[Samseau]

The prison charge is bullshit, but he should have known better. Guys always lose to their dicks.

[budoslavic]

Russian wife: "I've written a book 'Beaten by my husband' ". Oh shit...



Original source of video can be found via BBC Three's Facebook page.

[Kona]

(02-23-2018 06:49 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(02-23-2018 06:20 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Eric Greitens, the governor of missouri, got indicted over taking naked pictures of the pretty ladies.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-...08a30.html

Today he resigned as president of the republican governors association.

He was being groomed by Steve Bannon for a presidential run later on down the road. They already caught Greitens funnelling all types of bannon sponsored dark money to his campaign.

This is too bad because this Eric dude in a cool guy. Navy Seal, Rhodes Scholar, best selling author, boxer, etc.

Aloha!

He took a picture of a girl that he bound and gagged. Told her later that he erased it.

One year in prison for that.

But other candidates can rape children and probably do snaff-films sodomizing them or worse.

Guess that they wanted to nip a potential future candidate in the butt, because they could not control him anyway. So what better way but to lynch him over some idiotic charge?

The prosecutor who indicted him got 200k from our man George Soros.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ind...es-n850931

Like I said, Greitens is either an after-Trump presidential candidate, or if something happens with Trump,and he can't run, they would put Eric up there.

You also got a hot 2018 senate race in Missouri. The republican challenger to Claire McCaskill got something like 50k from Grietens PAC, which is all a bunch of money the Steve bannon crew filtered to him. That Republican also happens to be the attorney general of Missouri.

Bad juju all around if you asks me. And I'm a Missouri politics anaylst. Its funny how these big money types like Soros are involved in redneck bullshit.

Aloha!

[Simeon_Strangelight]

2 good vids by Alternative Hypothesis:

One is about the usual race and IQ debate, which frankly has to be settled, because simply attacking the SJWs and feminists who claim that the outcome differences of men vs women or different races is rooted in oppression or discrimination simply attacks the tree while leaving the root intact.

For example we around here know that women have a different IQ distribution and the extreme poles are populated more by men, also that men have a much higher predisposition for joy in competition, risk taking, technical and scientific interests, single-pointedness of the mind on one subject, abstract thought and difference in pride derived from pure work - also of course not having to care for small children that much or being pregnant. Never mind the fact that men are stronger, faster, less prone to react to loud noises, have a better orientation than women. Essentially the differences are so grand that women simply will never be able to compete with men on all the achievement levels of civilization - and all human races are that way.

Now the same can be said about races and IQs as the most important factor of lifetime as well as civilization result. Of course basic economic and social systems matter too, but when given a chance to adopt a superior system, then the medieval feudal Japan became a highly technological marvel within 100 years pulling themselves from their bootstraps while other countries are mired with inefficiency and corruption as well as an uneducated population for decades despite being given more than the Japanese.

Even here are the race differences highly contested and there are claims that all you need to do is get better food and water, better education and all will be well.

That is why the topic of both male vs female oppression as well as racial discrimination will crop up again and again, because you deny the biological differences.

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In addition AltHyp speaks about the heritability of political views in so far that similarly as to greed/self-interest that you cannot re-condition humans to (tried under communism) that you also cannot recondition mankind into not blaming one different group for their problems.

Seems that this trait is very biological and human and this out-group blaming is to be found in humans wherever they are going to settle. The more different their biological makeup - in terms of race, culture, religion, then the greater will be this division.

That is why so many third world immigrants voted against Trump and for Hillary, despite being obviously more shitlord on their own turf. Because they knew that voting for the anti-White anti-Western democrats will get their own group more added benefits and more of their group via immigration so that they can ultimately wipe out the dominance of the White man. It's essentially the Venezuelan delusion again and again, that they will do things much better than the capitalist swines at the top.

Ultimately this multicultural experiment of the melting pot will collapse in a brutal clash of blood and tears. I don't think that human groups can survive in a coordinated fashion if one group is not at least working in a dominant more or less benevolent way in that place - Singapore - Han Chinese, Chile - Spaniard domination, West - white Christian domination. At best a positive system could be replaced by another dominant force whose output difference is about the same or higher - Chinese one day dominating Australia and it becoming more a Chinese colony (that would not be as bad as it sounds). But if you have less efficient groups taking over in Western Europe or the US over time, then entire countries will devolve into Roman shitholes.

Also another point - as I was watching the second vid I realized that many of the White advocate variety blame all their troubles on the Jews while completely omitting the ruling role of the old European aristocracy (some still being elite), the Anglo-Saxon money elite as well as many high-level co-workers who are not just followers, but active leaders. The majority of them in fact are formerly of Christian stock.

[Malone]

Pat Condell's newest is brilliant.

[MMX2010]

@Zelcorpion,

The Alt-Hype video you linked here...

