[N°6]

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UK nightclub numbers nearly halved in 10 years, reports ALMR

Nearly half the UK's nightclubs have shut their doors in just 10 years, according to figures seen by Newsbeat.

The Association of Licensed Multiple Retailers (ALMR), which represents venues, says in 2005 there were 3,144 clubs and this is now down to 1,733.
Chief Executive Kate Nicholls reckons that in some towns "they are gone for good and we're never going to get them back".

But people like Rudimental have told us that clubbing trends "go in cycles".

The ALMR warns the closures will leave the UK worse off "culturally, socially and economically".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33...es-suggest

[Kingsley Davis]

Broads are getting their validation and attention whoring fix through social media.

[Disco_Volante]

Their growing population of Muslims don't attend clubs.

And for the rest, maybe they've realized chasing tail in anglo clubs is a waste of time.

[Luvianka]

Who wants to attend those places full packed of fat, tattoed, farting, drunk women? Oh, I forgot they call them 'ladettes'!

[N°6]

I find myself without sympathy for UK nightclubs:

*Staff treating people as prison inmates rather than customers;
*Horrendous gender imbalances
*Packing in people as much as the fire officer allows;
*Overpriced cover and drink charges
*Clubs tend to harm daytime businesses and neighbouring residences
*Dangerously loud music (shown to create anxiety and a sense of isolation to cause people to drink more) makes socialising impossible

[NewMeta]

(08-10-2015 01:33 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  

Who wants to attend those places full packed of fat, tattoed, farting, drunk women? Oh, I forgot they call them 'ladettes'!

Ha one of the reasons I stopped too, dont know why females here feel the need to act like lads on a night out, some of them are actually hot, it really confuses my boner.

[The Beast1]

Good, i'd like over half of the night clubs in America to collapse as well. I hate clubs.

Whatever happened to a laid back lounge atmosphere where the music isn't resonating with my chest cavity?

Remove cover charges and lower the price of booze. Anything less then they deserve what comes to them.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(08-10-2015 01:34 PM)N°6 Wrote:  

I find myself without sympathy for UK nightclubs:

*Staff treating people as prison inmates rather than customers;
*Horrendous gender imbalances
*Packing in people as much as the fire officer allows;
*Overpriced cover and drink charges
*Clubs tend to harm daytime businesses and neighbouring residences
*Dangerously loud music (shown to create anxiety and a sense of isolation to cause people to drink more) makes socialising impossible

The takeaway from this article is that guys in the UK seem to be wising up as far as women in clubs is concerned. The know that women are only there to attention whore and score free drinks from mugs who are prepared to indulge them, so they're voting with their feet and staying away.

[TheSlayer]

I know a few promoters around Toronto. They all say the same things.

"It's harder to get people out now more than ever".
"It's become pretty difficult to get girls out even with free cover and comped drinks".
"The bottles are becoming harder to sell".

In addition to gender imbalances, bitchy girls, and clubs becoming expensive (for the men), the City Council in Toronto is also killing a bunch of clubs by selling prime downtown land to condo developers. Combine that with a 2am last call and shitty transit it's not hard to see why the club industry is also struggling in Toronto. The nightclubs are also definitely going through a decline in Toronto and the surrounding areas.

[N°6]

(08-10-2015 01:37 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Good, i'd like over half of the night clubs in America to collapse as well. I hate clubs.

Whatever happened to a laid back lounge atmosphere where the music resonating with my chest cavity?

It sounds quaint nowadays but my parents (who are still together) met in one of those.

[Bobco]

I see it as a lack of discretionary income. Times are hard.

[Geomann180]

Fuck nightclubs anyway.

G

[Midlands Man]

No surprise here, if anything I thought more would have closed.

The effect of social media on changing society behaviour and inflating the values of all females has not even registered yet with main street.

Only sites like this understand the changes that have already happened.

