[Laner]

(11-04-2015 01:50 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Been thinking more about Bosnia, Albania, Slovakia, and Montenegro recently.

Anyone have experiences with friends or yourself wiving or dating these girls long term? They seem like the non-status monger version of UA and Russian chicks, and non-slut versions of Polish, Czech, and Hungarian chicks relatively speaking.

I dated a Bosnian Muslim who I am still in touch with now, and based on her and her friends I would say its a good shot. Also similar demographics in Montenegro, more Catholic I believe, and is a very beautiful place.

Albania would be tough one, it seems far more Muslim than Bosnia which seems quite split between Islam, Orthodox and Catholic. I cant say much about the women.

Slovakia is also awesome.

[Russianbrother]

If you want non status Russian chicks, then don`t go to major cities like Moscow for that.

Russia is simmilar to some Asian countries now, where girls from big cities think they are the "shit" now, because they can drink some coffe in Starbucks.
It is not what it once was after the fall of Soviet Union, but still there is still alot of wife material left there.

For wife material it is as everywhere in Asia, you need a social circle, some basic language understanding and time.

You also need to understand that Russia is big, and there are hundreds of different minorities living in Russia. That means that you can find muslims, asian and other girls which has the effect on the level of their morality.

Basically you need to move out of all "Wanna be a Rockstar" cities like Moscow and St. Petersburg to smaller cities, and you even don`t have to ride very far. Even in a city 50km away from Moscow, girls have completely differend mindset.

Also don`t expect to find wife material in 1-2 weeks, not a single decent woman is going to fall all over you in such a short period of time.

Bars and discos are not the best place to look for one but also not as bad as they are in Asia or major cities. Finding there a good girl is actually realistical. Some of them work on shit jobs like accountants for peanats, and go to relax to such clubs to feel less shit in their life. So in Small cities it is good option if you know what to look for.

Usually such girls are not alone but in groups with friends, wearing some shitty clothes like grandmother or like in the 80`S.
But not Bitch style shitty, but really like old woman style.

That means that she is not used to go out often and has no style trained trought hundrets of interactions. She just tryies to mimic some girls or what she saw on tv.

Else go to standart locations like Parks,Shops and so on.


Don`t forget about cock blocking, in small cities you will see alot of angry dudes squating in front of you in some shitty addidas pants and a god damn leather boots and maybe even a sako on them. You have to be a macho in such cases, because by the standart in Russia foreigners are seen as pussies, especially Americans.


So that is it, no need to complain about spoiled girls when you know that you are fishing in a pond in which hundreds of dudes pissed long before you came to Russia.
You have to go out and find a fresh one, before it gets gifted aswell.

[chochemonger1]

Tinder and Facebook have changed the game everywhere. I cant go to the Amazon jungle or the Siberian tundra, without being reminded of it.

[GranMarnier]

(11-11-2015 07:38 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Tinder and Facebook have changed the game everywhere. I cant go to the Amazon jungle or the Siberian tundra, without being reminded of it.

I agree that Tinder and Facebook have changed the game in "most" places however there are still many off the beaten path places that don't have very good access to internet in Latin America, Africa and Asia. What most people here should be worried about is when Facebook and Google actually implement their "free internet scheme" which is a bunch of unmanned drones flying 24 hrs a day to give access to people with internet who either cannot afford it or infrastructure is not possible. Once facebook and the like are truly global and every man, woman and child has access to the internet then good luck finding a good wife. I estimate about 10 years max before this happens, so my advice is anyone looking for reasonable wife material has about 10-15 years before things get even worse than they are now.

[chochemonger1]

(11-11-2015 09:25 PM)GranMarnier Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 07:38 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Tinder and Facebook have changed the game everywhere. I cant go to the Amazon jungle or the Siberian tundra, without being reminded of it.

I agree that Tinder and Facebook have changed the game in "most" places however there are still many off the beaten path places that don't have very good access to internet in Latin America, Africa and Asia. What most people here should be worried about is when Facebook and Google actually implement their "free internet scheme" which is a bunch of unmanned drones flying 24 hrs a day to give access to people with internet who either cannot afford it or infrastructure is not possible. Once facebook and the like are truly global and every man, woman and child has access to the internet then good luck finding a good wife. I estimate about 10 years max before this happens, so my advice is anyone looking for reasonable wife material has about 10-15 years before things get even worse than they are now.

Yes I am trying. The only hope is those few places where almost no one knows English and is so off the beaten path, without any obesity And where you mostly date 18 to 24 yr. olds. I am betting on Uzbekistan.

[solo]

There's a lot of things I'd like to comment on in this interesting thread but I don't have the time right now. Just saw this though:

(10-02-2015 02:36 AM)Travesty Wrote:  

Fourth thing, I hope solo now has been redeemed from his 7 day ban and will join me in Colombia so I am sure to get enough approaches in on 18 year olds.

