[el mechanico]

I'd hold out just because of the strangeness of the situation. I've gone out with all types of crazies for entertainment.

[MrXY]

Goddamn it, this thread is pissing me off. After she slapped and cussed you, you should have taken her by the scruff of the neck and thrown her out like a dirty stray cat.

I do like 456's idea of inviting her back just to use her as jack off material though, that would be funny as hell, and at least partially redeem you.

[Vincent Chase]

Jesus Christ.

[456]

removed

[JohnQPublic]

Some girls don't put out. So if you want a keeper maybe this is her. If she is calling you all the time, you're in. Who knows why she doesn't like sex, but there are some things to do. Number 1 in this situation is invite her on a vacation/romantic weekend. This is do or die. Three possibilities:

1) she says yes and you make out with her, take her home and it's done
2) nothing happens and you give her another 2-4 weeks. Now she knows you are a good guy. So you can say, I really like you but ... then she can decide
3) she says no and you're done.

Two girls 8 and 9 told me they went from your situation to marriage with this plan. Worked out as (1) or (2).

[Brodiaga]

^FFS it's a single mom, not some virgin Swedish top model we are talking about.

Romantic weekends and vacations for this ho? Hell no.

Pulling out your dick and jerking off on her + escalating fast + either bang or get lost? Hell yes!

[CactusCat589]

(06-30-2015 03:25 PM)JohnQPublic Wrote:  

Some girls don't put out. So if you want a keeper maybe this is her.

NO. I'm 99% sure you missed the part where he said this was a single mom.

As Saint Francis of Assisi once said, "Just say no to single moms in their 30's."

[JohnQPublic]

dupe

[JohnQPublic]

(06-30-2015 03:30 PM)CactusCat589 Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 03:25 PM)JohnQPublic Wrote:  

Some girls don't put out. So if you want a keeper maybe this is her.

NO. I'm 99% sure you missed the part where he said this was a single mom.

As Saint Francis of Assisi once said, "Just say no to single moms in their 30's."

OP says he is holding out for the bang, so I think he is serious. Otherwise, see if she lets you lick her pussy and 90% she won't stop if you can start.

[Sonoma]

Hold out for it if you don't mind the blue balls.

But it super fucking weird and I would probably asshole escalate to get her to see that you want the poon. Kick her out when shes too drunk to drive and see if she folds

[Simeon_Strangelight]

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/...e-bracket/

She wants to lock you down and is playing "guard my pussy" games - maybe even read it somewhere.

Be lucky to be the special one having to wait for what others got within minutes a few years ago.

As Rollo Tomassi once said: "Usually when a woman lets you wait, then it's not worth the wait."

I have met with massive last minute resistance with some young girls in Eastern Europe - plenty of making out and no fucking. But that was one night at the most. Next time she came over there was deep fucking.

Anything else is unacceptable. She is either not so much into you, playing stupid mind-games, is disturbed herself or she has problems far beyond what can be seen. In any case it is not worth the energy.

[RougeNoir]

Update: She's hit me up the past two days with the same shit, "what are you doing." I had to get up very early so I just went to sleep by myself the first night. I went on a date (drinks + appetizers) last night with an Ghanian Liberian 8/10 mix. During the date, I received a text from her, "what are you doing" then after I didn't respond, she sent another one, "where are you, I need you." I'm maniacal enough to keep entertaining this shit for the Native American flag/notch.

[el mechanico]

(07-02-2015 09:37 AM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

Update: She's hit me up the past two days with the same shit, "what are you doing." I had to get up very early so I just went to sleep by myself the first night. I went on a date (drinks + appetizers) last night with an Ghanian Liberian 8/10 mix. During the date, I received a text from her, "what are you doing" then after I didn't respond, she sent another one, "where are you, I need you." I'm maniacal enough to keep entertaining this shit for the Native American flag/notch.

Text back: Busy see you later ok.

Don't send anything else post how she responds and do NOT respond to whatever she says.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(07-02-2015 09:37 AM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

Update: She's hit me up the past two days with the same shit, "what are you doing." I had to get up very early so I just went to sleep by myself the first night. I went on a date (drinks + appetizers) last night with an Ghanian Liberian 8/10 mix. During the date, I received a text from her, "what are you doing" then after I didn't respond, she sent another one, "where are you, I need you." I'm maniacal enough to keep entertaining this shit for the Native American flag/notch.

To be honest - if you want to get the notch, then just be openly blunt about it.

Just call her and tell in no uncertain terms, that you think she is playing some kind of holding out Games. It is all fine and well, but you believe that you don't really get to know a woman before sleeping with her. You are not the kind of guy to have 100 dates and 1.5 year courtships. Those times have long gone and as a single mother it is obvious that she is no virgin from 1850.

It's not pressure, it should be put out just as a fact. So she has the option of either coming over for a few drinks, some food and some good sex or you just call it a day and never see each other again. Either way it's fine.

