[Lime]

(02-05-2016 05:01 AM)seabridge Wrote:  

I'm 5'7, and i'm rarely approached by girls, but i do get eye contact a lot when i'm out and about.
I recently broke up with my ex, who was taller than me and a 8. So height have never been a problem for me, but i usually go after shorter girls.

I noticed from friends and guys i know, the short guys gets laid a lot more and have more game than taller people. My big brother and his friend, both around my height, and both have around 100 notches in their 20s. Anyone got any theories about this, or do us short guys just put in more effort to get laid?

EDIT: I did get approached A LOT, when i was in SEA

The only guys I know with >100 notch count aren't that tall, and one of them even has a not so pretty face. They go for what they want, the have killer instinct, and they know how to tease.

[The Wire]

(02-04-2016 11:48 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

Those girls tend to, generally, be self conscious about dating a short guy. I've actually had to work harder to land shorter girls.

Girls in the 5'4 - 5'8 range, no problem. Some of them are actually self conscious about being "too tall."

That doesn't make much sense. You're saying you have an easier time with girls 5'7"-5'8" over 5'1"-5'2" girls? My only guess is your sample size for those girls are much smaller than the shorter girls. I'm a little over 5'8" barefoot and there's no question in my mind girls 5'7"-5'8" are less receptive to me on average than 5'1"-5'2" girls. As you said many of the taller girls are self conscious about being "too tall" and they usually compensate this by aiming to date 6ft+ guys. Not dating guys shorter than them.

I will agree with booshala when he said lots of petite girls are approaching tall guys almost as if they subconsciously think height can balance out the next generation. I've seen that a lot. It's almost like the big guy is an exotic novelty for them.

[RatInTheWoods]

Girls don't even approach tall guys....

[JuiceDC]

I'm 5' 8" thin but muscular build (think a thinner Bruce Lee). I've been approached in person a few times with one hard close that I remember. I'm told I'm handsome but not pretty/ model gorgeous. Confidence and charisma are always the deciding factors. When I was younger and less confident I couldn't get my leg humped at the pound. Add some Roosh cockiness and I can consistently pull 7's. Working on the body and cashflow for the 8 - 9's. Social circle game helps too. Sometimes they need to be around you longer to get used to your style and best qualities. If you can't get 'em today get 'em tomorrow ;o)

[booshala]

(02-05-2016 08:13 PM)The Wire Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 11:48 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

Those girls tend to, generally, be self conscious about dating a short guy. I've actually had to work harder to land shorter girls.

Girls in the 5'4 - 5'8 range, no problem. Some of them are actually self conscious about being "too tall."

That doesn't make much sense. You're saying you have an easier time with girls 5'7"-5'8" over 5'1"-5'2" girls? My only guess is your sample size for those girls are much smaller than the shorter girls. I'm a little over 5'8" barefoot and there's no question in my mind girls 5'7"-5'8" are less receptive to me on average than 5'1"-5'2" girls. As you said many of the taller girls are self conscious about being "too tall" and they usually compensate this by aiming to date 6ft+ guys. Not dating guys shorter than them.

I will agree with booshala when he said lots of petite girls are approaching tall guys almost as if they subconsciously think height can balance out the next generation. I've seen that a lot. It's almost like the big guy is an exotic novelty for them.

In that regard, the tall guys I referred to told me on multiple occasions that the really tall girls (6' more or less) are MUCH easier to get with because there's much fewer guys that can actually make them feel small. Doubly so when the girls are Asian as my friends are. So they get approached by both shorties and Amazons... life ain't fair, what you gonna do.

[azulsombra]

(02-05-2016 04:17 AM)MuyTallguy Wrote:  

I'm 6'9" and white so pretty much everywhere I go people stare. The problem sometimes is sussing out actual IOIs vs. just looking at the giant. When I travel in Latin America, it's a huge advantage but elsewhere not so much. Funny thing re online is a lot of women put their cutoff at like 6'6". I do have a standard reply when I see that which usually works.

