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Quote: (06-21-2015 11:05 AM)DannyAlberta Wrote:
Couldn't watch past the thunderous applause from the audience for Barry Saunders. People in modern North America are just bloody robots now. They'll scream "Hell yeah, socialism!" without realizing any of the consequences of what that would actually mean. For example, if Saunders was president you can forget having tickets to go watch Bill Maher. His program would be illegal.
Quote: (06-21-2015 11:32 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:
It's depressing to think that kids don't just like the idea of freebies, they actually believe it will bring prosperity. Don't these kids have parents to deprogram them? My brother has to set his kids straight every weekend. It's something their mother should be doing every day after school, but that's a different conversation.
Quote: (06-21-2015 01:36 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:
should be free education for stem fields with the caveat that drop outs/fail outs will be billed.
Quote: (06-21-2015 01:49 PM)samsamsam Wrote:
Quote: (06-21-2015 01:36 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:
should be free education for stem fields with the caveat that drop outs/fail outs will be billed.
I could live with that. With one more caveat that they don't go to Wall Street. I have no problem with people trying to make as much as they can. I just don't see the value of providing free education to those going into professions that pay incredibly well. And that have no problem recruiting.
Quote: (06-21-2015 11:32 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:
Quote: (06-21-2015 11:05 AM)DannyAlberta Wrote:
Couldn't watch past the thunderous applause from the audience for Barry Saunders. People in modern North America are just bloody robots now. They'll scream "Hell yeah, socialism!" without realizing any of the consequences of what that would actually mean. For example, if Saunders was president you can forget having tickets to go watch Bill Maher. His program would be illegal.
It's Bernie Sanders but yeah, kids online (Maher's audience) go bonkers for that dude. And what's not to like?
Free college
Free housing
Free food
A "living wage"
Any debt will be wiped clean
???????
Prosperity!
It's depressing to think that kids don't just like the idea of freebies, they actually believe it will bring prosperity. Don't these kids have parents to deprogram them? My brother has to set his kids straight every weekend. It's something their mother should be doing every day after school, but that's a different conversation.
Quote: (06-21-2015 01:28 PM)samsamsam Wrote:
I am not a fan of a free college education. It just raises expectations of what else should be free. If you take on debt etc then you are forced to be responsible about your choices. However, on the other side of the coin there are so many BS colleges that exist because they straddle kids with debt and since the kids can't BK college debt no on gives a fuck about fucking kids over. Not everyone needs to or deserves to go to college.
I have read high school kids whine about an hour of homework a day. Think an hour of homework in college is going to help you learn anything meaningful or useful? Not in any STEM degrees. Maybe in womans studies.
Quote: (06-21-2015 09:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
Free college will also never happen because it devalues the product. People now treat college like BMWs or houses in swanky neighborhood. It's a status symbol.
If you make it free, that won't be the case. People might talk about wanting free tuition, but if it was, then they'd have to find something else to brag about.
I don't think it's a coincidence that college tuition has gone through the roof just as the female population at colleges exploded. Colleges now function, to a large degree, as finishing schools for upper middle class girls.
Quote: (06-21-2015 10:57 PM)Deluge Wrote:
I sent this to a "progressive" girl I know, she actually thought it was hilarious.
Quote: (06-21-2015 10:57 PM)Deluge Wrote:
I sent this to a "progressive" girl I know, she actually thought it was hilarious.
Quote: (06-21-2015 09:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
Free college will also never happen because it devalues the product. People now treat college like BMWs or houses in swanky neighborhood. It's a status symbol.
If you make it free, that won't be the case. People might talk about wanting free tuition, but if it was, then they'd have to find something else to brag about.
I don't think it's a coincidence that college tuition has gone through the roof just as the female population at colleges exploded. Colleges now function, to a large degree, as finishing schools for upper middle class girls.
Pretty much all other Western countries have free or cheap tuition, and also have majority female schools. It's exactly the same there though, I'm not sure the price tag has much to do with it being a status symbol or a finishing school for upper-middle class girls, which I agree it is especially in the useless majors. The more prestigious the university the more people brag and the more it is assumed they are wealthy, even though it is so affordable. It's universal.
Quote: (06-21-2015 09:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
Quote: (06-21-2015 01:28 PM)samsamsam Wrote:
I am not a fan of a free college education. It just raises expectations of what else should be free. If you take on debt etc then you are forced to be responsible about your choices. However, on the other side of the coin there are so many BS colleges that exist because they straddle kids with debt and since the kids can't BK college debt no on gives a fuck about fucking kids over. Not everyone needs to or deserves to go to college.
I have read high school kids whine about an hour of homework a day. Think an hour of homework in college is going to help you learn anything meaningful or useful? Not in any STEM degrees. Maybe in womans studies.
Free college will also never happen because it devalues the product. People now treat college like BMWs or houses in swanky neighborhood. It's a status symbol.
If you make it free, that won't be the case. People might talk about wanting free tuition, but if it was, then they'd have to find something else to brag about.
I don't think it's a coincidence that college tuition has gone through the roof just as the female population at colleges exploded. Colleges now function, to a large degree, as finishing schools for upper middle class girls.
Back in the old days, I was able to pay for most of my tuition by having a pizza delivery job in the summer. If I'm not mistaken, the University of Maryland cost just over $1000 a semester until the early 1990s. My parents picked up the rest of the tab.
We don't live in that kind of a society anymore for many complex reasons. But one reason is that people don't want it. They want Trump Towers and glitter, not Horatio Alger rags-to-riches stories.
Quote: (06-21-2015 09:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
Quote: (06-21-2015 01:28 PM)samsamsam Wrote:
I am not a fan of a free college education. It just raises expectations of what else should be free. If you take on debt etc then you are forced to be responsible about your choices. However, on the other side of the coin there are so many BS colleges that exist because they straddle kids with debt and since the kids can't BK college debt no on gives a fuck about fucking kids over. Not everyone needs to or deserves to go to college.
I have read high school kids whine about an hour of homework a day. Think an hour of homework in college is going to help you learn anything meaningful or useful? Not in any STEM degrees. Maybe in womans studies.
Free college will also never happen because it devalues the product. People now treat college like BMWs or houses in swanky neighborhood. It's a status symbol.
If you make it free, that won't be the case. People might talk about wanting free tuition, but if it was, then they'd have to find something else to brag about.
I don't think it's a coincidence that college tuition has gone through the roof just as the female population at colleges exploded. Colleges now function, to a large degree, as finishing schools for upper middle class girls.
Back in the old days, I was able to pay for most of my tuition by having a pizza delivery job in the summer. If I'm not mistaken, the University of Maryland cost just over $1000 a semester until the early 1990s. My parents picked up the rest of the tab.
We don't live in that kind of a society anymore for many complex reasons. But one reason is that people don't want it. They want Trump Towers and glitter, not Horatio Alger rags-to-riches stories.
Quote: (06-21-2015 01:45 PM)Onto Wrote:
Socialism (Based on Existence) = The feminine
Capitalism (Based on Merit) = The masculine