LOL I'm here man. When are you coming? And where in Colombia are you planning to go? (Didn't read the whole thread)

[WashedUPVet]

(11-11-2015 07:06 PM)Russianbrother Wrote:  

Also don`t expect to find wife material in 1-2 weeks, not a single decent woman is going to fall all over you in such a short period of time.

I'm two months into my 10 month hunting trip into Moscow. It takes time to meet nice girls for sure. I have a great 19 yo girlfriend now (I'm 34) that took 6 weeks to lay. She has almost no online presence and it took social circle to meet someone like this. After dating for almost 2 months, she finally told me that she was "scared of me" at first which I thought of as a good thing as she probably thinks of other men the same way... but the first time her friend introduced me, I was pretty hung over from Gipsy Bar . I agree with all you said except that if you look hard enough, there are non status girls in Moscow. Sure there are a lot of them though. The thing I like about Moscow girls is that they do have a level of sophistication that I think may be hard to find in lower tier areas.

[Courage Reborn]

^how are you finding life & game in Moscow during the cold season?

[samsamsam]

(11-15-2015 11:29 AM)Kissinger2014 Wrote:  

'Love Me,' an interesting, but at times heart-breaking, documentary on mail order brides from Ukraine:

http://www.lovemethedocumentary.com/index.html

I watched it on Netflix. I would recommend it especially for people who are thinking about traveling to Ukraine/FSU for the first time.

I took Kissinger2014’s suggestion and watched the doc. It had good stories and bad stories. I won’t give much away but I thought it was reasonably balanced. However, the director made some judgemental comments about the guys that were kind enough to let him film their story, but what would you expect from an SJW. That was sort of lame to stab the guys in the back as they were willing to share their stories.

If you get the chance have a look. Don’t get me wrong some had good endings, well at least what was shown in the video. There was some touching moments where one the gals gets her visa and leaving her family. It seemed very authentic.

I grabbed a couple of clips. Mainly just as a warning. None of the guys on the video were in good shape (except one older guy who I think was using steroids or something – nothing wrong just pointing out the details, he is 57). Any guy that has taken advice from this forum should be in a better position than these guys.

Pay attention to how much he has spent, outside of travel costs.
http://sendvid.com/6g7ld9nd


This guy got married to this girl, she stopped responding so he flew back to find out what was going on. Notice her body language and they never have been intimate, not even on the wedding night. WTF?
http://sendvid.com/1uwi1clq

[PeruLover12]

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[samsamsam]

You'd be surprised who does end up with a wife and pops out babies. I am not saying the women they get are hot but way better than what the fat slobby guys merit. Not trying to be mean. But if you look at the people in the doc, there is a noticeable difference.

http://www.lovemethedocumentary.com/characters.php

[PeruLover12]

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[samsamsam]

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[Rocha]

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[Mentavious]

Haha, I watched that doc and it's very entertaining.

There was this one guy who was acting all high and mighty. Five minutes beforehand he was listing several things that were red flags. One of them was not buying girls gifts or sending them money. So he finally gets his first date with a hot 23 year old. They then pick up later in the night with him telling the camera man that he took this girl shopping.
Dude didn't even get to have sex afterwards. This is also the same guy who had a paid threesome with some of the girls from the social events.

The man from Australia who got married in Bali has to be beta of the year.

These docs are high comedy.

[worldtraveler3]

Is there a free place to watch this?
I don't wanna pay for the iTunes version

[worldtraveler3]

Or did anyone just paid to watch it?
cant find it anywhere!

[samsamsam]

It is on netflix.

[262]

Depending on your country - which you can spoof - Netflix usually has free trials.

Google is your friend.

[worldtraveler3]

How do you spoof country?

[PeruLover12]

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[samsamsam]

The Aussie that Liguarian mentioned was in my second clip. When he flew back to Kiev after the wedding.

A couple of guys somehow managed to get into what seemed like decent relationships with babies being born at the end.

But some guys just got wrecked. The other clip I put up th guy was a soooooooo weak. He got raked over the coals.

The fittest guy of them all was 57 and he decided to go back and find an old hag in the U.S. If his attitude was better he would have done fine.

[PeruLover12]

^^ Haha yeah agreed

The fittest guy had a rant about the women being unfriendly which I translated as 'I did not get the attention I thought I would'. Probably thought his passport and T-shots were enough. I mean its impoverished Ukraine right, women will throw themselves at you!

[chochemonger1]

(11-20-2015 02:07 PM)The Ligurian Wrote:  

^^ Haha yeah agreed

The fittest guy had a rant about the women being unfriendly which I translated as 'I did not get the attention I thought I would'. Probably thought his passport and T-shots were enough. I mean its impoverished Ukraine right, women will throw themselves at you!

I am not so sure Russian or Ukrainian women can be so caring, Ligurian.
But you know Russian well. You know better than I.
That makes all the difference in the world, at least here in Brazil.

[chochemonger1]

Most young women don't want English. When you are rubbing their clitty they want to hear their native language.
In Ukraine almost the same as Brazil...but my Russian was not good enough to talk dirty.