[TigerMandingo]

(08-10-2015 01:34 PM)N°6 Wrote:  

I find myself without sympathy for UK nightclubs:

*Staff treating people as prison inmates rather than customers;
*Horrendous gender imbalances
*Packing in people as much as the fire officer allows;
*Overpriced cover and drink charges
*Clubs tend to harm daytime businesses and neighbouring residences
*Dangerously loud music (shown to create anxiety and a sense of isolation to cause people to drink more) makes socialising impossible

That to me is the biggest problem. I recently attended a concert in Boston where you had to go through metal detectors each time you left the venue. There was also a one-drink limit per attendee (something like $7 for a plastic cup of shitty beer) and there were dudes going around making sure people had those age wristbands on. Not to mention the music sucked ass (bunch of bands I'd never seen/heard before). Only reason I went was a cute girl and some mutual friends had invited me. I'm guessing a lot of it had to do with all this "Boston strong" bullshit and the city being on its toes after the bombing, but what a fucking joke nonetheless...

[N°6]

Has anyone considered joining a private members' lounge bar? There are a few of them appearing in my locality and they are more like the 1960s bar with networking.

[The Beast1]

Private lounges are where it's at. I was considering joining a Freemason Lodge. Not for picking up chicks, but for the networking and self improvement angles.

[Ethan Hunt]

I think I agree with Rudimental saying how they go in cycles. Many of the nightclubs that were around during the 90s had never adapted to changes in music tastes. So people migrated to clubs that did, losing trade for those that failed to adapt. That's part of the reason as to why they are becoming less popular, least based on number of clubs. Figures that showed annual attendance over a large period of time would be helpful to know. Example over 30 years so you can see the cycle that the businesses go through.

In the UK there is one particular bar that sells food throughout the day and in the evenings clear the tables and brings in a DJ that are very popular. Are these classified as clubs? I doubt it. The number of dedicated nightclubs may have decreased but more alternative venues have appeared.

Something worth noting though is the decrease in traditional pubs. Granted these establishments are for an older crowd but it is those citizens that have a larger amount of available disposable income. They've decreased by as much as 10,000. It is only natural that nightclubs would take a hit too. However the UK economy is strengthening and the government statistics are showing an increase in wages and as a by product and increased disposable income. It is only a matter of time that they will become more popular again.

This is just from a very crude economic perspective though.

[Deepdiver]

When I worked in the UK on an IT contract I was rather shocked to see no tipping - I tried to tip a one pound coin on a drink and the lad thought I was trying to get him in trouble with management.

We all know bit tits get big tips and clubs have a short one or two year lifecycle whereas pubs can last a lot longer... so no tipping means no hot chix bar tenders or waitresses... beer gardens were not too bad - they did say the private clubs that the ballers (futbollers) joined had the hottest chix though one night I had one too many Martinins and was in a two story warehouse type club with one of the hottest Stockholm looking blondes in a braless halter top, miniskirt and sexy high heels introduced herself and I was basically out of commission - go figure. Most of the men between Liverpool and Manchester hated each other due to futbol rivalries yet many spoke longingly about Stockholm, Sweden and its attractive women compared to Big Buxom Blighty British goers...

[Foolsgo1d]

whoa, a lot of assumptions here. Not to mention the fat laddette remark. Yes there are fatties but nothing like what you are led to believe.

The nightclub scene here has flaws, one of which the location has everything to do with it.

London

Bar the exception of high-end clubs the entry fee's are astronomical. In Corporation Sheffield I would pay £6 for a friday night entry. Same goes for Satans basement in Manchester.

London's average clubs would be £20 or more just for entry and at least £10 for drinks inside.

These places do not run on large profits and nightclubs being cyclical it will either close, become re branded or carry on at a loss.

Elsewhere

Bouncers in manchester and Leeds are a reason not to go to a place. They either deny you entry for clothing, for looking drunk, not liking you or basically because there are too few girls inside.

There is a step going up to a club in Leeds and I tripped on it slightly. Immediately upon getting to the front I am took aside and told I am drunk and should come back later. I was more coherent than sober people and knew it was bullshit.

