[cascadecombo]

(08-01-2015 03:32 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Are you telling me if a boner fide 10 was standing next to you you wouldnt offer her a seat? Yeah right. I know I would.

No way would I give up my seat just because some chick is a 10, she can sit on my lap tho. Or can get the beta dude next to me to give up his seat so I can hit on her when she plops down next to me.

[Comte De St. Germain]

My question being how long did this take you to write up and does this even matter? This was an insignificant event in your life and you'll forget this in a week.

There were an infinite amount of things you could have done instead of write this post. If you want to bitch and whine about irrelevant things do it on Facebook or your social media of choice.

[Bushido]

(08-01-2015 06:13 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 07:15 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

call me old school, but I hold doors to look at ass.

Getting out of my seat for a broad? no blanket rule.

Aeroplane?

You knew that you couldn't lift your carry on above your head when you left the house.

WIA

This is a bit off-topic, but I think bringing a carry on on a plane is one of the dumbest moves ever. I realize that some guys travel with testosterone, which needs to be stored at room temperature. That is the only legitimate excuse I have ever heard for bringing a carry on or the like.

I've got no idea what your issue is with this. Haven't you ever had to take more than the paltry 20kg checked baggage limit with you?

[cascadecombo]

(08-03-2015 12:34 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 06:13 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 07:15 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

call me old school, but I hold doors to look at ass.

Getting out of my seat for a broad? no blanket rule.

Aeroplane?

You knew that you couldn't lift your carry on above your head when you left the house.

WIA

This is a bit off-topic, but I think bringing a carry on on a plane is one of the dumbest moves ever. I realize that some guys travel with testosterone, which needs to be stored at room temperature. That is the only legitimate excuse I have ever heard for bringing a carry on or the like.

I've got no idea what your issue is with this. Haven't you ever had to take more than the paltry 20kg checked baggage limit with you?

Merenguero doesn't seem to ever use discount carriers to fly.

I don't even check luggage in anymore unless I'm flying back to the states or staying for more than 10 days. Who honestly likes waiting at baggage claim?

[JonJon]

(08-02-2015 10:34 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

My question being how long did this take you to write up and does this even matter? This was an insignificant event in your life and you'll forget this in a week.

There were an infinite amount of things you could have done instead of write this post. If you want to bitch and whine about irrelevant things do it on Facebook or your social media of choice.

Since there were an infinite amount of things you could have done instead of reply to this topic, I will entertain your valueless post to illustrate a point.

It took me all but 5 minutes to type the event as I recollected it. Arguably it was an insignificant event, but the implications and ideas that surround said insignificant event was worth discussing. Ideas like chivalry, male/female relations, entitlement, right/wrong, values, etc.

Three pages worth of posts, and several instances of anecdotal references, are evidence that this topic was not irrelevant. This topic helped to gather a sort of consensus on a chivalrous act, one that I see committed daily by men in my travels, one that is very relevant to any forum member who commutes via mass transit and has witnessed the same.

This topic cannot be irrelevant for you very post makes it relevant. Of the 2000+ views, there were only 53 replies. You could have easily saved your time and life energy by not typing up any words. You could have went on with your life, but of the infinite amount of things YOU could have done instead, you chose to bitch and whine.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(08-03-2015 02:12 AM)JonJon Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 10:34 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

My question being how long did this take you to write up and does this even matter? This was an insignificant event in your life and you'll forget this in a week.

There were an infinite amount of things you could have done instead of write this post. If you want to bitch and whine about irrelevant things do it on Facebook or your social media of choice.

Since there were an infinite amount of things you could have done instead of reply to this topic, I will entertain your valueless post to illustrate a point.

It took me all but 5 minutes to type the event as I recollected it. Arguably it was an insignificant event, but the implications and ideas that surround said insignificant event was worth discussing. Ideas like chivalry, male/female relations, entitlement, right/wrong, values, etc.

Three pages worth of posts, and several instances of anecdotal references, are evidence that this topic was not irrelevant. This topic helped to gather a sort of consensus on a chivalrous act, one that I see committed daily by men in my travels, one that is very relevant to any forum member who commutes via mass transit and has witnessed the same.

This topic cannot be irrelevant for you very post makes it relevant. Of the 2000+ views, there were only 53 replies. You could have easily saved your time and life energy by not typing up any words. You could have went on with your life, but of the infinite amount of things YOU could have done instead, you chose to bitch and whine.

