Our strong American recovery:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-05...r-recovery





Service jobs = bubble jobs. They will disappear overnight once shit hits the fan.

Donald J Trump has made some serious promises to strong, dangerous and patriotic Americans who will fight to the death for America if he does the right things and the things he has promised... to lie and stab us in the back would be an unthinkable outrage and it is not in Mr. Trumps nature to betray the country and people he loves.

Quote: (02-05-2016 01:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2016 01:12 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2016 12:57 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  

I don't think it will be as bad as Samseau suggests, even if the worst of the worst are elected, Bernie/Hillary. I think America will see Europe in 2016 and begin to wise up. We may not keep out many of the hispanics but we won't be bringing in many refugees from the Middle East. Personally, I'd rather live among middle class hispanics than whites or blacks, too bad the USA imports the poorest of the poor hispanics.

I do think it would be smart for everybody here to come up with a 5-10 year plan. Be ready to be mobile in 5 or 10 years. You won't need a fortune and you don't need to be Simon Black with 50 passports. But come up with an amount of money you need to live for a while. I would also try to get some passive income online or have a few rental homes that cashflow with local management. I don't think it will be the end in 5 years but the environment might not be one you enjoy living in, though I think 10 and most likely 20 years is a more accurate timeframe for a complete culture change. I don't think the USA will be recognizable in 20 years.

Personally, I love South America and that is probably where I will reside(spent most of the last few years here). Certain 3rd tier cities are perfect tranquil places where people are top notch. Spanish and Portuguese are very easy languages to learn as well. Culture is not all that different and girls are sexy in many of these cities. Its not hard to live a pretty decent life for 1,000-1200 a month.

Damn dude, are you a mind reader? This is pretty much my plan and mindset. Get passive income streams going, 5-10 year window, LA/Spain for easy language/cheap cost/sexy women/family oriented culture. I don't think the US is coming to an end in the near future but living here and trying to start a family (especially if Hillary gets elected) is going to be even more of a nightmare. Hillary (and probably Bernie too) will push the worst aspects of militant feminist/politically correct beliefs into law where pretty much being a man and existing is likely to be a crime.

If the tide turns (Trump getting elected being a damn good start), then consider staying.

Passive income streams are mostly a pipedream. Once the American economy dries up (it's not going to last more than 5 years at current rates), American's won't be buying shit online and you'll have zero income in a foreign culture. Good luck surviving.

The guys who say the decline will happen in 20 years from now are the same ones who said back in 2008 that Obama wouldn't be so bad, the American economy will have recovered, people would start having more kids, feminism would become less and less acceptable, etc.

The only thing left to do is prepare for war. Anything else is a waste of time.

There are passive or semi-passive incomes that aren't based on selling stuff online. Real estate is a big one.

There are major structural issues within the modern economy that no one is really addressing in the political sphere but will have to soon. The US and the modern economy is or is about to enter a post-scarcity economy where we simply don't have enough jobs for everyone to make a decent living; excluding an industrial revolution like event occurring before then. Trump is likely to buy us a few generations in time since reducing the labor pool (kicking out illegals), lowering taxes (more money for people to spend), and bringing jobs back to the US will do wonders for the economy. Obviously, this would be be my preferred outcome.

If he isn't elected, things will likely go two ways:

1. There will be a lot of poor people, a small middle class, and the wealthy. Something you see in a lot of Latin American countries for instance and seeing the formation of right now in the US with crony capitalism, open borders, and anti-American business practices. If a cuck gets elected, this is likely what we will get. More of the same.

Or

2. We will get a government that will impose Scandinavian level socialism and usher in guaranteed incomes and/or massive welfare programs to keep a large part of the population from suffering. Bernie would do just that if given free reign. Hillary could go either way with a mix of both cuck/socialist policies.

In all three above potential scenarios (Trump, a cuck, a democrat), a lot of folks will still be eating, needing a place to live, and still buying luxury items of some variety. To what extent depends but the US economy just stopping and falling into complete chaos is extremely unlikely. I don't buy into the doom and gloom that is being suggested. In all three above scenarios, there are opportunities for guys like us to make money in some capacity.

Now, there is likely going to be strife, struggle, and uncomfortable living for some (especially for the blue pill beta male) but I'm not convince the US overall (even if Hillary gets elected) will go down the tubes completely in the near future. Even during the depression, there were people still making money and building wealth. The depression lasted around a decade but the US survived and went on to kick ass eventually. Shitty time period for many but not for everyone.

A democrat getting elected (especially Hillary) will be a dark chapter for America and the damage she will do will be severe on many fronts. But the US as a country has seen and been through worse than what's on the possible horizon. It might take some time to recover, things might different, but the US will survive economically speaking in some capacity. Culturally for what many guys here value: who knows.

Since I assume the US economy isn't going to implode entirely and suddenly (more likely to see a slow degrade over a period of decades or even maybe centuries), my personal emphasis for the next 5-25 years is on an ideal cultural and legal environment where being a man isn't a crime, hot women reside, family life is valued, and where the USD goes the furthest. The US could be that place again; much higher odds if Trump is elected. We shall see.

But if the USD crumbles into being virtually worthless all of sudden in even 2nd/3rd world countries and things have truly fallen apart, there are ways to deal and plan for that extremely unlikely scenario: stocking up on practical knowledge, food, weapons, medical supplies, precious metals.

Planning for the apocalypse is one thing but living for its potential arrival is another matter altogether and not a healthy way to to go through life in my opinion. But to each and their own.