This "too drunk" bullshit isn't where you are rolling over and your eyes look both ways, it is merely an excuse to prevent someone going in who wouldn't buy drinks and if you look like you have a buzz on you its game over if the bouncer doesn't like you.

Other factors

- Smart phones ruined it. Even the clubs I have mentioned have anywhere from 50-100 people or more glued to their fucking smart phones

- Tinder has had an impact on easy hookups. A girl could be all fucked out by the time its friday or she is chasing dick that night through other means and she is meeting him there or at a bar

- Less people. There are more people who through reasons of race, culture, religion or sheer hatred for clubs will not go to them. Every year you lose people and gain fewer.



In the end it doesn't really matter because things change. Girls will move to things like Tinder more often and lose the ability to meet guys face to face and get horny on the spot.

One advantage I love about night game is the opportunity to eye fuck each other, kiss and fuck afterwards. It'll be a shame for many guys growing up now to miss that because its a good part of growing up and becoming a man.

[ManVsMachine]

A slight contrarian perspective - I'm a fan of the UK music, and UK club music is far superior to the garbage Top-40/EDM churned out by the DJs in America. This is bad for the music scene across the globe, as the UK have been at the forefront in underground music for quite some time now. you might be surprised, especially my fellow Americans, but some people go to the clubs for the music.

[Surreyman]

(08-10-2015 01:25 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

Their growing population of Muslims don't attend clubs.

And for the rest, maybe they've realized chasing tail in anglo clubs is a waste of time.

I'm wondering if the prevalence of sexual harassment from gameless men of certain cultures is having an effect in London.

I've been out in London and seen this first hand. It wasn't 'caveman game' it was 'eve teasing'. Straight up IRT shit from the buses of Delhi.

I don't want to tar everyone from South Asia with the same brush, obviously it only takes about 5% doing this shit to make a problem.

[civpro]

[Guitarman]

I can't stand night clubs or the "music" they play. Close them all for all I care and replace them with good live music venues!

[SlickyBoy]

Main street kinda gets it:

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Millennials know that the special interest leisure activities that they’ve researched online are more likely to lead to finding suitable partners than drunken fumbles in a sticky-floored club. Or else there are dating sites.

Ross Williams, founder of dating group Venntro, says that the days of heading to a nightclub with the aim of meeting the partner of your dreams are long gone. “You might go to a club to dance with friends but not to meet new people,” he said. “I could be on the 6am train to Waterloo and my phone gives me access to far more suitable partners than I could ever find in a sweaty night club.”

Alas, the SJWs have to chime in and make it all about them:

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Sophie Wilkinson, news editor of women’s lifestyle website The Debrief, says that nightclub bouncers are often focused on preventing drunken fights rather than harassment of female clubbers. “I think websites such as Tinder provide a safer environment for women – it’s a bit easier to filter out any baddies if you are behind a screen.”

[Samseau]

The collapse in British nightclubs mirrors exactly what I said about the future of game here:

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For single young guys they are looking at a steep wall to climb. I wouldn't want to be a single young man at 18 today unless I was very photogenic for online game. For the other 95% of men, mass cold approaching won't be effective nor will most bar game unless he is willing to spend an ungodly amount of time mastering the cold approach against technology that is increasingly alienating people into virtual worlds. He's basically forced into social circle game to get above-average women which places him at the mercy of his SJW friends in school. He's fucked to try and do things like we once did, approach chicks at bars, clubs, or streets non-stop. Doing that in the future will probably just get you recorded by some dude's night vision smartphone then uploaded to facebook for people to blacklist you from other bars. The cockblocks will be virtual but they will still be real. All of this is a function of decreasing amounts of young women being pursued by an ever larger single-male demographic.

By the way, being recorded by some dude's smartphone at night?

The white knights and feminists are already doing it. Imagine what will happen as technology improves and feminist power increases? Obviously we can hope we are successful at curbing feminist power but if we fail the future is beyond bleak for men, gentlemen.