Not really I actually enjoyed telling you it was meaningless. My act was a generous use of advice to tell you that typing up such a lengthy post on an inane topic is a waste of time. If I could affect the life of one person in a way that saves them more time in the future I've made all the difference. As time is a finite resource that through this advice might have saved for someone else if not you.


And for something like this if you wanted to discuss the merits of such an event an easier way to do it would have been to post in the forum lounge. What would be the merits of starting an entire thread that will be saved on the Internet for posterity like this?

[General Stalin]

(08-02-2015 10:34 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

My question being how long did this take you to write up and does this even matter? This was an insignificant event in your life and you'll forget this in a week.

There were an infinite amount of things you could have done instead of write this post. If you want to bitch and whine about irrelevant things do it on Facebook or your social media of choice.

What crawled up your ass? Not that OP is in need of any sort of defense, but this is a fine discussion and very relevant especially given this community. Thanks for letting us know how people should be spending their time.

I don't do shit for random women I wouldn't do for a random man as well. It's 2015 in America. Women are perfectly capable of hanging on to a fucking pole. they aren't seen as the weaker, fairer sex anymore so we shouldn't be treating them like it. Equality and all.

With that said, you need to have some social awareness and tact. If a family came into the train with grandmother and children in tow then I would offer my seat. Just seems decent.

[Tuthmosis]

(08-02-2015 10:34 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

My question being how long did this take you to write up and does this even matter? This was an insignificant event in your life and you'll forget this in a week.

There were an infinite amount of things you could have done instead of write this post. If you want to bitch and whine about irrelevant things do it on Facebook or your social media of choice.

3-day suspension for unprovoked attack.

(08-03-2015 09:13 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

What crawled up your ass? Not that OP is in need of any sort of defense, but this is a fine discussion and very relevant especially given this community. Thanks for letting us know how people should be spending their time.

Don't escalate ad hominem attacks by going back and forth. Just hit the report button and led a moderator handle it.

[Engineer]

(08-03-2015 01:36 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

I don't even check luggage in anymore unless I'm flying back to the states or staying for more than 10 days. Who honestly likes waiting at baggage claim?

I don't check bags myself, but always go to baggage claim just to stand around and offer to help women with their bags.

WOSTOP (would offer seat to old person)

[Hairz]

Once on a London underground some random woman came up and demanded the seat. I asked why and she's like "I'm pregnant". She didn't look pregnant and was in mid 20s. I said no and she started talking smack. I just said that stress is bad for the babies and put on my headphones. I could see the disppointed faces of people sitting around and some WK offered her a seat. I'd probably give in if she asked nicely.

[joost]

I just give my seat to old people and disabled. Fat people should keep standing and lose some calories.

Once I was in the bus and a fat slob was in the corridor with her belly practically touching my face, expecting me to give her the seat. I was so annoyed that after a few minutes I gave her my seat:

- Sorry lady, I didn't realized you're pregnant. I thought you were just fat. I'm sorry. Please, take my seat.

She became furious but swallowed her pride and took the seat since it must be horrible to be fat and keep standing for +10 minutes.



If somebody directly ask for your seat. Tell them they look healthy. If fat, they should stay standing for longer to lose weight. You're doing it for their "health"!

[Engineer]

(11-02-2015 08:43 AM)Hairz Wrote:  

Once on a London underground some random woman came up and demanded the seat. I asked why and she's like "I'm pregnant". She didn't look pregnant and was in mid 20s. I said no and she started talking smack. I just said that stress is bad for the babies and put on my headphones. I could see the disppointed faces of people sitting around and some WK offered her a seat. I'd probably give in if she asked nicely.

Good example - this is a teachable moment for the entitled. If/when this happens to me, I'll be ready with a long pause looking at her with disappointment followed by "Normally I would, but not this time because of your disrespectful and entitled tone" and if a polite one asks with a more submissive tone "I appreciate you asking nicely, here go ahead and have my seat" then if she's bangable start a conversation.

I have to reconcile this with my "compliment rarely" policy, but alongside shaming for bad behavior, I'd like to compliment on good behavior while maintaining aloof frame.

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(08-03-2015 01:36 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

I don't even check luggage in anymore unless I'm flying back to the states or staying for more than 10 days. Who honestly likes waiting at baggage claim?

I never check my bags either. Besides the hassle of waiting for your bag and the risk that it might not make it, you also can't move up on an earlier flight.

