[Blackwell]

(11-13-2015 07:16 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Live stream just said 100+ people killed inside the concert venue, jesus christ.

Oh my lord. I feel ill.

[TigerMandingo]

(11-13-2015 07:07 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

You can stop all immigration tomorrow and that will help but that's not going to do anything about the millions already there. I actually know moderate French Muslims that are no different than any of us. They may give lip service to religion, but live pretty secular. They drink, go out clubbing, listen to the same music we do, work and live their normal lives and do whatever anyone else does. I hate seeing them all lumped in with these ISIS crazies.

This may or may not be true. I relayed a story on the forum about a "moderate" Muslim I worked with who basically said the Charlie Hebdo attacks were justified. So, yea not all of em are going out with AK-47's and shooting up Parisian restaurants, but I can't help but think that they tacitly support this kind of shit.

[Troll King]

The radio guy who CNN interviewed after he escaped the Bataclan concert hall said that he saw at least 25 dead bodies and a lot more wounded. He said when they started firing into the crowd everyone got down on the floor with their hand on their head. He said that because he was a radio reporter he was closer to the stage and after a few minutes, he said they fired for 10 minutes and reloaded 4 or 5 times each, he and several other people got on or around the stage and found an exit behind the stage.

He said he grabbed a young woman/girl who was wounded and got her to a taxi and told the taxi to take her to the hospital.

When he was telling Wolf Blitzer this, he mentioned that he still had friends and co-workers who were inside hiding in a closet or something and texting him about how they were still shooting people.

Apparently there is some hashtag where French people are opening their houses and apt. to other French people stuck on the street.

How many places were attacked?

Do we have a comprehensive list yet? I know about the stadium with suicide bombers, the restaurant, and the rock concert.

I have seen a comment or two on reddit and twitter about the Louvre and possibly one or two other places.

I fear there will be a huge body count from this. It almost always seems to double by the next day when reports are confirmed and wounded individuals die from their injuries. We could be looking at several hundred dead and even more wounded.

Be safe guys.

[kaotic]

(11-13-2015 07:17 PM)Blackwell Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 07:16 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Live stream just said 100+ people killed inside the concert venue, jesus christ.

Oh my lord. I feel ill.

They said these mother fuckers were THROWING explosives on the concert attendants.

I'm imagining the Inglorious Bastards scene where the 2 Americans shoot all the Germans on the first floor from a second floor balcony.

I'm fucking enraged right now. This just throws more shade on me and family since I've got facial hair and look Arab but I'm not.

[samsamsam]

(11-13-2015 07:17 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 07:07 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

You can stop all immigration tomorrow and that will help but that's not going to do anything about the millions already there. I actually know moderate French Muslims that are no different than any of us. They may give lip service to religion, but live pretty secular. They drink, go out clubbing, listen to the same music we do, work and live their normal lives and do whatever anyone else does. I hate seeing them all lumped in with these ISIS crazies.

This may or may not be true. I relayed a story on the forum about a "moderate" Muslim I worked with who basically said the Charlie Hebdo attacks were justified. So, yea not all of em are going out with AK-47's and shooting up Parisian restaurants, but I can't help but think that they tacitly support this kind of shit.

Was that self identified moderate or someone you know (seems like you work with him/her) and you think he or she is moderate. And if he or she was really a moderate would he or she say something so inappropriate?

[zuma]

A friend of mine with his wife was at the metal concert, he managed to escape.
It's a massacre my godness.

[Blackwell]

(11-13-2015 07:20 PM)Troll King Wrote:  

How many places were attacked?

Do we have a comprehensive list yet? I know about the stadium with suicide bombers, the restaurant, and the rock concert.

Be safe guys.

I believe it is 7 different locations.

[ed pluribus unum]

(11-13-2015 07:17 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 07:07 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

You can stop all immigration tomorrow and that will help but that's not going to do anything about the millions already there. I actually know moderate French Muslims that are no different than any of us. They may give lip service to religion, but live pretty secular. They drink, go out clubbing, listen to the same music we do, work and live their normal lives and do whatever anyone else does. I hate seeing them all lumped in with these ISIS crazies.

This may or may not be true. I relayed a story on the forum about a "moderate" Muslim I worked with who basically said the Charlie Hebdo attacks were justified. So, yea not all of em are going out with AK-47's and shooting up Parisian restaurants, but I can't help but think that they tacitly support this kind of shit.