6"9?

What team do you play for?

[MuyTallguy]

Ha, well note the white part of the equation. I rebelled against playing ball and also wasn't very good. I do sometimes play that card with chicas if I'm bored. One time a buddy was trying to convince women at a bar that I was Dirk Nowitzki.

[RedPillUK]

It's hard for people to say what effect height has, because they've been the same height most of their lives. Travel to a country in Asia or Latin America where the local population is around your size or shorter and you can effectively see what it is like to be taller.

I just got back from Mexico and I feel like I understand what it's like to grow about six inches. Apart from the tourists I was taller or around the same height as most of the men, and girls were shorter as well which I think makes a difference. (Although I did also get with a teenage girl taller than me, also prevented her from getting a tattoo). Girls smiled at me in the street a lot more, and I always got good reactions from girls I talked to, I didn't have to talk to many to find ones who wanted to go to a quieter bar with me and then back to my hotel..

It was a huge difference to England. Going out here I can feel small if I'm surrounded by loud drunk, bitchy girls who in heels are around my height or taller, and then men normally 4 or more inches taller than me, bigger and more muscular. Although I still do ok here as most men don't have the balls to approach.

Although, the fact I speak a little Spanish, I'm white but don't look American, in good shape, was in a party/touristy city during a festival with good weather beaches, clubs and bars must have also made a big difference..ha..

[HOD]

This whole discussion about height in dating and especially in the Anglosphere environment is an over reaction to feminist ideals of men.

You're just appeasing and playing into feminism.

They want you to man up, they want you to be tall, they want you to be a good listener, and etc.

This is just a reaction to feminism. Just like game.

Height is greatly overvalued and overrated in the Anglo sphere. A by-product of Western/pop culture.

If you seriously have a mental issue with height, don't date girls from the Anglo sphere.

It will only reinforce this negative belief and emotion.

Have you ever notice how tall the French, Russian or Persian leaders are.

There short.

Iran former President was 5'4", Putin 5'7", and the current French and Past President both around 5'7".

All English, Canadian and American President at 6 feet plus.

Does anyone actually believe, America would vote for a 5'4" President?

French women and Russian women don't care about height that much. It's the Anglo sphere that is overly obsessive over this.

Height is not that a big of deal to the rest of the world.

You're just appeasing and playing into feminist ideal of men. Something we can never live up to.

It's like trying to man up. It's never enough.

[ComebackKid]

(02-05-2016 09:09 PM)booshala Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 08:13 PM)The Wire Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 11:48 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

Those girls tend to, generally, be self conscious about dating a short guy. I've actually had to work harder to land shorter girls.

Girls in the 5'4 - 5'8 range, no problem. Some of them are actually self conscious about being "too tall."

That doesn't make much sense. You're saying you have an easier time with girls 5'7"-5'8" over 5'1"-5'2" girls? My only guess is your sample size for those girls are much smaller than the shorter girls. I'm a little over 5'8" barefoot and there's no question in my mind girls 5'7"-5'8" are less receptive to me on average than 5'1"-5'2" girls. As you said many of the taller girls are self conscious about being "too tall" and they usually compensate this by aiming to date 6ft+ guys. Not dating guys shorter than them.

I will agree with booshala when he said lots of petite girls are approaching tall guys almost as if they subconsciously think height can balance out the next generation. I've seen that a lot. It's almost like the big guy is an exotic novelty for them.

In that regard, the tall guys I referred to told me on multiple occasions that the really tall girls (6' more or less) are MUCH easier to get with because there's much fewer guys that can actually make them feel small. Doubly so when the girls are Asian as my friends are. So they get approached by both shorties and Amazons... life ain't fair, what you gonna do.

This is true. You also get much better response online as a tall guy from tall girls.

[monster]

As a short guy the worst thing I can do is think about it because height is literally one of the very few things you cannot change about yourself, so you gotta work harder in other areas.

