[Samseau]

Where the fuck was this dude's parents??

[Vacancier Permanent]

^^ most importantly, where was his father?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The interaction is straight out evil. Many teenagers think about suicide at one point of their lives, but only few carry it out.

She essentially pushed him to do it and pestered him for weeks.

And now she and her family thinks that she did not do no anything wrong. That's tantamount to Stalin saying that he did not kill anyone - the 30 million people starved and died due to unfortunate circumstances or by the hands of others.

Manipulation of fragile individuals - especially something of that magnitude over weeks is cold and straight psychopathic.



Their little angel is a murderer to the second degree. Those were not some angry words or actions that pushed someone over the ledge. That is pure manipulation.



What is interesting in this case is also the response of the people. Some of the authoritarian SJWs want even tighter laws - they want to force people to help and have to call suicide hotlines every time someone mentions suicide online. Also they seem not to see anything wrong with it to some degree.

For fucking sake - is it so difficult to understand the difference between a few mindless statements on social media like: "Go kill yourself." and an actual manipulation over weeks where someone guides a vulnerable person into suicide?

Good is evil and evil is good - also Lucifer is now the good guy and helps mankind solve crimes - we live in perverted times.



If that bitch goes free, then you can literally throw away any expectation for justice in the current legal system.

[mater]

(08-29-2015 06:30 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The interaction is straight out evil.

She essentially pushed him to do it and pestered him for weeks.

And now she and her family thinks that she did not do no anything wrong. That's tantamount to Stalin saying that he did not kill anyone - the 30 million people starved and died due to unfortunate circumstances or by the hands of others.

Manipulation of fragile individuals - especially something of that magnitude over weeks is cold and straight psychopathic.

Their little angel is a murderer to the second degree. Those were not some angry words or actions that pushed someone over the ledge. That is pure manipulation.

For fucking sake - is it so difficult to understand the difference between a few mindless statements on social media like: "Go kill yourself." and an actual manipulation over weeks where someone guides a vulnerable person into suicide?

If that bitch goes free, then you can literally throw away any expectation for justice in the current legal system.

Her face and her eyes show just selfish murderous evilness.

She saw him as an omega, and she considered that pushing for killing him
will be something that will make her famous.

[Phoenix]

Things like this are a valuable lesson about human nature. Too many people associate 'dominance' as being a physical thing - the whip and the shackles, the gun, the muscular torso and veiled threats of violence.

But far more insidious and powerful is psychological and intellectual dominance. Evil minds and their clever verbal tricks, can make people kill themselves, kill others, become their slaves or their pawns, without them having to lift a finger of their own. This is a great example of the pure Leftist instinct - the lust for power over others, executed by communication alone.

[samsamsam]

(08-29-2015 10:54 AM)scrambled Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 03:45 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

I tell ya it always interesting the angles of pics make such a difference. Granted, she has probably gained weight but the side angle is scary. Sort of sinks in.

Sometimes, no angle or lighting can save the day.


image post

She has a big head and then narrows down to the chin. Plus she is smart (evil) so MegaMind pic for the win. Where do I collect my prize?

[void]

(08-30-2015 10:52 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 10:54 AM)scrambled Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 03:45 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

I tell ya it always interesting the angles of pics make such a difference. Granted, she has probably gained weight but the side angle is scary. Sort of sinks in.

Sometimes, no angle or lighting can save the day.


image post

She has a big head and then narrows down to the chin. Plus she is smart (evil) so MegaMind pic for the win. Where do I collect my prize?

[samsamsam]

shit... maybe void wins.

[Karaya]

Michelle Carter Article

The article says:

Quote:

Joseph Cataldo, the attorney for 18-year-old Michelle Carter, of Plainville, told a judge Monday that prosecutors are punishing his client for her speech.

The New Bedford Standard-Times reports that Cataldo said Carter at first tried to discourage 18-year-old Conrad Roy III from killing himself and even tried to get him help by suggesting he join her at McLean Hospital, a psychiatric facility where she was, but he refused.

It wasn't until later that Carter became "brainwashed" into assisting Roy with plans to take his own life, Cataldo said, according to the paper.

What is meant by brainwashing? However, the speech argument is considered invalid. Speech can lead to crime.

The next court date is schedule for Oct 2.

[Barn25]

The fact everything is coming out as far as the evidence goes is problematic. If this ever goes to trial the defense attorney of hers could try and say potential jurors from her hometown will be less than impartial.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Send her to Columbia University, say the whole thing was a feminist art project. Then she'll not only get off, but get all-important course credit.

