[Northern]

Rich, 28yo and nobody wants to fuck them! Sounds like a pussy paradise to me.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relatio...7338656184

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SO you’re independent and living the good life as a millionaire in your 20s — you should make the perfect catch, right?

Well apparently not, if you happen to be a woman looking for love in modern China.
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[CleanSlate]

This post makes me feel old.

[micha]

(05-06-2015 02:47 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

This post makes me feel old.

Are you a woman?

[CleanSlate]

(05-06-2015 04:35 AM)micha Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:47 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

This post makes me feel old.

Are you a woman?

I think my sense of humor is a little different from yours.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Yes - they are leftover women - this is what China's state feminism has to say about it:




http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%...CCQQrQMwAQ

Despite the 1,2 to 1 gender imbalance it ridiculously pales to the 2,5 to 1 imbalance in the west if you discount all the obese and single mothers that are plaguing the West by age 28. The mainstream twists it to the wrong conclusions as usual.

China does not have a lack of women who are rich middle class or above. They can pick among 18-22 year olds. Also they inherently know that a 28 year old millionairess is going to be tough to control if he makes 30k a year. Her best choice is a Beta who will accept her greater hand in the LTR, but of course just as the graphic correctly stated she either wants a rich guy or at least a poorer Alpha who will be exciting to her. She should take her millions and move to the west - hundreds of good-looking, tall men will be standing in line to date and marry her.

This is also interesting:

   

   

That is an article pushed at the aging Chinese leftover women. Leave it to the world social engineers to pervert the cultural norms so that every country but one can end up in a bloody Brave New World of no family structure. Yeah - I am sure leftover women are so incredibly happy. Maybe they up the soma dose over 40 when they are single and childless.

Also the comparison between "leftover" men is certainly lacking and more a sign of pushing new words and norms. The leftover unmarried men are less happy, because likely those men are not good-looking, socially adept and successful - those men are probably the bottom of the barrel. They are the prison population, the extremely poor and the socially awkward Omegas who despite success cannot get laid - nevermind marry one. Comparing those guys to leftover women is ridiculous:



At least that article gets it more right:

http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2013...-to-blame/

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Many professional women in China demand mates who make more than they do.Credit

Yes - exciting Alphas will do too I guess, but they hit on younger hotter girls.

[Cyclone]

^ I'm sorry but those translations in those graphs simply cracked me up too hard to interpret the results...
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[Aliblahba]

I see a huge business opportunity here. Importing 'vintage' pussy. Offer tours in the U.S. where 28-35 y.o. Chinese chicks come attend socials full of thirsty simps. Like those wife'ing up programs in Russia, but reversed. I'll take the hit and test the products before importing. After all, quality control is key to a successful biz.

[WestIndianArchie]

A late 20's millionaire woman wouldn't be a catch anywhere, unless you're a social climber

WIA

[Papi Rico]

(05-06-2015 11:48 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

A late 20's millionaire woman wouldn't be a catch anywhere, unless you're a social climber

WIA

social climber, or just an all out badass who collects them:

[RVCGRP]

28 yo is old in China, "old girls" are picky and have heard or experienced many stories of divorce and bad guys.

Another phenomenon in China is people meeting future spouses introduced by relatives or marriage agencies.

Similarly, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese and Southeast Asian women are leftovers too at that age.

(05-06-2015 02:06 AM)Northern Wrote:  

Rich, 28yo and nobody wants to fuck them! Sounds like a pussy paradise to me.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relatio...7338656184

Quote:

SO you’re independent and living the good life as a millionaire in your 20s — you should make the perfect catch, right?

Well apparently not, if you happen to be a woman looking for love in modern China.
...

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-06-2015 11:57 AM)Papi Rico Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:48 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

A late 20's millionaire woman wouldn't be a catch anywhere, unless you're a social climber

WIA

social climber, or just an all out badass who collects them:

As a matter of fact that could work well for Alphas with Game - that is the one category successful women will bow to gladly. That guy fucked and married his way to the top despite having countless affairs on the side.