...was created because of this debate between Richard Spencer plus JF Gariepy VERSUS Vee and ArchHammer.

That debate was amazing, mostly because two proponents of an EthnoState were able to make their arguments against two Leftists without anyone being shouted down, insulted, or whatever. The Leftists (Vee and ArchHammer) were quite nice, even though they got steamrolled by the EthnoNationlists.

The most heated part came when Richard Spencer casually alluded to the influence of genetics upon political views, which triggered Vee into saying "Correlation is not causation!", "Can I see a source?" and "Look, I can blow this up easily: you can kidnap a White baby from England, and raise him up as a Buddhist in Japan, and he'll become a Buddhist."

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In my opinion, the most important thing that Alt-Hype's videos do is reformulate the Nature vs Nurture / Genetics vs Environment debate that leads to both Annoyed Confusion and Leftist Immigration Policies.

If you separate Nature from Nurture (Genetics from Environment), you'll inevitably imagine scenarios where racial differences become mitigated through "education" or "a long enough time scale". But if you glue Nature and Nurture together into what Alt-Hype calls "the genetic mesh", you'll literally start to feel that massive internal force that prevents "education" and "time scales" from working.

Liberals ARE NOT currently ready to handle assertions that genetics strongly influence political views. And you only need to correct their screw ups about Nurture.


"If White Christian parents raise their children to become Christians, that's Nurture/Environment not Genetics!"

(Really? You dumbass. His parents have 50% genetic similarity, literally the highest possible genetic similarity. And he's surrounded by White people who are also genetically similar. That's mostly genetics, not mostly Nurture/Environment.)

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"If you kidnap a White English baby and raise him as a Buddhist in Japan, he'll become a Buddhist!"

(Really? (1) I think if you allow him to live in an all-White neighborhood, surrounded by White Christians, he's more likely to resist Buddhism, because you surrounded him with his genetic similars. (2) I also think if you allow him to live in a Japanese neighborhood, surrounded by kindly Japanese people, he's more likely to become a Buddhist. (3) But, also, if you allow him to live in a Japanese neighborhood, but people are mean to him because he looks different, he's more likely to reject Buddhism. Item 1 represents a strong genetic influence; Item 2 represents a strong cultural influence; Item three represents how a large genetic difference influenced a mean cultural response.)

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The genetic mesh idea is very powerful, especially because it plants a seed in someone's mind that politics is caused by genetics. Plant that seed correctly, and it'll grow.

[amity]

Alternative Hypothesis really has some outstanding and very informative videos, he's done a lot of research to come up with videos like this one:

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The funny part about heritability of political traits is that they are also influenced by different factors like selective breeding and behavioral patterns over multiple generations, as well as religious thought also over centuries. Lack of inbreeding or elmination of that takes also multiple generations.

Take for example the difference between individualism and collectivism. Japan and China are high-IQ collectivist societies. They can attain a high level of civilization, but are prone to not change their course easily.

Westerners are lower IQ, but far more individualist which helps for certain endeavors.

Ashkenazi Jews or Jews in general were once likely mercenaries in Egypt, but they highly changed their breeding pattern later on for more intellectual application - their previous less high-T selective pattern made them more susceptible for collectivist and communist thoughts, which explains why they attempted to make communism work also in Israel for so long. Though I might add that this is changing now fast also as their adapt to the aggressive nature of their Arab neighbors.

Another strange example is Rome where the Barbarian future Germans, Slavs and French were unable to replicate the same success as the Romans despite being of similar IQ and race. The gap in culture, religion, entire mental patterns was simply too big.

Compare it to the US and the inbred low-IQ white Appalachia:

It would take quite some time, fresh blood and massive changes to make people out of them who can actually compete with the current-day Americans.

In a similar vein we can analyze all groups of mass migration coming in of who will integrate well and contribute (most Euro-stock to the West), who will compete well, but change the culture (intelligent Indians, Chinese) and who for the most part will neither be able to compete nor integrate (most Blacks, South American Indians, Muslims across all races).

In addition I think that there is also something relevant in regards to the level of civilization and IQs. You can have a medieval society with an average IQ of 80, when the elite and the tiny scientific class is smart enough - Rome, medieval Caliphate, medieval Europe. But as soon as you want to breach the gap to mass education, complex job behavior, where even being a McDonald's cashier employee necessitates an IQ of 90-95, then you are in big shit with a population of 85.

That is what you currently see in Appalachia and what Jordan B Peterson has addressed - there are currently no jobs for the lower 15% of the white population.

Now - all of that can theoretically change over multiple generations, with massive k-selection, lack of inbreeding, but none of it is attainable via blind mass immigration, via affirmative action programs and screaming about racism and oppression.