Good Trump joke I read earlier:

How does Donald Trump plan on deporting 12 million illegal immigrants?

Juan by Juan.

Quote: (02-05-2016 03:45 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2016 01:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2016 01:12 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2016 12:57 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  

I don't think it will be as bad as Samseau suggests, even if the worst of the worst are elected, Bernie/Hillary. I think America will see Europe in 2016 and begin to wise up. We may not keep out many of the hispanics but we won't be bringing in many refugees from the Middle East. Personally, I'd rather live among middle class hispanics than whites or blacks, too bad the USA imports the poorest of the poor hispanics.

I do think it would be smart for everybody here to come up with a 5-10 year plan. Be ready to be mobile in 5 or 10 years. You won't need a fortune and you don't need to be Simon Black with 50 passports. But come up with an amount of money you need to live for a while. I would also try to get some passive income online or have a few rental homes that cashflow with local management. I don't think it will be the end in 5 years but the environment might not be one you enjoy living in, though I think 10 and most likely 20 years is a more accurate timeframe for a complete culture change. I don't think the USA will be recognizable in 20 years.

Personally, I love South America and that is probably where I will reside(spent most of the last few years here). Certain 3rd tier cities are perfect tranquil places where people are top notch. Spanish and Portuguese are very easy languages to learn as well. Culture is not all that different and girls are sexy in many of these cities. Its not hard to live a pretty decent life for 1,000-1200 a month.

Damn dude, are you a mind reader? This is pretty much my plan and mindset. Get passive income streams going, 5-10 year window, LA/Spain for easy language/cheap cost/sexy women/family oriented culture. I don't think the US is coming to an end in the near future but living here and trying to start a family (especially if Hillary gets elected) is going to be even more of a nightmare. Hillary (and probably Bernie too) will push the worst aspects of militant feminist/politically correct beliefs into law where pretty much being a man and existing is likely to be a crime.

If the tide turns (Trump getting elected being a damn good start), then consider staying.

Passive income streams are mostly a pipedream. Once the American economy dries up (it's not going to last more than 5 years at current rates), American's won't be buying shit online and you'll have zero income in a foreign culture. Good luck surviving.

The guys who say the decline will happen in 20 years from now are the same ones who said back in 2008 that Obama wouldn't be so bad, the American economy will have recovered, people would start having more kids, feminism would become less and less acceptable, etc.

The only thing left to do is prepare for war. Anything else is a waste of time.

There are passive or semi-passive incomes that aren't based on selling stuff online. Real estate is a big one.

There are major structural issues within the modern economy that no one is really addressing in the political sphere but will have to soon. The US and the modern economy is or is about to enter a post-scarcity economy where we simply don't have enough jobs for everyone to make a decent living; excluding an industrial revolution like event occurring before then. Trump is likely to buy us a few generations in time since reducing the labor pool (kicking out illegals), lowering taxes (more money for people to spend), and bringing jobs back to the US will do wonders for the economy. Obviously, this would be be my preferred outcome.

If he isn't elected, things will likely go two ways:

1. There will be a lot of poor people, a small middle class, and the wealthy. Something you see in a lot of Latin American countries for instance and seeing the formation of right now in the US with crony capitalism, open borders, and anti-American business practices. If a cuck gets elected, this is likely what we will get. More of the same.

Or

2. We will get a government that will impose Scandinavian level socialism and usher in guaranteed incomes and/or massive welfare programs to keep a large part of the population from suffering. Bernie would do just that if given free reign. Hillary could go either way with a mix of both cuck/socialist policies.

In all three above potential scenarios (Trump, a cuck, a democrat), a lot of folks will still be eating, needing a place to live, and still buying luxury items of some variety. To what extent depends but the US economy just stopping and falling into complete chaos is extremely unlikely. I don't buy into the doom and gloom that is being suggested. In all three above scenarios, there are opportunities for guys like us to make money in some capacity.

Sorry man, but this is nonsense. If making a passive income in shit conditions is so easy, why aren't guys making bank selling online shit to people in Brazil? If America is becoming a Brazil (or worse), then why aren't people figuring out how to thrive in the Brazilian economy and travel to other locations?

Time to accept reality. Denial does nobody any good. For example, this is denial:

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Now, there is likely going to be strife, struggle, and uncomfortable living for some (especially for the blue pill beta male) but I'm not convince the US overall (even if Hillary gets elected) will go down the tubes completely in the near future. Even during the depression, there were people still making money and building wealth. The depression lasted around a decade but the US survived and went on to kick ass eventually. Shitty time period for many but not for everyone.

Since I assume the US economy isn't going to implode entirely and suddenly (more likely to see a slow degrade over a period of decades or even maybe centuries), my personal emphasis for the next 5-25 years is on an ideal cultural and legal environment where being a man isn't a crime, hot women reside, family life is valued, and where the USD goes the furthest. The US could be that place again; much higher odds if Trump is elected.

Dude, during the last depression things were so bad that tens of thousands of soldiers marched on Washington DC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

Now, imagine the same thing this time, except:

- The dollar has been hyperinflated into trash
- There are tens of millions of violent immigrants, including ISLAM, a group of people who revel in death and show no mercy, rampaging through cities raping and pillaging
- The government is more interested in policing citizens than actual criminals

Guess what happens when that same army marches on Washington DC this time around? You think it's going to be resolved peacefully? You're joking.