[Foolsgo1d]

I could laugh at how ridiculous this is because it is a slam dunk case of manipulation but the very real fact she could be free to do this again makes you bitter, cynical and angry that another family could lose their son/daughter to her.

Her words are poison.

[WanderingSoul]

I read the text messages and that's some vile shit. That's a very sick and dangerous little girl. She needs to be locked away for a very long time.

[Barn25]

Anyone get the info from the court date that happened on the 2nd?

[Dalaran1991]

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/2.../151139984

Apparently the case is continueing until January.

Her defense attorney SJW seems to be willing to move heaven and earth to save her. He said he would "appeal to the entire high court" if he has to.

I simply can't understand what kind of malice or misbeliefs a man must have in order to defend an abomination like this girl. He probably thinks he will win big brownie points with the SJW which are plagueing the legal system, and then promote his career.

I simply cant understand whats going on in Western society. If this happens in Vietnam (and it did, the girl didn't even assist the guy, she was simply NOT preventing him from suicide, and still got 20 years), that girl would face either life imprisonment or death sentence. More importantly, before the law even get there, his parents would come tear her limb from limb.

Where the hell is this boy's parents in the whole story? Why dont I see an angry father and a call for vengeance?

[Paracelsus]

(12-04-2015 07:50 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Where the hell is this boy's parents in the whole story? Why dont I see an angry father and a call for vengeance?

Supposedly they didn't know he was carrying on a relationship with the girl: http://www.inquisitr.com/2386839/conrad-...d-lawyers/

Quote:

Conrad Roy III was supposedly Michelle Carter’s “boyfriend” since 2012, and she even organized suicide prevention fundraisers. But Roy’s friends claimed they had never heard of Carter, and the Roy family says they were not aware that Conrad had a girlfriend at all.

“I didn’t even know who she was,” said Louie Pina, a friend of Conrad. “She was just like a random face. She was talking to me and my friends like there was nothing wrong. I’ve been thinking about that nonstop. I don’t know how someone, after knowing what they did, could play it off like they did nothing wrong. And how someone can organize an event in his name, claiming to have all this love for him, knowing they were a big part of why he did what he did.”

But that said, their silence and in particular the father's silence is deafening. Maybe they've been told by the local cops to say nothing for fear of inflaming a jury against her which would give her an automatic point for appeal. That said - the text messages also indicate she knew he was in 'therapy' which didn't help him, so again another point against the shitty psychiatric system in the US.

[Barn25]

Anyone have any info on this case? I hate to necro an old thread, but no-one has posted anything on this.

[eatthishomie]

WHF (would hatefuck)

[Barn25]

Theres an update on the case, where she is appealing to the MASS supreme court. Her lawyer is a scumbag saying its just speech
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2...helle.html

[spokepoker]

(03-08-2016 11:19 AM)Barn25 Wrote:  

Theres an update on the case, where she is appealing to the MASS supreme court. Her lawyer is a scumbag saying its just speech
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2...helle.html

Quote:

Michelle Carter was bubbly, athletic and an attentive student. Conrad Roy was a Red Sox fan from a boating family, with a 3.88 GPA; his loved ones nicknamed him Coco.

Now, he is dead and she is facing manslaughter charges, in a suicide case whose combination of lurid details and legal knottiness has led to national attention and an upcoming hearing before Massachusetts' highest court.

Carter stands accused of involuntary manslaughter for a series of text messages that encouraged Roy, with whom she had a romantic but largely online relationship, to kill himself. He did so with carbon monoxide in a Kmart parking lot in 2014. And over a year later, the case is still unsettled, with Carter's attorney making a free speech argument that will be heard before the Supreme Judicial Court in May.

With the case in limbo, new details have emerged in a feature on the case by New York Magazine, including interviews with Roy's family and Carter's school classmates.

Roy, whose grandfather owned a tugboat company, earned his captain's license at age 18, New York Magazine reported. A Mattapoisett native, he struggled with anxiety and depression, and was hospitalized for a acetaminophen overdose at age 17.

Carter, who attended King Philip Regional High School, was a bubbly, popular athlete, classmates told New York Magazine. She was named "class clown" and "most likely to brighten your day" in school superlatives. But friends also suspected she suffered mental illness of her own, telling New York Magazine that she had made oblique references to time spent at McLean Hospital, a Belmont psychiatric facility.