Thus I see a great many conflicts coming and so do the elite, because they are planning it all:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2007...enews.news

Quote:

Revolution, flashmobs, and brain chips. A grim vision of the future

Flashmobs are by the way simply groups rapidly mobilized by criminal gangs or terrorist groups - that is already the case. The Caliphate could easily mobilize tens of thousands, but the current military is still far more powerful.

The only way to control the diversity in the future of the West is via brain chips or some kind of total surveillance.

But your old culture will be gone, though I feel optimistic that North Asia will be next zenith of Earth civilization.

[Enoch]

^ Interesting point about Rome

What made Rome develop an orderly civilization before other peoples of similar geographies, IQs?

Why were the Germans and French the barbarians?

Maybe it all comes down to luck and Rome had the great fortune of having outstanding leaders who survived into adulthood to order the society around them.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-27-2018 09:17 PM)Enoch Wrote:  

^ Interesting point about Rome

What made Rome develop an orderly civilization before other peoples of similar geographies, IQs?

Why were the Germans and French the barbarians?

Maybe it all comes down to luck and Rome had the great fortune of having outstanding leaders who survived into adulthood to order the society around them.

No - the assumptions of conventional historians actually speak a plausible tale.

It is rather simple why civilization usually develops first in warmer more fertile climate. When your energy is highly devoted to bare survival, to hunting due to many seasonal changes, then those societies with relatively easy agricultural methods in warmer climates in Greece, Persia, Rome, Egypt (the nile delta was the bread basket of the known world at one time), Carthage even (North Africa).

It simply takes plenty of excess energy for a leisure class to sit down and start thinking about greater things than just feeding and clothing your population.

Still - even to achieve a level like Rome meant in my opinion a basic average IQ and plenty of folk in the upper echelons able and willing to devote their energy to science, architecture, technology. Rome of course as a civilization was not limited to IQs, neither were the Persians, the Chinese, or the Goths in Germany.

Later on Rome was more limited by one very important factor that held them back:

SLAVERY.

Some Roman scientists even developed the steam engine, but only used it for show instead of labor. Any invention that moves to industrialization lowers the value of slaves. And lack of mechanization and creation of preliminary pre-industrial manufacturing units held back more advances of science. In a way slavery is a vicious cycle that the elite does not wish to escape, because the 1% would lose so much equity.

If the South of the US had been left completely alone with the North dying in some kind of natural cataclysm and if the US had then become an isolationist country, then I think that the US would not have developed much beyond the mid 19th century technological level. Guess the next contact with the world would have been a joint attack by the Japanese and Nazi German airforce and navy.

In addition there are of course other reasons of why certain areas develop more strongly.

For example - competition between nations in Europe was one and the lack of any internal competition in China or Japan was a reason why their isolationist tactic could work. If there had been constantly warring countries within China for the last thousands of years then who knows - the Chinese might have ushered in industrialization in the year 1000.

Also - I think that there are higher levels of development than ours which might necessitate even higher average IQs. We just have not encountered them yet. For example - our current technological level is already suppressed actively by the usury-globo-homo bunch who:

1) They do not want to replace oil and gas (that is holding us back the most) - they even make up stupid crap like global warming to roll back technological develepment - so they are replacing it with more dumb crap instead of virtually unlimited tech

2) They suppress plenty of knowledge in terms of health, because rolling out all the available science would result in hundreds of billions of less Big Pharma income, higher lifespans of the populations (thus more pensions being spent on the useless eaters), smarter populations (also bad, since a bit more difficult to manipulate) etc.

The current global elite is also highly paranoid and wishes to control everyone's thoughts in order to try and rule forever. Instead of going interstellar, having unlimited energy and longer and smarter lifespans, they rather want to create a limited prison-planet for total control and an eternal caste-system.

So every time has their own problems I guess - the Romans had the elite who did not want to let go of slavery and who became ever more degenerate over time. We have our elite who push feminism, multiculturalism, degeneracy, suppression of higher technology - all so that that they can one day rule in A ONE GLOBO-HOMO WORLD GOVERNMENT where they can offer you for-profit limited technology and where you are not even given the option of having a family.

But we will see whether that will work out - each elite in history had their shitty plans and they all ended one way or another anyway.

[Speculation]

South Africa's National Assembly just adopted a motion on land expropriation without compensation

Quote:

Cape Town – The National Assembly on Tuesday set in motion a process to amend the Constitution so as to allow for the expropriation of land without compensation.

The motion, brought by the EFF leader Julius Malema, was adopted with a vote of 241 in support, and 83 against.

The only parties who did not support the motion were the DA, Freedom Front Plus, Cope and the ACDP.

The matter will now be referred to the Constitutional Review Committee which must report back to Parliament by August 30.

Never go full Zimbabwe.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

The problem with South Africa is that it's Communist, not that it's African. Many people are too blinded with skin color issues to realize what is truly going on there (hint: Cambodia on a slower scale).