[Laner]

I was staying at the W in Guangzhou and the lobby bar was full of single, mid thirties business women. It was a near feeding frenzy for stylish foreign men in their forties and fifties.

My cousin and his family live in the W apartments and I asked him about the women, and he said that they are indeed 'desperate'. After business dinners they are left out of the group as the men hit up KTV or a club, so they grab a bottle of wine and head home, or hit up such "international" lounges.

Even the Family Mart across the street sold dildos at the counter.

As a mid thirties man myself, these McLaren driving women are absolutely crackin, and while maybe not marriage material, they are certainly companion worthy.

[Menace]

Is there anyway I can get one of these McLaren driving gals to fly me to China for fun and frolicking? I will accept business class on any major Asian carrier. That really makes me want to hang out at a high end hotel bar in China.

[Aliblahba]

(05-06-2015 02:50 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Is there anyway I can get one of these McLaren driving gals to fly me to China for fun and frolicking? I will accept business class on any major Asian carrier. That really makes me want to hang out at a high end hotel bar in China.

I think you're onto something here.

[Belgrano]

(05-06-2015 02:50 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Is there anyway I can get one of these McLaren driving gals to fly me to China for fun and frolicking? I will accept business class on any major Asian carrier. That really makes me want to hang out at a high end hotel bar in China.

I can just add my humble experience:

I knew another foreign guy in Guangzhou, zero game and broke, but reasonably good looking, who got an all expenses paid offer for a trip to Beijing by a Chinese girl. Met her in one of the fancier clubs in GZ after being invited to a table, she only drove a Ferrari though. He declined, presumably because she was crazy². When i heard that I thought he was.

A few months ago I banged a girl in her mid 20s from Tianjin who was visiting me in Central Europe. Met her in Seoul originally (WeChat) where she was on vacation, but did not get the notch there, bad logistics. She makes about 200.000 Euro a year, and is traveling all the time. She´s been to Singapore, Turkey, Thailand and Palau since the beginning of this year alone. Since I provided her with the best sex of her life, I thought I´d try to get her to fly my broke ass to one of those places or China, and provide her some entertainment in return.
She thought about it, but it didn´t work out in the end, as she blew all her money and massively overdrew her credit card in a shopping spree on Single´s Day, to make herself feel better about the emotional void inside her, I guess. Still keeps sexting me and complains about Chinese men all the time. Maybe it´s time to try again.

It made me think about the possibility of becoming some kind of gigolo for wealthy Chinese shengnü. It just seems so easy. I knew enough of them who spent every day after work just directly going home, drinking wine and taking a bubble bath or reading some Western romance novels. Alone of course, everyday, that was their whole life. Naturally, it does not take a lot to sweep them off their feet. Effort is really all you need, they foot the bill. In my experience they desperately crave some excitement in their life. They have their material needs all fulfilled, but don´t know what to do with all their money and time, no idea on how to live the good life and just enjoy. Unfortunately, that means that they tend to be rather boring. Just going through the motions of how the media tells them and how they feel an educated, wealthy big city girl is supposed to live. Unoriginal. They lack guidance, when all they would need is a man who is not a push over pussy to take charge. Hard to find one in China, as those types of guys are not interested in getting locked down anytime soon, and certainly not by those girls. Basic career woman´s dilemma.

[Safado]

Threads like these make me wonder why there isn't a more organized attempt by members here to go off on missions together.

Imagine a group of stylish, cool and well bankrolled RVFers going to Guangzhou with the mission of scooping up as many leftovers into the doggy bag as they can fit.

Make a competition out of it. See who can bag the leftover with the highest net worth or who can get the most expensive trip paid for.

When the game gets old, start a new game.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-07-2015 01:03 AM)Safado Wrote:  

Threads like these make me wonder why there isn't a more organized attempt by members here to go off on missions together.