The only reason America managed to get out of the last Depression was WW2. We were the victors and we collected the spoils. But now all of America's post-WW2 wealth has been pissed away, and America is back to the same starting point they were at before WW2 started 70 years ago. Ashes to ashes.

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But if the USD crumbles into being virtually worthless all of sudden in even 2nd/3rd world countries and things have truly fallen apart, there are ways to deal and plan for that extremely unlikely scenario: stocking up on practical knowledge, food, weapons, medical supplies, precious metals.

Planning for the apocalypse is one thing but living for its potential arrival is another matter altogether and not a healthy way to to go through life in my opinion. But to each and their own.

It's really not unlikely. Open a history book. Major giant country shattering wars every century for the last 20 centuries. Hyperinflation and bankruptcy also not very uncommon either.

Look at how fast things have declined since Obama took office.

When Obama came in, he was anti-gay marriage. The debt was 9 trillion. There was still some manufacturing left. Feminists did not control the media. The Middle East was under US control. Europe was safe and prosperous.

Fast forward 8 years:

- Gay marriage now law of the land
- 18 trillion debt going on 21 trillion (latest budget increased debt by 2 trillion)
- Less than 10% of jobs in America come from manufacturing
- 70% of jobs added last Janurary were minimum wage
- Middle East is in total chaos, ISIS is rising into a new caliphate that is ultra violent and makes Hitler look like a nice guy.
- Europe being invaded by millions of Muslims every year
- Feminists have so much media control this forum is now under attack people here are constantly afraid of getting doxxed.


Can you imagine what another 8 years of this bullshit will bring? We will all be fucked, my friend. This is decline on steroids. War is coming, because the vast majority of people have no other choice.

Samseau,

How would you prepare for this? Are you saying we should stay in the US and hunker down, as opposed to becoming location independent and making as much money as we can (whether it be through passive or active income, investments, remote jobs, brick and mortar businesses, etc)?

If things turn out exactly as you predict, there got to be opportunities to make money along the way (as long as we don't get killed). Rebuilding, spoils, currency exchange, etc. Every history book I've opened showed wars in every century like you say, but also thriving prosperity. Yin/Yang.

In my perspective, this strengthens the argument for location independence so we can get out of hairy shit and go to prosperous places. Or if you want to fight, get out of where you are and go to the front lines. But really, I suspect that the next world war will be fought in cyberspace... not without great casualties, though. Some hacker group could get into a heavily interconnected power plant or a water treatment plant, plant a virus or remotely shut everything down... I can think of worse scenarios than that, but I don't want to start fear mongering.

I'll continue my location independence goal as planned. And if I, as a foreigner who's racking up notches in a poosy paradise, get shot somewhere because the US goes belly up, maybe that's not such a bad way to go because the last way I want to die is to wither away for years in a hospital due to cancer. Now, running out of money in a foreign country on the other hand, that is what I'm worried about the most, to be honest.

Quote: (02-06-2016 10:42 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

Samseau,

How would you prepare for this? Are you saying we should stay in the US and hunker down, as opposed to becoming location independent and making as much money as we can (whether it be through passive or active income, investments, remote jobs, brick and mortar businesses, etc)?

If things turn out exactly as you predict, there got to be opportunities to make money along the way (as long as we don't get killed). Rebuilding, spoils, currency exchange, etc. Every history book I've opened showed wars in every century like you say, but also thriving prosperity. Yin/Yang.

In my perspective, this strengthens the argument for location independence so we can get out of hairy shit and go to prosperous places. Or if you want to fight, get out of where you are and go to the front lines. But really, I suspect that the next world war will be fought in cyberspace... not without great casualties, though. Some hacker group could get into a heavily interconnected power plant or a water treatment plant, plant a virus or remotely shut everything down... I can think of worse scenarios than that, but I don't want to start fear mongering.

I'll continue my location independence goal as planned. And if I, as a foreigner who's racking up notches in a poosy paradise, get shot somewhere because the US goes belly up, maybe that's not such a bad way to go because the last way I want to die is to wither away for years in a hospital due to cancer. Now, running out of money in a foreign country on the other hand, that is what I'm worried about the most, to be honest.

People will continue buy stuff and corporations will continue to buy stuff. Always.

This happens even in bad economic times.

You will be worst off relying on a company for a pay check if or when a downturn happens. It isn't any safer.

As always cashflow is king. Make sure you have enough cashflow to ride out the bad times. Keep expenses to a minimum and you will be just fine.

I just don't see location independent forms of income as being anti-fragile in times of great upheaval. The only things that make sense is finding a community you can trust, and preparing for war.

Quote: (02-06-2016 02:23 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I just don't see location independent forms of income as being anti-fragile in times of great upheaval. The only things that make sense is finding a community you can trust, and preparing for war.

Yeah, but that is pretty much too true to think about.

The El Dorado of Cyber Criminals is Money, Fullz Identity Theft IRS false Refunds, Emptying Small business banking accounts via wire transfers from hacked Comptrollers PCs, Massive Medicare Fraud all big money crimes whereas Credit Card Fraud is for hoodrat ex-con hacksters and chump change.

The El Dorado of Cyber Terrorists is Electronic Trading Markets manipulation to make massive gains via shorts or on options related to future events they intend to create and profit via the Chaos. The truly end times believers and caliphate Cyber Terrorists are obsessed with Nuclear Backpack weapons that can be smuggled into major political and money centers or both to create the post apocalyptic times envisioned in so many Hollywood directors imaginations.