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-28-2018 06:31 AM)Speculation Wrote:  

South Africa's National Assembly just adopted a motion on land expropriation without compensation

Quote:

Cape Town – The National Assembly on Tuesday set in motion a process to amend the Constitution so as to allow for the expropriation of land without compensation.

The motion, brought by the EFF leader Julius Malema, was adopted with a vote of 241 in support, and 83 against.

The only parties who did not support the motion were the DA, Freedom Front Plus, Cope and the ACDP.

The matter will now be referred to the Constitutional Review Committee which must report back to Parliament by August 30.

Never go full Zimbabwe.

Nelson Mandela was a communist terrorist and that is why spent decades behind bars. He was no Gandhi.

Of course the economic destruction in Zimbabwe and South Africa is also motivated by communist thinking, but black ownership in Zimbabwe is still fine.

Sorry - no it's not mainly communist thinking that is shaping those countries - it's the anti-White actions which are making most of the destructive things happen.

Confiscation of land in South Africa also means now that they can take industrial lands with their factories on it.

White South Africans are not truly fucked. If they band together in armed revolt, then the US will bomb them to kingdom come if they managed to carve out a white South African part. If they don't, then they are dead meat anyway left without a penny.

Tough choice.

[Noir]

White South Africans are mainly fucked because they aren't the type of people to take it sitting down.

In this context, white South Africans = Afrikaners; they are the majority of white farmers and the ones who are being killed on a weekly basis.

The ANC has joined the EFF with their populist approach and the general consensus (among whites here) is that they're aiming to absorb EFF votes to maintain a majority in Parliament in 2019 (elections). EFF is promoting a vote of no confidence in Nelson Mandela Bay to get the DA elected official out for an ANC one.

Ramaphosa changed up the cabinet and made some very positive changes (Public Enterprises, Gordhan & Finance, Nene to name a few) but he looked like a defeated man and it's obvious that he has to bend over for the rest of the ANC- hence Mabuza as VP & Gigaba in Home Affairs and a lot of corrupt cronies still in power.

This whole situation is fucked on so many levels.

a) ANC internal politics and owing favours -> full of power hungry inept people
b) Ramaphosa is a Venda, he's dealing with a political party mainly Zulu and Xhosa; he is there by merit and thanks to Mabuza supporting him but they both owe many favours now
c) The black populace demanding the 'land' back as this has been 'promised'. We had a similar problem 2 years ago with free tertiary education (and now the pass rate in high schools is 30%)

My observations (and some ironies) regarding land reform are:

a) Some land has already been confiscated and 97% of the people offered the land chose cash because they're either unskilled, not willing to learn or just looking for cash to spend on stupid things

b) They are encouraging 'no compensation' to the original farmers which is bound to spark a civil war of sorts and this is pushed by the EFF. The EFF want to socialize the land and the people lease it from the government. A lot of the people here think they will magically get the land and it will be the land they want. The ANC has yet to clarify this.

c) It's utterly unconstitutional so they will just change the constitution. No problem. This sets a dangerous precedent and a massive distraction from other problems (Russian Nuclear deal which Gorhan will put a stop to, hopefully & water crisis & unemployment)

d) The government itself is sitting on shitloads of land which they don't want to distribute but rather take from the skilled white farmer. Yet they will let the Ingonyama Trust (Zulu royalty) keep their land and not distribute.

e) The majority of the land (surface area) is arable farming land but nobody wants to farm because it's considered 'basic' and the new black middle class are past that

f) The whole proposal of this reform reads exactly like the Nazi Economic Transformation plan, replacing 'Jews' with 'whites' (really, take a look)

g) Enter massive brain drain and loss of expertise, not just with farmers but the pure fear spread among white people who are the majority of banking and tech.

h) Ramaphosa increased VAT by 1% and mentioned that we need the ZAR to be weak for exporting purposes and the timing of this is uncanny. The cabinet announcement (Nene) strengthened it yet the reform announcement weakened it. Obvious manipulation to keep our exports competitive so we are observing parallel threads at play.


The most annoying theme right now are the social media race wars. No one is racist in the street, only online but so many people live online now that it's slowly leaking in to the real world.

White people living in fear (because they can't speak) and black people pounding their chests (because apparently they are incapable of being racist). Everyone has now learned the term 'redress' to fit their own agenda.

@Zelcorpion, great post as usual. A lot of whites are teaming up now and planning some sort of protective agency for themselves. We are just outnumbered though. There are certain enclaves and other little 'bastions' but truly a David vs Goliath scenario. The Zulus and Xhosas have the political power. The Afrikaners & British whites here have the economic power. The difference is that all blacks here view it as a zero sum game and most whites are emotionally tied to this place that they will be stubborn and not want to leave.