We don't know yet but there's a very good chance the perpetrators here are French born and raised (by which I mean physically within the borders of France).

Don't recall where I read this, but "The radical muslim wants to behead you, the moderate muslim wants the radical muslim to behead you."

[mikado]

(11-13-2015 07:21 PM)Blackwell Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 07:20 PM)Troll King Wrote:  

How many places were attacked?

Do we have a comprehensive list yet? I know about the stadium with suicide bombers, the restaurant, and the rock concert.

Be safe guys.

I believe it is 7 different locations.

Co-sign.

[Onto]

(11-13-2015 07:15 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 07:07 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 06:59 PM)Repo Wrote:  

What can France do without a mass deportation? Hell at this point even that wouldn't be enough.

I actually know moderate French Muslims that are no different than any of us. They may give lip service to religion, but live pretty secular. They drink, go out clubbing, listen to the same music we do, work and live their normal lives and do whatever anyone else does.

Someone else made the comparison of devout Islam to a form of fascism. This is a reasonable notion. The Iraqis and Kurd that I met in the sand box claimed to be serious Muslims, prayed often, didn't drink, minded some other observances; otherwise they broke some serious ethics like watching porn or smoking.

Extremist Islam is like a shackle on the moderate population; due to the foundational organization of it, it's almost impossible for moderates to differentiate themselves from the extremists without endangering themselves as apostates. Couple that with theocratic law emplaced in many "moderate/secular" Islamic countries, and you'll see that it's much like Big Brother. Devout Muslims don't even need to be present to maintain an Islamic theocracy. The Pillars of Islam and Sharia are so tightly confined that a lawyer may have well written them.

I don't know how this will cause the future to pan out. Hope for the best I guess.

The Islamic fundamentalists claim to be morally superior to the West. This claim is really their Achille's heal. People in those countries don't sin because they constantly have the threat of the sword at their neck so their morality is a false one.

True morality is when you're free to sin without the threat of death, and you choose not too anyways.

[Frekkesen]

The globalist will go to the streets and march together against prejudice of Islam before one week has passed.

[zuma]

A guy made himself exploded near the stadium. Hopefully, the game was not even finished, but there is some causalities and many injured people.
From what they say, in other places, guys just got off cars and started to shoot with AK47 to people at terrace ...

[Cheetah]

(11-13-2015 07:20 PM)Troll King Wrote:  

The radio guy who CNN interviewed after he escaped the Bataclan concert hall said that he saw at least 25 dead bodies and a lot more wounded. He said when they started firing into the crowd everyone got down on the floor with their hand on their head. He said that because he was a radio reporter he was closer to the stage and after a few minutes, he said they fired for 10 minutes and reloaded 4 or 5 times each, he and several other people got on or around the stage and found an exit behind the stage.

He said he grabbed a young woman/girl who was wounded and got her to a taxi and told the taxi to take her to the hospital.

When he was telling Wolf Blitzer this, he mentioned that he still had friends and co-workers who were inside hiding in a closet or something and texting him about how they were still shooting people.

Apparently there is some hashtag where French people are opening their houses and apt. to other French people stuck on the street.

How many places were attacked?

Do we have a comprehensive list yet? I know about the stadium with suicide bombers, the restaurant, and the rock concert.

I have seen a comment or two on reddit and twitter about the Louvre and possibly one or two other places.

I fear there will be a huge body count from this. It almost always seems to double by the next day when reports are confirmed and wounded individuals die from their injuries. We could be looking at several hundred dead and even more wounded.

Be safe guys.

What do you mean by stuck on the street? Has parts of Paris got physical barriers?

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

Apparently one of the terrorists has been arrested by French police. Claimed allegiance to ISIS.

Can anyone confirm from French media?

EDIT: Euronews now reporting total death toll at 150+ and likely to rise. This would make today the deadliest terrorist attack in a Western nation since 9/11.

[Blackwell]

(11-13-2015 07:20 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 07:17 PM)Blackwell Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 07:16 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Live stream just said 100+ people killed inside the concert venue, jesus christ.

Oh my lord. I feel ill.

They said these mother fuckers were THROWING explosives on the concert attendants.

I'm imagining the Inglorious Bastards scene where the 2 Americans shoot all the Germans on the first floor from a second floor balcony.

I'm fucking enraged right now. This just throws more shade on me and family since I've got facial hair and look Arab but I'm not.