So what do Neomen do to plan ahead for both self preservation and prosperity in the uncertain and potentially globally chaotic economic, political and military times ahead.

In a nation projected to become 500 Million people this century (USA you guessed it) due to the Globalists actions there will be demand to profit from the following outline steps:

1. Accumulate wealth by developing useful and profitable skills
Healing Pain and Suffering - MDs and DMDs etc.
Providing Secure Living Spaces - building or rehabbing flipping - SHTF related construction and services.
Providing Security to Businesses and Individuals both physical and virtual/cyber.
Providing needed services - Home improvements, automotive repair, automotive flipping always buy below wholesale and sell at wholesale and you will make money.
Providing a hedge against uncertainty and chaos - Financial Planning, Insurance Services, SHTF Planning and Support.

2. Diversify with an Urban and Rural lifestyle - Urban spaces to prosper from the critical mass of opportunity in the Urban areas and a Sustainable property by fairly remote lakes, rivers, and ocean with either farm/orchards or lumber products that will have value during times of extreme instability or outright war.

3. Put by enough tangible reserves if paper/electronic money collapses so you have something of tangible value to barter or trade with.

4. Integrate into a community of like minded Neomen to ally and bond for your common defense along with the women you have trained to be properly led and reject the Militant Malignant Marxist Feminist LGBTQ pro immigrant Anti American mindset.

Keep in mind that 2nd Amendment self defense capabilities are crucial in both Urban and Rural environments due to roving bands of urban gangs in Urban areas and Roving bands of thieves that will and do steal any thing of value (Theft of copper plumbing, pipes and wiring very common in Northern New England) that you have have salted away in your Rural redoubt.

Another option is a multi flag strategy as espoused by writers such as the Nomad Capitalist to areas or islands not likely to become embroiled in pre/post Apocalypse eventualities largely due to not being prime Nuclear Targets - Many Areas in Central and South America come to mind along with isolated Pacific locales - New Zealand and the Phils or similar come to mind.

I have a specific strategy and plan I am working on regarding the above realities or potentialities.

Even if those globalist shills only ship in "some" migrants, once they set up roots they have a supposed right to invite family members in for asylum.

Almost every Somali I've asked who has benefited from this program says that they got in without any direct relatives because the feds don't actually DNA test anybody, you could say that you had fifty brothers and sisters and be able to ship anybody in no problem. They often get in on a good word from friends or acquaintances. One of the guys was actually Sudanese and just claimed that he was Somalian. Any supposed "rules" or "vetting" that they try to convince ordinary Americans to be standard operating procedure is 100% lies.

VIDEO: ‘HOMELAND’ REFUGEE SCREENING COORDINATOR CAN’T ANSWER BASIC QUESTIONS ABOUT PROGRAM
“I’m sorry, I didn’t bring any of the refugee numbers with me."
http://www.infowars.com/video-homeland-refugee-screening...

You guys really think Trump won't do the same??

Quote: (02-07-2016 11:29 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

You guys really think Trump won't do the same??

Considering he's stated otherwise: building a wall, deporting illegals, deporting Muslims, banning Muslims.... No, I don't. Could he be lying? Possibly. But the odds of Trump being a liar is far lower than any other candidate because Trump has put so much of his rep on the line. For him to fail to deliver would ensure he is tossed out of office in 2020.

Quote: (02-05-2016 12:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Although the European migrant invasion gets a lot of press, what isn't talked about is how America's open borders have already done incredible damage to the USA and will be ratcheted up to 11 if anyone but Trump takes the next election.

Obama is America's Merkel.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/border...le/2582401

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In a shocking reversal of policy, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents are being told to release illegal immigrants and no longer order them to appear at deportation hearings, essentially a license to stay in the United States, a key agent testified Thursday.

What's more, the stand down order includes a requirement that the whereabouts of illegals released are not to be tracked.

"We might as well abolish our immigration laws altogether," suggested agent Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council.

Testifying on the two-year border surge of immigrant youths, Judd said the policy shift was prompted by Obama administration "embarrassment" that just over half of illegals ordered to appear in court actually do.

"The willful failure to show up for court appearances by persons that were arrested and released by the Border Patrol has become an extreme embarrassment for the Department of Homeland Security. It has been so embarrassing that DHS and the U.S. attorney's office has come up with a new policy," he testified before the immigration subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee.

The biggest change: Undocumented immigrants are no longer given a "notice to appear" order, because they simply ignore them. Judd said that border agents jokingly refer to the NTAs as "notices to disappear."

Notice, also, how all of the illegals who cross America's border are "youths"? They aren't youths. It's bullshit, just like the "youths" are bullshit in Europe. They are teenagers or young men.

In reality, they belong to large Mexican drug gangs that are taking over the SouthWestern part of the USA and are infiltrating as many cities as possible. It is likely that LA is totally compromised.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report...le/2582396

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Criminal networks with Latin American roots, such as MS-13 and the 18th Street gang, are using the administration's open-door policy at the border to slip in recruits that are causing a huge spike in murder and violence throughout the nation, according to an immigration expert.

Testifying Thursday at a House hearing on the border surge of young Latinos, the expert said, "Established gangs have been able to transfer an unknown number of experienced foot soldiers from Central America to help colonize new criminal territory in the United States."