The only good thing about Black Economic Empowerment (affirmative action for the majority) is that it's forced most whites to upskill and to become resourceful and competitive enough to work overseas. The only problem is that the SA government has fucked so many foreign relationships (Gigaba especially as minister of Home Affairs in the past) that work visas have become difficult and a lot of locals feel trapped; it's not only whites who want to leave for greener pastures.

It's amazing how this whole debacle can happen in Zimbabwe (after their squandering of UN loans in 1980s) and they can alienate the most productive faction of the population and literally not learn from the mistakes of their neighbours. Even more so as refugees were pouring into South Africa and the locals were arming themselves and killing them in cold blooded fashion. This approach was also enforced with Malawians, Somalians, Rwandans and Congolese who based off my personal and professional experience, are very hardworking. You have to be when you escape a war zone. The only exception being the Nigerians who are generally disliked, especially in Johannesburg.

This is the epitome of emotion dictating political actions as opposed to reason; learn from fucking mistakes. They fucked up the water situation, squandered public funds, did every 'African' political mistake possible and continue on their path of 'Escalation of Commitment', fucking shit up.

I predict the black South Africans will figure out sooner rather than later that the wool has been pulled over their eyes (there simply isn't enough land to be given without merit) and they will resort to their usual looting, rioting, burning tyres and starting shit.

The greatest irony is that the ANC severed ties with Israel last week but proceed to go ahead with the motion to change the constitution and take land away from the whites. Without deviating into Israel/Palestine (I am completely neutral), call a spade a spade.

The worst thing for the whites here is that they can't say shit. Anything they say is met with 'racist' despite black twitter here being supremely racist.

Finally, a link showing how distorted the racism reports are here.

I definitely missed a few points here and there but to me it's not just about race.

It's about being able to converse, debate and have an educated discussion in order to come up with a rational conclusion.

Unfortunately this is not possible so people resort to the lowest denomination of engagement; name-calling, victim-seeking and finger-pointing. Any blacks who stand up against the injustice of this land reforms are alienated and unfortunately the tribalism here is severe so for them it's more hard hitting than most groups.

I know this is a bit of a ramble so please point out any discrepancies/inconsistencies and feel free to ask any questions.

[Samseau]

With Trump in power, there is a serious chance rebellious Whites in SA will not be bombed into the stone age. Anyone else but Trump would easily side with the Blacks to appease the globo-homo-complex. The Whites in SA should just go for a revolution if they lose their property rights.

[Noir]

(02-28-2018 10:55 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

With Trump in power, there is a serious chance rebellious Whites in SA will not be bombed into the stone age. Anyone else but Trump would easily side with the Blacks to appease the globo-homo-complex. The Whites in SA should just go for a revolution if they lose their property rights.

I doubt Trump will blink an eye and from the moment he called Africa shithole, people took that to heart.

A revolution is unlikely because whites are outnumbered, outgunned (statistically), all authorities would would 'protect' them are either corrupt or empathetic to blacks, millennials are SJW apologists and many other reasons.

The farm murders are truly brutal and hatefully incited. No items are stolen generally, just horrific torture and rape using drills, common tools and occasional burning of people alive. The sheer fear factor of this + the paranoia of being watched has a heavy emotional toll. I can't comprehend living on a farm where there's darkness for kilometers and people can see you but you can't see them.

No matter what, it has to be a united response.

That being said, so far it's a very small minority who are victims to these brutal crimes (as a % of white population. As a % of farmers, they have the highest mortality per capita in any occupation in the world). Living in a city, you don't really face such commonplace murder but rather, you live in a fortress with electric fencing and high walls minimizing your contact with the outside world, especially in Johannesburg, Durban, PE etc and less so in Cape Town. The reason being geographical segregation being a legacy of apartheid.

This always was an issue for me; they are being slaughtered and don't want to leave. If they have no more land, they may be forced to leave but with farming being their skills, they are naturally concerned. The expropriation of land without compensation will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

I truly appreciate the concern from the rest of the world in forums such as this and alternative media such as Lauren Southern who has covered it over the past months.

On gated communities:

On farm murders (one of a few videos):

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Honestly I cannot only imagine one way how South Africa will go down. Whites will be pushed ever more back until the country collapses economically, the very rich flee with their clothes on the their backs and the majority gets slaughtered in one final bloodbath.

Afterward the country become the usual anti-Wakanda and a failed state.

As a farmer I would not have any hope. Probably if I was in the situation I would do one last stint, be a paranoid well-armed psycho for a while with night-vision goggles and heavy machine guns, then grow as much marihuana as possible and simply fuck off after the first harvest.

When the shit finally hits the fan, then nothing will be worth much anyway and no one will buy it. It will be like Europe during WWII - good luck trying to sell anything that is worth much while the killing is still going on.

