San Francisco, Bay Area Data Sheet
09-03-2014, 02:47 AM
I found SF to be a challenging environment for game.
I lived here for a while, and I did not enjoy a lot of success. I regret not leaving sooner. However, if I came in with game and established better logistics, who knows, it might have been a different story.
First I'll mention the positives:
1) It's a high-density city of 20-40 year olds. So even with the horrible ratio, and the fact that most women are ugly, there still is a high concentration of bangable and even good looking women per square mile. There's just an insane amount of competition and most of these women have attitudes up in the stratosphere as a result.
2) As has been said, logistics are pretty good if you can afford a centrally located apartment (at least $2k per month). If you can get a place near Union Square, Marina, Pac Heights, North Beach, upper Nob Hill, or Mission if you are a hipster, you might be able to get something going.
3) You can stack some paper here, in software, finance, biotech, law, consulting, real estate, sales or general business. Though taxes, cost of living, competing with other wealthy men will eat up a lot of your income.
4) Steady influx of international tourists, immigrants, and new women. Though you have to get at them very quickly before they realize their new inflated SF market value.
5) Because it was so difficult here, I found game and the red pill. It's so unforgiving that anywhere else I go feels easy by comparison. Had I lived in a better city, I probably would have settled down with a 7 and gotten married by now (I'm now glad that didn't happen).
The negatives: Way too many thirsty dudes. Way too many thirsty dudes who are loaded with cash. Low quality women with bad attidues. Smug hipsterism, PC-culture, feminism all to the extreme. Ultra-expensive. Every time I read descriptions of DC or Toronto, I feel like I've been there.
Men who I've seen do well here: industry (promoters, bartenders, etc), ultra high-net worth. Not to wealth troll but a hot girl who had friend-zoned me always went on and on about how her and friends would party it up at rich guys' condo parties every weekend. Some of the guys didn't even live in the condos. They had them just to throw parties. A lot of talent ends up at the charity events which require large donations. Maybe you can work an angle by volunteering at these if you cannot afford the donations.
Another type that does well are hipsters/artists with real cred. Like actually being in a band or being a working artist or something. People with some sort of unique angle, like this guy I knew who owns an auto-shop and is alpha as fuck. The worst thing you can be is just another beta with an office cube job. Even if you are banking a quarter-mil, that is still nothing special in SF.
I've also seen British and Australian dudes absolutely kill it with their accents, provided they had game and actually approached.
Day Game:
If you don't have access to elite social circles, if you don't have the top clubs on lock, day game is practically your only way to get any access to 7s. You will very rarely get access to 8+ from cold approach of any kind, day or night.
I read Giovanny's stuff and I believe it. I only tried it out once at UCB, did not get anywhere but girls were surprisingly friendly. I did a lot of day game at Whole Foods SOMA but it's gotten played out there. Did a shit-ton of street game around but not in Union square and Westfield mall as well. Stockton ave is the best day game street in Union Square. Had lots of #s but only a few real closes from my day game in the end. Day gaming financial district during lunch time is also worth a shot. It feels like day game in SF has gotten harder. After I first read Day Bang it felt easy and I had some initial success but lately it seems like girls have been getting hit with it more and have adjusted their shields accordingly.
Night Game:
This report is about 6 months obsolete and I heard some new clubs have opened since, but here's what I know of:
If you like Asian girls, get the Grand on lock ASAP. You can do this with McQueens club-on-lock method. The first few times you go there, grease one bartender well, and grease one bouncer well ($20-40 each). Make sure it's the same guy each time. After 2-3 times you should be in. I did not do this personally, I'm not into clubbing much, and I got sick of dealing with the attitudes of girls there, but I know two guys who locked it down to varying degrees and they have pulled from there sometimes. No ins-and-outs. If you come here, you are stuck for the night, unless you have the bouncers on very tight lockdown.
Sloan Squared is another club where you can try to pick up Asian girls. If you're not Asian, I would recommend rolling into these places with an Asian wingman.
Marina: The Matrix is the only spot worth focusing on. It's small, so when you get stale or blow out all the sets (there won't be that many), hit Eastside West and then Kate Obriens to do some walk-through approaches, take a breather, and then go back to Matrix. Things rotate there and it can become a completely new scene every hour. Yeah it's mostly white ex-sorority girls but the Marina has actually gotten much more diverse in recent years, and it also gets a lot of tourists sometimes.
Union Square: Slide, Vessel, Infusion Ruby Skeyey, 620 Jones, Redwood Room, Le Colonial, other smaller bars like Rye at your discretion. None of them are great. What you can do is you go early and then just rotate until you find something, and run lots of street game in between. Go early to make guest list/get stamped for Slide, Vessel, and Infusion.
You can sometimes find (barely) bangable cougars at the Redwood Room.
Hit Polk Street to break a dry spell. Though even if you go out there with the intention of bottom feeding there will be heavy competition even at that tier. Playland is the best spot there. Mayes is Ok as well. If you wreck the room at Playland then just go walk through the small bars nearby and run some street game, come back in 30-40 minutes and it will be a new scene.
North Beach Rotation: I don't recommend North Beach, but if you feel like mixing it up: Bubble Lounge, Cigar Bar, Kells, 15 Romolo, Monroe. Note that the main area (Broadway) tends to get a little bit rowdy and there are often a lot of fights there.
Mission: There are some hot hipster girls but they are not usually at the bars. They are usually at house parties, or with groups at restaurants, you have to get in with the scene for that. Elbo Room can be worth a look. Though technically not in the Mission, if you are a hipster or into hipster girls you should also hit up Rickshaw. Public Works is completely random, it can be great, and it can be horrible.
Other: Raven in SOMA was decent for a while last year, not sure how it is now.
***NONE of the above are actually good options. They are the least bad that I know of, if you are out in SF at night.
Make sure that you aggressively run street game while walking between bars in Marina, Polk or downtown. I've often had better luck with that than actually gaming inside the bars/clubs.
Really, I think one of the best ways to night game in SF is to get a good wing man that you enjoy just drinking with. And then hit up a ton of small bars and restaurants. You might do 2 or 3 districts and probably 10 venues or more, but if you are patient you might run into some talent that way.
Or try it rolling solo. Just walk into small bars. If there is some talent, order a drink and stay. If you need to stall to decide then get a water or use the bathroom. If it's clearly dead then just pretend you were checking your phone and bounce to the next bar.
Summary:
Don't come to SF unless there is some compelling business or personal reason. If you do come here, get in with the nightlife industry somehow, or become a daygame expert. Get a motorcycle. Join a band or start DJ-ing. Do anything you can to separate yourself from being another beta office dude. You really need to establish a distinct brand or image here.
Travel frequently on weekends, to LA, Vegas, Mexico, Texas, wherever, it will help you keep your ahead above the bullshit and if you regularly go places where you can actually see real talent, you will be better able to put SF girls in their rightful place and avoid thirsty behavior... which will actually increase your chances of banging them.
I have not touched online, that is probably important but I hate online. Whenever I checked out online, the girls looked absolutely horrible and I had to spend hours searching to find one that was even bangable.
If you're not successful within your first 6-12 months start making plans to get out. From what I have seen guys either kill it here or they don't so don't waste your time if you find yourself in the second group. If your game is not already at advanced level, this is one hell of a tough place to learn.
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