Yeah I mean thats essentially it isn't it? This just isn't meant to happen. This is shit from a film. I'm so pissed.

Got a feeling its Russia or London next. Yet they are fucking cutting the anti terrorism budget here? It's all just absurd.

But yeah I feel you brother. That really sucks. I don't know that theres much you can do about it. You know in your heart the kind of people you and your family are. I hope nobody gives you any shit.

[Akwesi]

(11-13-2015 07:25 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

Apparently one of the terrorists has been arrested by French police. Claimed allegiance to ISIS.

Can anyone confirm from French media?

EDIT: Euronews now reporting total death toll at 150+ and likely to rise. This would make today the deadliest terrorist attack in a Western nation since 9/11.

Actually 191 died in the Madrid bombings in 2004. But this may have been surpassed tonight.

[El Chinito loco]

(11-13-2015 07:23 PM)Onto Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 07:15 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 07:07 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(11-13-2015 06:59 PM)Repo Wrote:  

What can France do without a mass deportation? Hell at this point even that wouldn't be enough.

I actually know moderate French Muslims that are no different than any of us. They may give lip service to religion, but live pretty secular. They drink, go out clubbing, listen to the same music we do, work and live their normal lives and do whatever anyone else does.

Someone else made the comparison of devout Islam to a form of fascism. This is a reasonable notion. The Iraqis and Kurd that I met in the sand box claimed to be serious Muslims, prayed often, didn't drink, minded some other observances; otherwise they broke some serious ethics like watching porn or smoking.

Extremist Islam is like a shackle on the moderate population; due to the foundational organization of it, it's almost impossible for moderates to differentiate themselves from the extremists without endangering themselves as apostates. Couple that with theocratic law emplaced in many "moderate/secular" Islamic countries, and you'll see that it's much like Big Brother. Devout Muslims don't even need to be present to maintain an Islamic theocracy. The Pillars of Islam and Sharia are so tightly confined that a lawyer may have well written them.

I don't know how this will cause the future to pan out. Hope for the best I guess.

The Islamic fundamentalists claim to be morally superior to the West. This claim is really their Achille's heal. People in those countries don't sin because they constantly have the threat of the sword at their neck so their morality is a false one.

True morality is when you're free to sin without the threat of death, and you choose not too anyways.

Another reason the moral superior claim is completely bogus is that the elites of even the hardline muslim countries engage in grotesque debauchery when given the resources. They have a slave/master mentality that's a holdover from the medieval period. If put in a position of authority they tend to view everyone "beneath" them with utter contempt and disdain.

This is why Genghis Khan didn't fuck around with the caliphates. He immediately burned them down and killed all the royals first when they disrespected him.

[Libertas]

(11-13-2015 07:25 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

Apparently one of the terrorists has been arrested by French police. Claimed allegiance to ISIS.

Can anyone confirm from French media?

EDIT: Euronews now reporting total death toll at 150+ and likely to rise. This would make today the deadliest terrorist attack in a Western nation since 9/11.

Pretty easy to see coming, unfortunately.

Now we see who did it. I heard it going around that it was al-Queda, not ISIS.

But we'll see.

[Vienna]

Absolutely shocked.

What will happen when the shock and grief wears off and anger sets in among the French and fellow Europeans? This feels like an event that could spark a paradigm shift in social and political consciousness.

[Hades]

We can expect a lot of mental gymnastics and media circus in the coming days and weeks about how the attacks weren't related to ("fundamentalist") Islam.

[Chaos]

Fucking hell.

Eagles of Death Metal were the band at the Bataclan concert hall tonight.

I got tickets and I supposed to go to their show in Holland next weekend on a festival.
Insane!!

[Libertas]

Quote:

Absolutely shocked.

What will happen when the shock and grief wears off and anger sets in among the French and fellow Europeans? This feels like an event that could spark a paradigm shift in social and political consciousness.

On its own it wouldn't, but it's just a big culmination of this idiotic globalist liberalism that's accelerated in the past five years.

I'm sort of reminded of the situation that led to the outbreak of the Thirty Years' War....

And throw in some shades of the French Revolution on top of that...

[Dusty]

The Bataclan Massacre.

[zuma]

112 deads in Bataclan so far. It will get even worst in couple of times.
1500 soldiers mobilized in Paris.

[Peregrine]

Shit like this makes me want to carry concealed. If I have to go, I want to go shooting back. Not crawling on the floor waiting to be hunted down.