[CynicalContrarian]

I was raised to be chivalrous.
Yet, I was raised into a society that doesn't quite appreciate chivalry anymore.

So on occasion I'll be courteous to the elderly.
But for young women who no longer understand the purpose of chivalry, if not outright despise chivalry?

I don't do jack.

They wanted "equality"; & I'm fine to accommodate.
Careful what you wish for, you just might get it.


I even recall one occasion at a social event when an older / cougarish chick made a comment that no guys had taken her coat,
or hadn't offered to vacate a seat or some such.

So I just responded to her with a bit of a smirk - "don't look at me, I don't owe you anything."

She responded that she didn't expect to hear something like that.

[BassPlayaYo]

If I'm tired after walking many blocks, I give my seat to no one. If people are playing the head game as described by the OP, I give my seat to no one. Kids are better off standing than sitting, it makes their legs stronger, this is actually true for everyone young and old unless they're having a medical problem. When I think about these types of things I try to unwind the thread of tradition to find out exactly why one engages in the "socially" accepted behavior.

[mammal]

Whether she's a woman or man makes no difference.
I generally do for someone who looks like he/she needs it -- handicapped, very (not slightly) pregnant, holding baby in arms, elderly and needing it (not just white hair and in great shape) AS LONG AS I do not also need to sit down. I rarely use public transportation in the US but use it abroad, and after hours of walking, blisters on my feet I would not give my seat unless for someone with a MAJOR need.

Likewise, if going through a door I hold it for someone right behind me, open the door for someone carrying packages or a baby, and so on; again, regardless of the person's sex.

If someone had pulled that passive-agressive crap I would have pretended not to hear. Though I fantasize about pulling out my cell phone and having a loud imaginary conversation, describing someone who looks exactly like the annoyer, and how she gave me the best BJ I ever had. For the benefit of the children, I would explain that a BJ is a Brownie with Jelly.

[trawler]

I'm a bit surprised by the almost consensus here.

I love being old-school, Don Draper-style chivalrous, like 2 or 3 guys have mentioned on this thread. I totally get the 'don't pander to women' point, but that's not what I'm doing at all. I don't give women special treatment because they're entitled to it or I want them to like me. I give up my seat, hold doors, guide them across streets etc because I'm a man and they're women. To me, it entrenches the fact that men and women are different, and reminds them (in a good way) of the traditional way of life and gender roles that we all miss here. I give up my seat because I'm stronger than them - it doesn't bother me if I stand! Who cares? If they're weaker than me, take it.

I also open the door for dudes, and would have no issue giving a dude a seat if asked. If he's weak enough to need to ask another man for a seat, I feel bad enough for him already.

That said, I also just enjoy being a good bloke and treating people with respect. There's enough negativity in the world, no need to add to it and sweat the small stuff.

I don't particularly like the alpha-beta dichotomy that sometimes gets taken a bit far - but to me, giving up your seat (with the right mentality) as totally alpha.

These women described in the OP and London tube anecdote are vile beasts though. I'd never feed a beast like that.

[Dr Balex]

I will admit that I don't have a major in Game, however I don't think that you are decreasing your chances of get laid if you offer a woman your seat on public transportation. I personally, hopefully not erroneously, often have excesses of pride, maybe, of considering myself the stronger sex and therefore would not mind standing so that a woman may sit. I suppose you can see it however you like, but I find it to be a proof of strength more than one of weakness.

In regards to the allusions they were making, I would've replied about how amazing this position is indeed, smirk, stand and invite the child to have a seat. After that maybe chat with them.

[Dusty]

I'll give up my seat to a woman if there is a smelly hobo sitting next to me. Then when I'm standing at a safe distance, and I notice the look on her face when she catches wind of the hobo's shit soiled garments, I'll give her a smile and a wink.

[mammal]

Just want to add that it's quite presumptuous of the woman in the OP to expect a seat. You often can't tell jus by looking whether someone sitting has some physical problem (tired after long physical labor, cast recently taken off leg, recent leg surgery etc.)

Also, how someone asks for aseat (orany other favor) influences how I react. Passive aggression makes me far less likely to do anything. Ditto for loudly saying "where's (the subway, baggage claim, the dairy section.)" "Excuse me," "please," or a combination there of will have me help people new in town, tourists, etc. Otherwise, they get a shoulder shrug or "I dunno."