Jessica M. Vaughan, the policy director for the Center for Immigration Studies, told the House Judiciary Committee's Immigration and Border Security subcommittee that "the tide of new young people, many of whom have already been exposed or involved in street gangs at home, has provided a huge pool of new recruits for the gangs here. Gangs such as MS-13 and 18th Street are enjoying a brutal revival in certain parts of the country and are establishing themselves in new places."

She added, "Violent transnational gangs such as MS-13 have taken full advantage of the Obama administration's welcome mat to swell their ranks here, contributing to a noticeable spike in gang violence in certain localities – with tragic results."

Vaughan offered dramatic details of the results of the "catch and release" policy employed by the administration as it grabs illegal immigrants crossing the border, then lets them go on a promise they will return for court hearings — which few make good on.

In the testimony provided in advance of the hearing to Secrets, she said:

— In Frederick County, Md., 20 miles from the White House, crime has jumped since about 265 illegal unaccompanied Central American minors were placed there. Gang fights in schools are now common and one of the older MS-13 "shot callers" was approved for President Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

— In Boston, cops just arrested 56 MS-13 gang members, many who arrived in the surge of younger Latinos. Some have been linked to teen murders in an initiation rite, trying to prove themselves worthy of full membership.

— In Loudoun, County, Va., home to Washington's Dulles International Airport, three unaccompanied minors who arrived in 2013 have been indicted for the gang-related murder of 17-year-old Danny Centeno Miranda, also an unaccompanied minor living with his uncle.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/border...le/2582404

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Drug cartels bring unaccompanied children to the Rio Grande valley to serve as diversions that distract border security officials from smugglers and drug traffickers, according to a Border Patrol union official.

"The unaccompanied minors could have walked right up to the Port of Entry and asked for asylum," Brandon Judd, National Border Patrol Council official, told a House Judiciary subcommittee panel in prepared testimony on Thursday. "Why did the cartels drive them to the middle of the desert and then have them cross over the Rio Grande only to surrender to the first Border Patrol agent they came across? The reason is that it completely tied up our manpower and allowed the cartels to smuggle whatever they wanted across our border."

America has been dealing with this bullshit for decades. But the real kicker is that America will be importing millions upon millions of Islamic "refugees" from the Middle East and Africa if anyone but Trump is put in power. Even Trump may turn out to be a phony, but it's the least likely outcome out of all candidates.

Regardless, if Trump loses, there won't be anywhere to run. The entire Western World will be compromised, and I strongly suspect that being a foreigner in most countries will be a one-way ticket to getting mugged or killed once there is no more all-powerful American state to protect you abroad.

This is definitely in reaction to the popularity of Trump and anti-globalist sentiment. Gov. Brown of California recently signed a bill that would essentially allow illegals the right to vote.

If you can't convince voters, import voters who will vote the way you want them to.

There is no doubt in my mind that the puppet masters not only exist but they loath the the people of the US.

This is an outright declaration of war.

The required reading for this thread should be Ann Coulter's Adios America.
Some quick excerpts:

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THE END OF AMERICA WON’T BE TELEVISED
THIS IS “GOODBYE,” AMERICA. ADIOS. PAALAM NA.
No further warning will be issued.
For forty years, the people have tried to tell politicians they want less immigration, but the politicians won’t listen. Every single elite group in America is aligned against the public—the media, ethnic activists, big campaign donors, Wall Street, multimillionaire farmers, and liberal “churches.” They all want mass immigration from the Third World to continue. Both political parties connive to grant illegal aliens citizenship and bring in millions more legally, and the media hide the evidence.

Their game plan is: Never allow an honest debate on immigration. On every other important subject, both sides can be heard. The media are against pro-lifers, but it’s possible to hear the pro-life side—from churches, pro-life organizations, and the alternative press. The mainstream media neurotically push global warming, but, on the other side, we have the entire conservative media, MIT scientists, and even some lefties, like the late Alexander Cockburn of the Nation magazine. There was no difficulty getting both sides of the debate on the Iraq War, Obamacare, the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, and any number of other hot-button issues.

Only in the case of immigration is the public systematically lied to from every major news outlet. The media lie about everything, but immigration constitutes their finest hour of collective lying. They know their ideas on the topic are not popular. How immigration is changing our country is a lot more important than most of the “news” we hear about endlessly. The media will pound away at Chris Christie’s “Bridgegate,” apocryphal fraternity rapes, the Augusta National Golf Club’s membership policies, “white privilege,” four Americans killed in Syria, and the sexual preferences of various Olympic athletes. But getting the truth about immigration is nearly impossible.

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After Reagan’s amnesty, no one talked about allowing new illegal aliens to stay. The only issue was: When are we going to get started on those promised employer sanctions and securing the southern border? Now we’re told we have to both allow new people in and amnesty the illegal immigrants already here. We’re getting the exact same arguments that were made for the old amnesty, but this time with attitude: Wait a minute—you’re not seriously telling me that you don’t want to give amnesty to the people already here? To which Republican politicians whimper: We hope we’re not inconveniencing you by not moving more quickly to forgive you for the laws you broke, illegal aliens.

I don’t mean to be obtuse, but why is it a crisis that illegal aliens are “living in the shadows”? I forget. We need to bring in more people who will drive down the wages of our fellow Americans because—why again? It is not a crisis for Americans that other people have come into their country illegally and now find it uncomfortable to be living here breaking the law. It’s supposed to be uncomfortable to break the law. Perhaps illegal aliens should have considered that before coming.