List of guys 5'7" and under:
Putin
Tom Cruise
Al Pacino
Bruce Lee
Andrew Carnegie
Prince
Robert Downey Jr
Humphrey Bogart
Beethoven (5' 3")
Genghis Khan (allegedly 5'1")
Alexander the Great
Isaac Newton
Sergey Brin

It is what it is. Gotta focus on other shit. Carnegie was apparently worth 4x the wealth of Buffet in today's dollars. Genghis conquered the world. Prince has had more sex with different hot women than I have masturbated in my life (which is a lot).

[robreke]

(03-16-2016 08:07 AM)monster Wrote:  

As a short guy the worst thing I can do is think about it because height is literally one of the very few things you cannot change about yourself, so you gotta work harder in other areas.

List of guys 5'7" and under:
Putin
Tom Cruise
Al Pacino
Bruce Lee
Andrew Carnegie
Prince
Robert Downey Jr
Humphrey Bogart
Beethoven (5' 3")
Genghis Khan (allegedly 5'1")
Alexander the Great
Isaac Newton
Sergey Brin

It is what it is. Gotta focus on other shit. Carnegie was apparently worth 4x the wealth of Buffet in today's dollars. Genghis conquered the world. Prince has had more sex with different hot women than I have masturbated in my life (which is a lot).

RD, Jr. is taller than that. He's about 5'9

Bogart was a tad taller than 5'7 too.

[JohannesAusPrag]

170cm here (think it's 5,7), in my case they don't, all my closes I had before and during bright era of my dry spell had to be approached directly.

Czech girls are not as tall as Danish chicks but they still got their German genes so often they are taller than me.
Anyway contrary to this my height makes it easier to close (number, kiss, bj, etc..) since girls here think I have to be brave to approach them and Czech guys in general don't approach so this makes my life easier as a manlet.

Long story short - they don't but I don't consider it disadvantage per se.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(02-05-2016 08:39 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Girls don't even approach tall guys....

Not good looking girls. Plenty of 2s, 3s, and 4s have struck up conversation hoping I'd give them a pity fuck.....

Don't know if I'll take it as a compliment or a bad thing.

[JWLZG]

(02-06-2016 11:01 AM)elimanning Wrote:  

All English, Canadian and American President at 6 feet plus.

England and Canada have presidents?



Anyway I can't fully agree that height is solely a cultural issue. I think it's a pretty universal trait of dominance, even if that's not the only factor that prized. There's a reason I get stared at when in South East Asia and do well with French girls.

I get approached a little bit more than the next guy, not as often as I receive IOIs. I can't say that any of those instances has solely been on the basis of height.

Facial aesthetics aside, I don't think my physique is outstandingly impressive by local standards. I'm only 184 cm/77 kg -- 5'11"/170 lb -- there are enough big dudes here that I say "only", never mind what Wikipedia says about Australia's average male height/weight.

On any given day, I can pass a gauntlet of tall dudes to make me feel distinctly short. Even more than a few FOB Asians here are noticeably are 6'. I'm at the height to be able to simply disappear in clubs and festivals.

I might go out on a limb and say that height is ubiquitous enough here that it'll go some ways, but not the whole way in sealing the deal. We have more than enough 6' + blokes that are facially fucked, dress like shit, have skinny/ectomorph structures, have no game (not because they don't need it!) that mean that it's only part of the part of the sum of what that guy can bring to the table.

In other words, in Australia, a dude can be rejected for being too short -- barring some niche -- but a tall dude can still be knocked back for not having some other feature going for him.

I've been rejected for being too short(!!) yet am tall enough to have attracted a handful of models. Go figure.

[Rico Ramon]

I'm 6"3 and about 200 pounds. I get approached and the look that let me know they are interested, However I've noticed when I go out to bars or clubs, women get a little a drink in them and their filter goes out the window, they touch, rub and say things they most likely wouldn't do.

I was in San Luis Obispo a few weeks ago and this college girl after a bit of talking with her, she asks for a hug and she says ' you are so fucking big'...gotta love it when they really let you know what they are thinking...