In theory whites could unite under one banner, but that simply won't happen, because there are still too many SJW believers there, hopeful idiots, traitor elite like usual and dejected bottom-class whites. And of course any actual revolt would have to come down in a unified way with parts of the white military splitting off at the same time and the people trying to carve out some white territories with new borders.

Currently Whites are overnumbered 10 to 1, so it's possible to win if the difference in armament is not too big. But I see no way of success for this, because that splinter-group would get zero support by any country in the world and time would be running against them. So no - there is zero hope of armed conflict being in any way successful.

It will be death, more murders, more economic destruction, more confiscation, more poverty until a final economic collapse and likely murdering flashmobs running through the streets and beheading tens of thousands of Whites - women, children, men. That will be the final nail and legacy of the enlightened black leadership.

No matter who you are over there - get the fuck out of the country or live well-armed, with packed suit cases and an undercover exit plan always ready like some movie Al Pacino character.

The true Wakanda would be a shithole and South Africa is going there.

[gework]

It's not hard to see this going a lot lower:



Given how much money the UK government stuffed into Zuma's personal pockets, the ANC can be assured of funding to build cultural tolerance centers on top of any mass graves.

What's the situation with agricultural imports? I heard SA was pretty close to becoming a net importer if not breached that.

[Enoch]

(02-28-2018 12:54 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Honestly I cannot only imagine one way how South Africa will go down. Whites will be pushed ever more back until the country collapses economically, the very rich flee with their clothes on the their backs and the majority gets slaughtered in one final bloodbath.

Afterward the country become the usual anti-Wakanda and a failed state.

As a farmer I would not have any hope. Probably if I was in the situation I would do one last stint, be a paranoid well-armed psycho for a while with night-vision goggles and heavy machine guns, then grow as much marihuana as possible and simply fuck off after the first harvest.

When the shit finally hits the fan, then nothing will be worth much anyway and no one will buy it. It will be like Europe during WWII - good luck trying to sell anything that is worth much while the killing is still going on.

In theory whites could unite under one banner, but that simply won't happen, because there are still too many SJW believers there, hopeful idiots, traitor elite like usual and dejected bottom-class whites. And of course any actual revolt would have to come down in a unified way with parts of the white military splitting off at the same time and the people trying to carve out some white territories with new borders.

Currently Whites are overnumbered 10 to 1, so it's possible to win if the difference in armament is not too big. But I see no way of success for this, because that splinter-group would get zero support by any country in the world and time would be running against them. So no - there is zero hope of armed conflict being in any way successful.

It will be death, more murders, more economic destruction, more confiscation, more poverty until a final economic collapse and likely murdering flashmobs running through the streets and beheading tens of thousands of Whites - women, children, men. That will be the final nail and legacy of the enlightened black leadership.

No matter who you are over there - get the fuck out of the country or live well-armed, with packed suit cases and an undercover exit plan always ready like some movie Al Pacino character.

The true Wakanda would be a shithole and South Africa is going there.

Luckily we have a recent and revelant model that will reliably predict the coming changes in South Africa.

Rhodesia --> Zimbabwe

If I was a white land owner in South Africa I would leave with only the shirt on my back and restart life somewhere else. No property or asset is worth dying for. Especially if you have a family, because they WILL NOT escape the carnage without you.

[Noir]

(02-28-2018 02:21 PM)gework Wrote:  

What's the situation with agricultural imports? I heard SA was pretty close to becoming a net importer if not breached that.

RSA's agricultural exports exceed the USD value of imports and the last stat put that at a $2 billion surplus.

Main imports were corn and chicken .
Main exports are wine, fruit, sugar and others.

Of course, the droughts since 2015/16 have seen a decrease in crop exports and given that the Western Cape is the main exporter of wine and fruit, the latest stats should be down. They even diverted water to the farms to go into the dams for civilian consumption.

Hence, we are expecting a rise in prices for local goods and with the ANC battling to weaken the rand for export purposes, the locals will probably pay the price and subsidize the exports.

I would like to see the statistics on the 'illegal exports', specifically on endangered species, animal products (ivory, rhino horns) which the previous State Sec Agency head, David Mahlobo was involved in, with the Chinese and Vietnamese.

The Chinese are massive buyers of animal products here, not just for their traditional medicine. The abalone exporting practice is massive here in the Western Cape despite being completely illegal. The demand is driven from China and you have all the colored gangs (The Americans & Mongrels mainly) who do late night dives off Hangberg (Hout Bay) all the way down past Hermanus.

The abalone is then stored and illegally exported through the ports (which the Sexy Boys and some Jewish gangsters run) for the Chinese and traded for Methaqualone, the primary ingredient in Mandrax; popularized by Wolf of Wall Street as Quaaludes. The reason being that China is the only mass producer of this substance and the demand in South Africa is massive, dating from apartheid when it was used as a latent crowd control substance. We actually have the finest 1970s quality Mandrax here, made in the townships in JHB and spread out to other regions.