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The mass migration of the poorest of the poor to America is bad for the whole country, but it’s fantastic for Democrats. Ask yourself: Which party benefits from illiterate non-English speakers who have absolutely no idea what they’re voting for, but can be instructed to learn certain symbols? The foreign poor are prime Democratic constituents because they’re easily demagogued into tribal voting. A white person can vote Republican or Democratic without anyone saying to him, “HOW CAN YOU VOTE AGAINST YOUR RACE?” By contrast, every nonwhite person is required to vote Democrat. Republicans’ whispering sweet nothings in Hispanic ears isn’t going to change that. Voting Democratic is part of their cultural identity. Race loyalty trumps the melting pot.

Moreover, poor people are never opposed to big government because they’re exempt from all the annoying things that government does. They’re not worried about taxes: The government is not going to raise any taxes that they pay. They drive unlicensed cars, have no insurance, flee accidents, and couldn’t pay a court judgment anyway. The government doesn’t want to get in touch with the poor for any reason other than to give them things. So it’s lucky, in a way, that Democrats are the party of government workers. Unending immigration means we need rafts of government workers to educate non-English speakers, teach cultural sensitivity classes, arrest criminals, man prisons, clean up parks, distribute food stamps, arrange subsidized housing, and work in hospital emergency rooms to deliver all those premature babies.

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Democrats love the “browning of America” because they need the votes; liberals want it because they seek the destruction of America; and certain business interests support it because they want the cheap labor. They think: Subsidizing my cheap labor with immigrant workers will cost everybody—and we’re part of “everybody”—but the benefits of cheap labor go JUST TO US!

If businessmen think immigrants are going to be libertarians, they’re out of their minds. Look at their home countries! Immigrants have always favored the Democratic Party, but Mexicans can be counted on to develop into a voting bloc that will remain poor and in need of government assistance for generations. Also, it’s part of Mexican culture to bloc-vote for useless left-wing parties. Despite scandals, corruption, and economic failure, the Institutional Revolutionary Party ruled Mexico for seventy-one straight years. Seventy-one years! Even African Americans haven’t been bloc-voting for the Democrats that long.

What will happen when people who come from countries where tax evasion is a way of life are supposed to pay taxes? What’s going to happen when a mostly white senior population is being supported by a mostly brown younger population? Whose taxes will be raised to make up the shortfall? Not the people who don’t pay any taxes at all. Employers don’t care. They want the cheap labor NOW. American businesses are like sharks: All appetite, no brain. They’re willing to screw over everyone in their line of sight to make one more dollar in profit. We’re seeing exactly what Lenin is supposed to have said about capitalists: They will sell us the rope with which to hang them.

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Everyone who supports our current immigration policies does so for his own reason:
+Democrats for the votes;
+Employers for the cheap labor;
+Rich people for the nannies, maids, and gardeners;
+Republicans for the campaign cash;
+and Churches for the taxpayer money.

You will notice that none of these reasons has anything to do with what’s good for the country. An immigration law premised on the idea that America owes the rest of the world would be bad enough. But Third World immigration + massive welfare state + political correctness = The End of America. We not only favor immigrants as different from us as possible, but we no longer ask anything of immigrants in terms of assimilation. We can’t. That would be “racist.”

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To paraphrase what President Bush used to say about terrorists: The anti-amnesty side has to be perfect every time; the pro-amnesty side only has to win once. And then the country is finished. There won’t be any reason to care about politics, anymore. At least I can finally clean out my attic.

Any other bad law can be repealed. Roe v. Wade can be overturned. Obamacare can be repealed. Amnesty is forever.

Quote: (02-07-2016 11:29 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

You guys really think Trump won't do the same??

Worst case scenario - he might not keep his word. Not impossible.
Best case scenario, he'll stick to his campaign promises and deport illegals while restricting other immigration.

Compare that to any other candidate, and your best case scenario is what is happening in Europe right now, only on a somewhat smaller scale, along with shitloads of H1B visa holders and a collapse of STEM jobs. No thanks.

Quote: (02-07-2016 11:29 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

You guys really think Trump won't do the same??

Maybe he will. Who knows. But he is the only one promising something different and also isn't a career politician.

What has gained my trust in him is this man came out and made some of the least politically correct statements I have seen on TV in a decade. He doesn't care what people say. He took huge risk making the statements he made.

I don't agree with Trump nearly as much as I do Ron Paul but I respect Trump more and trust he will make America win again. Trump could run as a democrat and I would vote for him.

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Compare that to any other candidate, and your best case scenario is what is happening in Europe right now, only on a somewhat smaller scale, along with shitloads of H1B visa holders and a collapse of STEM jobs. No thanks.

Anyone in tech would be stupid not to vote for Trump, his HB1 visa 100 000$ minimum is enough for the entire silicon valley to vote Trump. They are fucking idiots if they can't see that. He does need to talk about it more though, i understand the primaries are just beginning and its in states that are not very affected by that program, once the national campaign really gets under way, he should mention it on every fucking speech.

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This is America's future if anyone but Trump:

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This is a very important video. What the woman describes as her town was raped and pillaged to death is just the first of tens of thousands of towns across Europe that will suffer a similar fate. In fact, I am sure many towns in Germany and Sweden already have since they have received so many muzzies.

This will come to America as well unless Trump is elected. If it comes to America there will be a bloody Civil War, however. Europeans are just food for the beast. European resistance will be unable to withstand this onslaught between their government and endless muzzie hordes.