Roy and Carter had met years ago on vacation in Naples, Florida. As court documents show, they communicated and professed their love through a prolific stream of text messages, but rarely met in person. Roy's family told New York Magazine they only knew of a couple of meetings, and Joseph Cataldo, Carter's attorney, told MassLive last year that the relationship was almost entirely digital.

Carter's legal battle continues to inch its way toward a resolution. More than two months after defense attorney Joseph Cataldo filed an appeal seeking the dismissal of the case, Supreme Judicial Court Justice Margot Botsford made her decision last month -- one that does not bring the matter closer to an end.

Botsford referred the case to the full Supreme Judicial Court and is targeting a May hearing, according to her Feb. 1 ruling. At that hearing, the court will decide whether the manslaughter charge against Carter can go forward, whether Carter should be charged as a juvenile or whether the case should be dismissed entirely.

Cataldo has maintained that however tragic Roy's death, his client has committed no crime and should not be charged as an adult.

"This is clearly just speech," Cataldo said in a courthouse interview in November, "There was no physical action taken by Michelle Carter in connection with the death. It was just words alone. And words alone need to be a true threat in order not to be protected by the first amendment."

The criminal case has stretched on for nearly a year. Carter was charged with involuntary manslaughter in February of 2015. In September Taunton Juvenile Court Judge Bettina Borders rejected Cataldo's motion to dismiss the charge, allowing the case to move forward and for Carter to be charged as a "youthful offender" -- a status that allows harsher punishments than typical juvenile cases and for court files to be open to public inspection. Free speech, Borders ruled, does not extend to encouraging suicide.

Cataldo then filed an appeal to a single justice of the state Supreme Judicial Court and the district attorney's office filed a response in November.

The lengthy proceedings could make prosecutors' jobs more difficult, according to South Coast Today. If the Supreme Judicial Court rules that Carter should be tried as a juvenile, her trial must begin before her 20th birthday on Aug. 11, 2016. Prosecutors said in a court hearing Tuesday that such a time frame could limit their ability to prepare for the case, South Coast Today reported.

In early December the Bristol County District Attorney's office denied a request from MassLive for the prosecution's response to the appeal, saying that it referenced grand jury minutes and was a sealed filing.

Roy drove from his mother's house to a Kmart parking lot in July, 2014. He started a portable engine inside the cabin of his truck, and left it running until he died of carbon monoxide poisoning. A trail of text messages, released in an unsealed indictment, show that Carter encouraged him to kill himself, and urged him to follow through when in his last minutes he exited the truck, afraid of dying.

Prosecutors allege that Carter led a campaign of encouragement that directly led to the death of Roy, who had graduated from Old Rochester Regional High School that June.

"Carter assisted Conrad's suicide by counseling him to overcome his doubts," the indictment reads. "Her counsel took the form of positive direction, where she told him he was 'strong' enough to execute the suicide plan and would be happy once he was dead."

The text messages included in court filings show Carter, in between professions of love, advocating for suicide as Roy's best option after an extended period of depression. "It's painless and quick," she wrote in one text. "Everyone will be sad for a while but they will get over it and move on," she wrote in another. She urged him not to delay the act, and advised him to find alternative methods of producing carbon monoxide when it became clear his truck's diesel engine would not work.

The prosecution has portrayed Carter as an active participant in Roy's death -- one who, after the fact, pretended to have no knowledge of the plan. She texted with Roy's relatives, asking where he was in the hours before his body was found in the Kmart parking lot.

[samsamsam]

It is funny when it comes to women. Oh it is just freedom of speech. But when comments are made against a female. Wow holy fuck that is a crime - law or no law. Fucking cunts.

[Splord]

(02-07-2016 12:50 AM)eatthishomie Wrote:  

WHF (would hatefuck)

If she truly is guilty she doesn't deserve even that...

[King of Monkeys]

If Lassie found this bitch in a well, she wouldn't say shit.

[Splord]

(03-08-2016 11:07 PM)King of Monkeys Wrote:  

If Lassie found this bitch in a well, she wouldn't say shit.

She would probably shit in the well too.

[King of Monkeys]

(03-09-2016 03:42 PM)Splord Wrote:  

(03-08-2016 11:07 PM)King of Monkeys Wrote:  

If Lassie found this bitch in a well, she wouldn't say shit.

She would probably shit in the well too.

I'd be in favor of putting her at the bottom of a well and having everyone in town stop by, squat over, and let a steaming pile drop below. There would be Indian food stands and a hardworking, legal mexican immigrant selling prunes to people standing in line to help things move along.