The sheer financial value of this underground market is massive. I know people on both sides, those who are conservationists who have received death threats and bigtime poachers (not your gang members, white collar corporates) who are facing 18 years in prison and they echo how it's impossible to curb this industry.

Then you have the Chinese trawlers who turn off their radar transmitters at night and empty the Indian and Atlantic shores of fish, simply because of the insatiable demand and insane pollution of their coasts. They don't heed to anyone and a lot of the time, the coastguard is instructed to turn a blind eye or take bribes, so it continues.

(02-28-2018 12:54 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Honestly I cannot only imagine one way how South Africa will go down. Whites will be pushed ever more back until the country collapses economically, the very rich flee with their clothes on the their backs and the majority gets slaughtered in one final bloodbath.

Afterward the country become the usual anti-Wakanda and a failed state.

As a farmer I would not have any hope. Probably if I was in the situation I would do one last stint, be a paranoid well-armed psycho for a while with night-vision goggles and heavy machine guns, then grow as much marihuana as possible and simply fuck off after the first harvest.

When the shit finally hits the fan, then nothing will be worth much anyway and no one will buy it. It will be like Europe during WWII - good luck trying to sell anything that is worth much while the killing is still going on.

In theory whites could unite under one banner, but that simply won't happen, because there are still too many SJW believers there, hopeful idiots, traitor elite like usual and dejected bottom-class whites. And of course any actual revolt would have to come down in a unified way with parts of the white military splitting off at the same time and the people trying to carve out some white territories with new borders.

Currently Whites are overnumbered 10 to 1, so it's possible to win if the difference in armament is not too big. But I see no way of success for this, because that splinter-group would get zero support by any country in the world and time would be running against them. So no - there is zero hope of armed conflict being in any way successful.

It will be death, more murders, more economic destruction, more confiscation, more poverty until a final economic collapse and likely murdering flashmobs running through the streets and beheading tens of thousands of Whites - women, children, men. That will be the final nail and legacy of the enlightened black leadership.

This is the problem with the media. You're either getting the SJW narrative or the far right 'white genocide' agenda. The reality of the situation is that in metropolitan areas, it's not so bad. The only problem is the crime which for the most part is non-violent.

The most violent areas of South Africa are 100% black or colored and the murder rates are so high that they aren't even documented half the time.

Ramaphosa is the best option currently because he is a businessman who understands the importance of South Africa receiving FDI. He was on the board of McDonalds, Coca Cola and Lonmin and has friends in powerful places. The problem is that he is stuck between a rock and a hard place; he has to appease his party members and this involves illogical chess moves such as the ones we are discussing right now.

The EFF is the real problem because they are purely there to incite hatred against the whites. Julius Malema will want to be president one day and is looking at how he will be re-accepted into the ANC after being shunned for promoting racism in the ANCYL (youth league) and forming his own party.

Now, to absorb the extra votes (as per my OP), the ANC would need to follow a more socialist approach, even more than they already have.

As for your plan, it's a good one but the odds are stacked. You need a black person around if you're a farmer, simply because of the sheer amount of effort to produce. The CBDs are shitty but ultimately the 'safest' for preserving your life.

That being said, a lot of whites are waking up to the fact that we are on a slippery slope and looking for escape routes. Their main focus shouldn't be to arm themselves because they are all ex-military and special forces; hell, most of the mercenaries in the world are South African.

The problem is political where they need to obtain refugee status.

In theory, it should be easy as they are skilled and easy to integrate, unlike Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan etc.

In reality, we don't live in a rational world and identity politics is strengthening.

Ironically, the South African subreddit is one of the better places for news and completely anti-SJW.

Here is a red pill video from a group mobilizing as you prescribe:

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I get it, that many areas in South Africa are not beset by constant daylight murders. I even had family living in South Africa, but they moved away quickly preferring to settle in Canada - and that was in the 1980s.

But anyone having even some remote realization of reality should know that this situation is highly unstable. The likelihood of rampaging killing flashmobs is immensely high. The anti-White hatred is being fueled not only by the local media and politicians, but by every bloody Hollywood movie and international social justice doctrine - even a movie like Black Panther has a butt-load of that crap embedded in it.

The very best thing that South Africa could hope for will take decades - and it is the Chinese slowly but surely taking over that continent including South Africa. Though currently it's still going on slow - it will accelerate in the future with tens of millions of Chinese being moved and huge military contingents being deployed. But that may happen in force only past 2040 or 2050. So it does not make much sense waiting for that, since not even your property is safe until then.

