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The Red Pill by Cassie Jaye

About this project

What we’re doing.

We’re here on Kickstarter trying to raise finishing funds for our feature documentary “The Red Pill”. We’re all done filming, we have well over 100 hours of captivating footage, we can see the final film in our mind’s eye; however, we just don’t have the funding to get to that finish line, so we need your help!

Why we’re doing it.

This film was born out of Cassie Jaye’s curiosity to meet the Men’s Rights Activists, but what she didn’t expect was to be taken on a life-altering journey where she would never see the world the same way again. The original “why” was “why not?”, but the “why” became: because we have to share this incredible journey!

(more on kickstarter page)




WB. Love her pornstar name.

(****TRIGGER WARNING****)

Big Red makes an appearance.

[Foolsgo1d]

I always see this redhead in threads and on other websites but I am not really aware of her past. Who is she and what made her into such a thundercunt?

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(10-13-2015 12:46 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

I always see this redhead in threads and on other websites but I am not really aware of her past. Who is she and what made her into such a thundercunt?

Know Your Meme

[Oz.]

I'd throat fuck this bitch into another universe

[samsamsam]

(10-13-2015 01:41 PM)Oz. Wrote:  

I'd throat fuck this bitch into another universe

Do it before she gets fat. I have not seen any other picture of her. But she looks like a cute southern girl who is going to balloon up.

[Duke Castile]

We should all donate 2 cents so we can leave a comment haha

[AneroidOcean]

Watched the trailer. It's interesting, I'd like to see it when it is released. I worry that her "own personal journey" will be a big focus of the movie as opposed to objective discourse on the issues.

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

(10-13-2015 12:46 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

I always see this redhead in threads and on other websites but I am not really aware of her past. Who is she and what made her into such a thundercunt?

[AnonymousBosch]

Ignore it. Let it happen.

Any reaction, and she rakes in the Victimbux and Media Attention.

Just say 'Meh'.

[Sexus]

Cassie Jaye: WA (Would Approach) in a heartbeat.

The Film: it looks intriguing. I hope CJ's "life-altering journey" will ultimately bring her (and others) a better balance. Twenty-eight days (menstrual cycle length) of funding left to go with 4k in her kitty as of now. I need to find out more about CJ before possibly throwing some greenbacks down. Does she have an OKC profile?

[Rush87]

If they already have the footage I can't understand a kick starter [Especially another 90k]. Documentary film making is amongst the easiest to edit [Which is all they would require money for] and if it's an engaging story they don't require a kick starter for distribution. That would all be done via a distributor interested in the project.

From the footage it really is professional grade work. The red pill message seems to be positive. I'm just at a loss as to what they need to fund? If it's editing I know many people including myself who would do it for free [My only guess is that the archival footage rights cost a fortune].

[Last Parade]

(10-13-2015 05:13 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Ignore it. Let it happen.

Any reaction, and she rakes in the Victimbux and Media Attention.

Just say 'Meh'.

Well the problem is this, appears at first glance, as not being virulently anti-MRA. So there's no victimbux opportunity there. Any cries of "misogyny" from her, whether real or feigned, would be met with "well she deserves it for supporting RAPE ADMIRERS!"

[Ivan_]

Gotta love the good dose of big red, It's fucking awesome!

[Brodiaga]

(10-13-2015 12:34 PM)Game_Started Wrote:  

Big Red makes an appearance.

Wow, I bet she could fit a horse's dick in this mouth.

Having said that, WNB

[Sexus]

(10-13-2015 04:29 PM)Aquiles_Baesta_Parada Wrote:  

I always see this redhead in threads and on other websites but I am not really aware of her past. Who is she and what made her into such a thundercunt?

Totally beyond the pale. Good to see others just looking at her calmly and like "wtf?".

[Paracelsus]

Any shithead who on their kickstarter page doesn't want to reveal any of the conclusions she had is offering a Trojan Horse. This is an attempt to pull money out of the MRA crowd by superficially looking like she's supportive of their causes, but I predict the film will be edited in such a way as to make them look fucking foolish and end with a statement "Well, I've seen both sides, but the feminist rebuttals convince me!"

Do not support. This thing is an epic troll. Her prior record includes a "documentary" (read: advocacy) for same sex families.

[samsamsam]

The wisdom of Paracelsus should not be ignored.


If she didn't break down how the money is to be spent it could be some of it is going to her. I've seen a bunch of kickstarters where the movie makers thought they should get paid. Which is fine but at least be upfront about it.