If Trump is elected, Europe will probably be saved. But I expect see the American army battling NATO forces and other European "armies" as America struggles to take back Europe. The treason runs deep my friends, the Talmuds have been planning this for a long time.

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I don't think it will be as bad as Samseau suggests, even if the worst of the worst are elected, Bernie/Hillary. I think America will see Europe in 2016 and begin to wise up. We may not keep out many of the hispanics but we won't be bringing in many refugees from the Middle East. Personally, I'd rather live among middle class hispanics than whites or blacks, too bad the USA imports the poorest of the poor hispanics.

I do think it would be smart for everybody here to come up with a 5-10 year plan. Be ready to be mobile in 5 or 10 years. You won't need a fortune and you don't need to be Simon Black with 50 passports. But come up with an amount of money you need to live for a while. I would also try to get some passive income online or have a few rental homes that cashflow with local management. I don't think it will be the end in 5 years but the environment might not be one you enjoy living in, though I think 10 and most likely 20 years is a more accurate timeframe for a complete culture change. I don't think the USA will be recognizable in 20 years.

Personally, I love South America and that is probably where I will reside(spent most of the last few years here). Certain 3rd tier cities are perfect tranquil places where people are top notch. Spanish and Portuguese are very easy languages to learn as well. Culture is not all that different and girls are sexy in many of these cities. Its not hard to live a pretty decent life for 1,000-1200 a month.

Damn dude, are you a mind reader? This is pretty much my plan and mindset. Get passive income streams going, 5-10 year window, LA/Spain for easy language/cheap cost/sexy women/family oriented culture. I don't think the US is coming to an end in the near future but living here and trying to start a family (especially if Hillary gets elected) is going to be even more of a nightmare. Hillary (and probably Bernie too) will push the worst aspects of militant feminist/politically correct beliefs into law where pretty much being a man and existing is likely to be a crime.

If the tide turns (Trump getting elected being a damn good start), then consider staying.

Passive income streams are mostly a pipedream. Once the American economy dries up (it's not going to last more than 5 years at current rates), American's won't be buying shit online and you'll have zero income in a foreign culture. Good luck surviving.

The guys who say the decline will happen in 20 years from now are the same ones who said back in 2008 that Obama wouldn't be so bad, the American economy will have recovered, people would start having more kids, feminism would become less and less acceptable, etc.

The only thing left to do is prepare for war. Anything else is a waste of time.

There are passive or semi-passive incomes that aren't based on selling stuff online. Real estate is a big one.

There are major structural issues within the modern economy that no one is really addressing in the political sphere but will have to soon. The US and the modern economy is or is about to enter a post-scarcity economy where we simply don't have enough jobs for everyone to make a decent living; excluding an industrial revolution like event occurring before then. Trump is likely to buy us a few generations in time since reducing the labor pool (kicking out illegals), lowering taxes (more money for people to spend), and bringing jobs back to the US will do wonders for the economy. Obviously, this would be be my preferred outcome.

If he isn't elected, things will likely go two ways:

1. There will be a lot of poor people, a small middle class, and the wealthy. Something you see in a lot of Latin American countries for instance and seeing the formation of right now in the US with crony capitalism, open borders, and anti-American business practices. If a cuck gets elected, this is likely what we will get. More of the same.

Or

2. We will get a government that will impose Scandinavian level socialism and usher in guaranteed incomes and/or massive welfare programs to keep a large part of the population from suffering. Bernie would do just that if given free reign. Hillary could go either way with a mix of both cuck/socialist policies.

In all three above potential scenarios (Trump, a cuck, a democrat), a lot of folks will still be eating, needing a place to live, and still buying luxury items of some variety. To what extent depends but the US economy just stopping and falling into complete chaos is extremely unlikely. I don't buy into the doom and gloom that is being suggested. In all three above scenarios, there are opportunities for guys like us to make money in some capacity.

Sorry man, but this is nonsense. If making a passive income in shit conditions is so easy, why aren't guys making bank selling online shit to people in Brazil? If America is becoming a Brazil (or worse), then why aren't people figuring out how to thrive in the Brazilian economy and travel to other locations?

Time to accept reality. Denial does nobody any good. For example, this is denial:

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Now, there is likely going to be strife, struggle, and uncomfortable living for some (especially for the blue pill beta male) but I'm not convince the US overall (even if Hillary gets elected) will go down the tubes completely in the near future. Even during the depression, there were people still making money and building wealth. The depression lasted around a decade but the US survived and went on to kick ass eventually. Shitty time period for many but not for everyone.

Since I assume the US economy isn't going to implode entirely and suddenly (more likely to see a slow degrade over a period of decades or even maybe centuries), my personal emphasis for the next 5-25 years is on an ideal cultural and legal environment where being a man isn't a crime, hot women reside, family life is valued, and where the USD goes the furthest. The US could be that place again; much higher odds if Trump is elected.

Dude, during the last depression things were so bad that tens of thousands of soldiers marched on Washington DC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

Now, imagine the same thing this time, except:

- The dollar has been hyperinflated into trash
- There are tens of millions of violent immigrants, including ISLAM, a group of people who revel in death and show no mercy, rampaging through cities raping and pillaging
- The government is more interested in policing citizens than actual criminals

Guess what happens when that same army marches on Washington DC this time around? You think it's going to be resolved peacefully? You're joking.