She will probably try to shame you into trying to pressure her or give you some other bullshit pretense. Don't fall for those shit-tests. You are a man and dating has changed from the 18th century.

Of course I am not advocating to move a woman like that to anything else than a fuckbuddy status. She actually disqualified herself even for LTRs a long time ago in my opinion.

[Ice]

(06-30-2015 03:25 PM)JohnQPublic Wrote:  

Some girls don't put out. So if you want a keeper maybe this is her. If she is calling you all the time, you're in. Who knows why she doesn't like sex, but there are some things to do. Number 1 in this situation is invite her on a vacation/romantic weekend. This is do or die. Three possibilities:

1) she says yes and you make out with her, take her home and it's done
2) nothing happens and you give her another 2-4 weeks. Now she knows you are a good guy. So you can say, I really like you but ... then she can decide
3) she says no and you're done.

Two girls 8 and 9 told me they went from your situation to marriage with this plan. Worked out as (1) or (2).

Dude JohnQPublic, what are you talking about, get outa here.

Why reward this shitty behaviour

What should he invite her to a five star hotel over the weekend? lol

[Helium1]

Man this is very blue pill- I would dump her right away. This slut stopped riding the cock- carousel and she's now looking for a beta provider to give her money.

[el mechanico]

(07-02-2015 06:06 PM)Helium1 Wrote:  

Man this is very blue pill- I would dump her right away. This slut stopped riding the cock- carousel and she's now looking for a beta provider to give her money.

It's an entertaining grey area. That's all.

[RougeNoir]

Today she says, "what are you doing." I say, "grabbing food. what did you mean when you said you needed me?" She says, "just what I said." I say, "you needed me a kill a roach? What did you need me for?" She says, "shut up. I needed you to be a pillow like you always are." I said, "well, you're out of free pillow with me. We either fuckin' or fuckin', sweet darling." She says, "I hear you." I say, "let me know when you ready for some high quality action. :android kiss:"

So she thought I was a beta male all the time. We'll see if she responds if ever and if not then fuck it.

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

(07-02-2015 09:22 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

She says, "shut up. I needed you to be a pillow like you always are."

Jesus Christ on a bicycle!

[Brodiaga]

Dude, just fuck the bitch already

[RougeNoir]

(07-02-2015 06:06 PM)Helium1 Wrote:  

Man this is very blue pill- I would dump her right away. This slut stopped riding the cock- carousel and she's now looking for a beta provider to give her money.

Do you even have game bro to be calling shit blue pill?

[GlobalMan]

So this 30 y/o single mom of two is an 8/10? There are very few 30+ women, who have had multiple children, and are an 8/10. They are celebrities with the best nutritionists, trainers and surgeons. And even then we're talking very few. But thats just my observation.

[RedPillUK]

(07-02-2015 10:08 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 06:06 PM)Helium1 Wrote:  

Man this is very blue pill- I would dump her right away. This slut stopped riding the cock- carousel and she's now looking for a beta provider to give her money.

Do you even have game bro to be calling shit blue pill?

Do you even have game bro to be a human pillow for a single mother of 2?

Don't go asking for advice for your blue pill dilemma, and then get upset when others call it what it is.

[Dalaran1991]

(07-02-2015 09:32 PM)Aquiles_Baesta_Parada Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 09:22 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

She says, "shut up. I needed you to be a pillow like you always are."

Jesus Christ on a bicycle!

Pillow game recognized



I might not bang a girl, but I sure as hell never let a girl to tell me to shut up, jokingly or seriously.

To each his own I guess.

[LAX]

You are brave to post that text exchange here. I sure every member felt some sort of anger rising from reading that.

Reviewing it, it obvious:

- she feels like she owns you - in her mind her value is much higher than yours and you are glad to have her
- your response came from a weak place ('either fucking or fucking' sounds needy and desperate)
- her response to you sounds like she doesn't think you are good enough to bang

What you should have done is sexualized the conversation HARD and said something like "this pillow is going to cover your mouth, bend you over, pull your fucking hair and give you the fucking you need babygirl".

Would this work? Hard to say given the prior damage but at least it would shift the frAme and re-establish your masculinity.

Initially when reading this thread, like el mech, I was amused by this bitch and the situation. Could've been interesting pulling her into different emotional situations, but it is clear you were too thirsty to adopt that mindset.

Having said all that - I'll give you this. I know where you are coming from. I used to work with a chick like this. Some girls have that thing where they are like black widows, they are ingenues that know how to manipulate men - they have this personality that makes you want to hate- fuck them because they are so manipulative in an alluring way. Your game need to be en pointe with those types of hoes otherwise you fall into a chasing mindset.

I hope I'm wrong but most likely your situation is not going to workout. If there is more contact, be less thirsty and act like the prize and for fucks sake don't let her get away with disrespectful behaviour.