When I see Mexican flags waved at proimmigration demonstrations, I sometimes feel a flush of patriotic resentment. When I’m forced to use a translator to communicate with the guy fixing my car, I feel a certain frustration."





- Barrack Obama, The Audacity of Hope.

[Samseau]

If anyone but Trump you can expect to see a lot more of this:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...-year-old/

Cops: Illegal Immigrant Arrested for Raping, Impregnating 12-Year-Old in TX

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An illegal immigrant has been arrested and charged with raping and impregnating a 12-year-old Texas girl, authorities say.

Prosecutors charged that in 2015 an illegal immigrant, Jose Alejandro Najarro, tried to convince his 12-year-old victim to have sex with him, but she refused. Refusing to take “no” for an answer, the suspect allegedly raped her at his home in Kyle, Texas.

Several months later, the girl was found to be pregnant and an investigation into her predicament was begun at that time. The girl told authorities she only had sex one time and that was with the suspect.

The child also said Najarro pursued her for months after their first encounter — even offering her money at one point — but she steadfastly refused to go back to his home.

Najarro has been charged with aggravated sexual assault of a child and was booked into the Hays County jail on March 24. He has also been placed on an immigration detainer.

[blacknwhitespade]

I wish more middle-class Mexicans and South Americans would come to the US to counter the provincial rednecks. Am I a bad person if I propose the USA cut a deal with Mexico to sell illegals in exchange for telenovela and weather channel girls?