And immigration to Europe or the US should be a no-brainer. The West could take in the entire White South African population with no hickup. Who knows - when the European wars with Islam begin, then some Eastern European countries might fund the relocation of everyone from South Africa - the firepower will be sorely needed and at least Europe is salvageable.

[Montrose]

Talking about China, my Chinese friends are very worried about Mr Xi’s last move: unlimited mandates for him. They fear a ‘second cultural revolution’.
I think their fear is misplaced but it’s probably something to watch.

[amity]

(03-01-2018 03:26 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I get it, that many areas in South Africa are not beset by constant daylight murders. I even had family living in South Africa, but they moved away quickly preferring to settle in Canada - and that was in the 1980s.

But anyone having even some remote realization of reality should know that this situation is highly unstable. The likelihood of rampaging killing flashmobs is immensely high. The anti-White hatred is being fueled not only by the local media and politicians, but by every bloody Hollywood movie and international social justice doctrine - even a movie like Black Panther has a butt-load of that crap embedded in it.

The very best thing that South Africa could hope for will take decades - and it is the Chinese slowly but surely taking over that continent including South Africa. Though currently it's still going on slow - it will accelerate in the future with tens of millions of Chinese being moved and huge military contingents being deployed. But that may happen in force only past 2040 or 2050. So it does not make much sense waiting for that, since not even your property is safe until then.

And immigration to Europe or the US should be a no-brainer. The West could take in the entire White South African population with no hickup. Who knows - when the European wars with Islam begin, then some Eastern European countries might fund the relocation of everyone from South Africa - the firepower will be sorely needed and at least Europe is salvageable.

Yes, they are really weaponising Science now against native Europeans, the anti-white narrative is really getting ramped up.
This clip is at times unintentionally hilarious and at times disgusting, almost everything in this video is literally the opposite of reality, and has been totally debunked, but CH4 will never follow up with the actual facts on this.
Nonetheless, this is how you brainwash people who are aged thirty and above (most people below that age don't watch TV much, instead they get their info and entertainment from YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc and their news they get from short clips posted on social media).
https://www.channel4.com/news/afua-hirsc...onse-in-me

[nomadbrah]

At what point does the rest of the world just say, fuck it, you had your chance Africa.

And going back and taking over?

If you can't keep it, then it isn't yours, particularly not when you're dead set on turning your country into a murderous shithole.

[Aurini]

(02-23-2018 05:58 PM)Elster Wrote:  

Had heard something about how Sargon and Thunderfoot threw our own Aurini under the bus on that gamergate thing...

This was back in the Spring of 2015, the second time my erstwhile business partner decided to blow everything up in a fit of pique.

The political disagreement was that I hold to set principles, while the moderates who took over Gamergate wanted convenient ideas that bolstered their egos (narcissistic supply). The sociosexual explanation is that Thunderf00t is a creepy Gamma, and I'm able to get laid.

Regardless; Thunderf00t took it as an opportunity to launch an attack on me, accusing me of being a Neo Nazi by quoting me out of context (the SJWs had just done this to him, and attacking me was a coping mechanism for the recent death of his father), and Sargon - whom I'd just sent an early version of the film to, which he had reviewed positively - put his finger in the wind, and decided it was more convenient to side against me. His excuse was that I had "lied" to him by not disclosing my partner's ongoing contentiousness - his insane rants, his refusal to respond to emails, and his baseless accusations. In other words, I was putting a positive face on a partnership that had some internal flaws that I was trying desperately to patch.

Guess what, pal? Not airing dirty laundry in public is not "lying", it's called being civilized.

While he was putting his finger in the wind, we were still friends on Skype (in fact, we still are). He never once bothered to contact me about any of it - though I did write him to apologize for the shit storm starting right after he reviewed the early draft of the film. I believe my ex-partner used that good PR as an excuse to bitch about me, claiming I didn't have the right to show it to Sargon.

Yeah, sorry for generating good buzz while you were pouting, buddy.

(The real reason was that I'm friends with Roosh, and evil guys like Roosh steal all the women from the "true alphas" like my ex-partner.)

He was recently in contact with me, hoping that I would "See the light" that the ethnostate is an impossible idea (it is, mostly, I've been frank about this). But he still refuses to apologize. Until he does, I have a punch in the face saved up for him in the Bank of Aurini. Nothing fancy, just something to make a believer out of him.

He was a major leader of Gamergate who refused to acknowledge his responsibility to his audience. He was demanding ethics in games journalism - but didn't behave ethically on his own YouTube channel. Quite frankly: the guy's just another mid-wit YouTube narcissist, stealing ideas from others, and saying what's popular. Of course you agree with him - he cribbed all his ideas from guys like me, Roosh, Heartiste, et cetera (he was a regular commenter on my channel before he got popular). But he lacks a core guiding principle.

Forney (and others) will back up everything I just said.