[Hades]

She is asking for 100k to make a documentary.

I don't think that's a terribly unreasonable asking price. I do think that she probably works a regular day job and might have unpaid staff managing her shit (i.e; gender studies or theater major interns) and that a third of this 100k is going straight to her student loan bill.

On the upside, she's definitely taking her time with it (two and a half years of research? why?), but depending on the backers she's accepting, she's going to have to inject a feminist slant into it or risk alienating the only people who are likely to drop coin on it (internet armchair feminist activists).

[samsamsam]

Two and a half years could make some of that footage irrelevant. 100k and she has already shot all of the it and just needs to edit it? Unless she is putting a bunch of animations and graphics that post production budget is too much. Unless some of it will be used for p & a or she wants to four wall it because no distributor thinks it is good enough to get a theatrical release.

[Speculation]

(10-13-2015 08:27 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Any shithead who on their kickstarter page doesn't want to reveal any of the conclusions she had is offering a Trojan Horse.

This is quite possibly the case. The 9 minute preview seems fairly balanced on the face of it, although as one redditor put it, its suspicious that the segments with MRAs have music provoking uncertainty, while the feminist segment music is calming and reassuring.

See for yourselves:

[eatthishomie]

From the looks of this trailer, her film is called "The Red Pill" but:

- she doesn't interview any actual Red Pill authors or personalities
- she gets TRP and the MRM mixed up
- she doesn't describe any actual Red Pill philosophy (male self-improvement, sexual strategy, Game, AFBB, hypergamy, the true nature of women, etc.)
- she presents it from a feminist viewpoint - see above point about the music presented for the MRM personalities vs. the feminist personalities - even though feminists have advocated genocide for real and no one in TRP or the MRM has.

Honestly, part of me doesn't really have much of a problem with this. I kind of like TRP, the manosphere, and male self-improvement being something you have to seek out and find, and have an open mind and a willingness to put real work in to be, and if a chunk of people are misled by this documentary, oh well. I know it's wrong on some level but it's how I feel.

[Speculation]

To be fair she started the project before /r/TheRedPill blew up on reddit, back when the manosphere only had 3 real branches; MGTOW, MRA and PUA.

Also, the AVoiceForMen MRA site had 'Take the Red Pill' as its site motto for years.

These days 'Red Pillers' have a fairly well defined ideology that differs from the other branches of the manosphere, so there's some confusion on why the doco is called The Red Pill when its about MRAs.

You can see the MRAs getting concerned at being equated with Red Pillers below:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comm...k_preview/

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We're all aware of that. The problem is that a great many people after watching the documentary may google "The Red Pill" and end up (first result) on a website that is rather sexist if not downright misogynist, thus "proving" the points made by feminists in the film itself. ... It is frankly disrespectful to MRA's that she chose the title she did, given the propaganda war against us.

[Hannibal]

I'm with Paracelsus on this one. She wants to get a bunch of guys to foot the bill with the expectation that she'll deliver what we want.

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Last updated: Mon, Oct 12 2015 12:37 PM CDT
Which side are you on?
You will have to wait to see the feature film to know the conclusion that the filmmaker comes to, but what we can tell you is that the filmmaker does come to a conclusion; however, it doesn’t mean that the filmmaker’s conclusion will be the viewers’ conclusion.

Feminists have had 50 years to sugarcoat their ideological turds, there's no way they'll softball any real red pills into a movie that, at the start of it, has no concept of what a red pill is supposed to be, especially if the movie is directed by a feminist.

Nah, it's probably more subversion. They'll give the mra guys some token lines and then counterpoint their (likely) watered down arguments with some feminist duckspeak to look like they're trying to meet somewhere in the ideologically safe middle ground. Just the fact that the movie is called The Red Pill and they saw it necessary to put feminist rebuttals in it tells you everything you need to know.

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From meeting men's rights activists (MRAs) and hearing their personal stories, to feminist rebuttals, to very personal quarrels between the filmmaker and interview subjects, this film is a roller-coaster ride through the current day ‘Gender War’.

[PolymathGuru]

(10-13-2015 12:34 PM)Game_Started Wrote:  

Big Red makes an appearance.

Every time I see a picture of her, I am reminded of my mother minus the red hair. That is how I became red pill at a young age and before Roosh even conceived of the idea.

[Biologist]

I'd be really interested to know if this documentary ends up being a proper, unbiased documentary or just another anti-male propaganda piece.