The only reason America managed to get out of the last Depression was WW2. We were the victors and we collected the spoils. But now all of America's post-WW2 wealth has been pissed away, and America is back to the same starting point they were at before WW2 started 70 years ago. Ashes to ashes.

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But if the USD crumbles into being virtually worthless all of sudden in even 2nd/3rd world countries and things have truly fallen apart, there are ways to deal and plan for that extremely unlikely scenario: stocking up on practical knowledge, food, weapons, medical supplies, precious metals.

Planning for the apocalypse is one thing but living for its potential arrival is another matter altogether and not a healthy way to to go through life in my opinion. But to each and their own.

It's really not unlikely. Open a history book. Major giant country shattering wars every century for the last 20 centuries. Hyperinflation and bankruptcy also not very uncommon either.

Look at how fast things have declined since Obama took office.

When Obama came in, he was anti-gay marriage. The debt was 9 trillion. There was still some manufacturing left. Feminists did not control the media. The Middle East was under US control. Europe was safe and prosperous.

Fast forward 8 years:

- Gay marriage now law of the land
- 18 trillion debt going on 21 trillion (latest budget increased debt by 2 trillion)
- Less than 10% of jobs in America come from manufacturing
- 70% of jobs added last Janurary were minimum wage
- Middle East is in total chaos, ISIS is rising into a new caliphate that is ultra violent and makes Hitler look like a nice guy.
- Europe being invaded by millions of Muslims every year
- Feminists have so much media control this forum is now under attack people here are constantly afraid of getting doxxed.


Can you imagine what another 8 years of this bullshit will bring? We will all be fucked, my friend. This is decline on steroids. War is coming, because the vast majority of people have no other choice.

My bad man, forgot about this thread and lost track. Anyhow...

I don't discount a lot of what you have said; I have even predicted a possible civil war in another thread if Sanders gets elected for instance. I just don't think things are going to suddenly come apart super quickly and certain industries and professions are going to thrive or at least be in demand for the foreseeable future. Maybe not in the US but somewhere at least. I can't imagine the entire world across the board being some kind of Mad Max deal.

If shit hits the fan though, there are ways to survive and be successful in a possible new world. As alluded to by other posters earlier, there will be winners and losers and opportunities to be successful (as has been the case in every major conflict); either here and/or elsewhere in another country.

But if you really believe what you're saying, I would be leaving the US ASAP and trying to set-up some off the grid lifestyle in Chile or elsewhere. I suppose you are sticking it out to see if Trump gets elected.

Shit will not hit the fan. There will be Brazilification. Worse for all but the indigent poor and elites.

Quote: (02-16-2016 02:38 PM)Enoch Wrote:  

Shit will not hit the fan. There will be Brazilification. Worse for all but the indigent poor and elites.

Brazilification?

Let's see, how did Brazil do last century...?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_so...ebt_crises

Brazil (1898, 1902, 1914, 1931, 1937, 1961, 1964, 1983, 1986–1987,[1] 1990[1])

Went bankrupt 10 times. And in every time, they could still be bailed out because of the rich USA to the north. Who is going to bailout the USA? Shit will not hit the fan?

I don't think guys appreciate what Brazilification really means.

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But if you really believe what you're saying, I would be leaving the US ASAP and trying to set-up some off the grid lifestyle in Chile or elsewhere. I suppose you are sticking it out to see if Trump gets elected.

Nah, I don't believe in running away from my problems. Unless I could marry into a rich family in a safe country (say like Korea or something) I'd rather stay and fight.

Just saw this thread. One thought I have had in one last few days is about the second amendment. Now that Obama is likely to get to appoint a new justice, I think he will try to overturn or neuter th 2a.

He will probably appoint a candidate that is middle of the road but anti 2a.

If he is smart he will decide a center right candidate who is black and is anti cop or something like that. The republicans will blow him out of the water and the second choice will be middle of the road, perhaps with a few points on the republican side such as being against gay marriage or amnesty, and this will mean that the republicans will compromise to keep the senate.

This will be smart because it will give his party time to get a handful of anti gun bills up through the courts to reach scouts right after a new judge tips the balance.

Now, being an election year might make this seem unlikely but think about it.

The demos will be able to use months of saying that republicans are obstructionist while painting themselves as the reasonable side.

Also they will find, or if you believe the theories manufacture, some gun related events.

This will force the new liberal scouts to hear the cases and it will make the right foam at the mouth painting the republicans in a even darker light as far as the centrists and low info voters are concerned. Especially compared to sanders or Clinton, you know she will steal his rhetoric to get his voters when she gets the nomination.

I expect that in 8 months we will be hearing the following:

"Omg it's 2016...they care more about military weapons than dozens of little kids....the hate America...look how they have constantly obstructed the government and will of the people....a new poll shows 90% of Americans support gun regulations and so on."

Hell. If cops side with the normal folks and a large percentage of Americans claim, or act, to go against the government then it will be even better for the.

They, especially Obama, have been laying the ground work for a nationized police force for awhile now. That is what, in my opinion, all the anti cop stuff has been about and the balm shit.

Make the situation bad enough and turn the public against cops and then the government can come in and set up a nationized police force. If you want to fuck with the citizenry, by confiscating guns, then you don't want sherif x taking the guns from citizen y when they both went to the same high school and played sports together.

The fact that have a bunch of anarchists like the balm folks who will riot, pillage, and rape middle America is just icing on the cake.

I may be going too far into conspiracy land and may be wrong, but I honestly think Obama will go after guns before his term is up.