Imagine a group of stylish, cool and well bankrolled RVFers going to Guangzhou with the mission of scooping up as many leftovers into the doggy bag as they can fit.

Make a competition out of it. See who can bag the leftover with the highest net worth or who can get the most expensive trip paid for.

When the game gets old, start a new game.

Leftover women are good if you are looking to make money that way. Banging a still fuckable 30 year old while getting gifts and money from them is essentially a reversed jet-set-babe lifestyle. I have heard of some good-looking Japanese men making 7 digits that way - singing at karaoke and then having fake relationships with lonely Japanese leftover women who lavish presents and cash on him.

Women as soon as they feel emotional can spend massive amounts on men - if it's just for sex, then it is limited, that's why the scoundrel Porfirio Rubirosa could fuck his way through the high society. Doing so in China should not be so difficult.

Why RVF guys won't be doing it is simply because most of us prefer to bang hotter and make our own money. While there is no shame in doing it that way - fucking a 28 year old rich woman for money and still somewhat enjoying her company beats plenty of other jobs, but I personally would not want to do that. I would rather work as a lumberjack for 6 months and then have my freedom than do that. But to each his own - I don't consider it reprehensible or unworthy of a man.

[Holy(Muff)Diver]

Most of these women probably range from ass-ugly to average if they couldn't tie down a Chinese guy for marriage. You best believe any 8+ chick in China has several rich men, perhaps millionaires throwing money at her. Probably even the older ones.

Can't say I've noticed any desperation and easier lays from older women here. If anything the women, especially the younger aged ones, are beginning to develop Western style delusional standards and sense of entitlement because of the massive droves of foreigners coming into the cities and dating down. I predict China will actually lose its pussy paradise status very soon as they begin to develop and more foreigners keep coming in. Same thing happened with Japan and Korea. It's inevitable.

[Il Bersagliere]

(05-07-2015 02:32 AM)Holy(Muff)Diver Wrote:  

Most of these women probably range from ass-ugly to average if they couldn't tie down a Chinese guy for marriage. You best believe any 8+ chick in China has several rich men, perhaps millionaires throwing money at her. Probably even the older ones.

Can't say I've noticed any desperation and easier lays from older women here. If anything the women, especially the younger aged ones, are beginning to develop Western style delusional standards and sense of entitlement because of the massive droves of foreigners coming into the cities and dating down. I predict China will actually lose its pussy paradise status very soon as they begin to develop and more foreigners keep coming in. Same thing happened with Japan and Korea. It's inevitable.

I've noticed this shit too from Chinese women living abroad, albeit with not much exposure to the Western culture. It amounts to them thinking that the majority of men find their education sexy....

[BrazilianCocaine]

Wonder what U.S. feminists will say about this one...

And almost forgot - How is this possible when their male-female ratio is messed up with a lot more men than women?

I guess most of these Men are going abroad to find a young girl rather than settle for an older chinese woman.

[Menace]

From speaking to a FOB Chinese girl recently, the ratio problem in China is in the rural areas. In the cities there are actually more women than men (they left the country side to have careers, hence the shortage).

[Menace]

(05-07-2015 02:32 AM)Holy(Muff)Diver Wrote:  

Most of these women probably range from ass-ugly to average if they couldn't tie down a Chinese guy for marriage. You best believe any 8+ chick in China has several rich men, perhaps millionaires throwing money at her. Probably even the older ones.

Can't say I've noticed any desperation and easier lays from older women here. If anything the women, especially the younger aged ones, are beginning to develop Western style delusional standards and sense of entitlement because of the massive droves of foreigners coming into the cities and dating down. I predict China will actually lose its pussy paradise status very soon as they begin to develop and more foreigners keep coming in. Same thing happened with Japan and Korea. It's inevitable.

This is largely true, but my 7 or 8 can be a Chinese man's 6 or 5. For example, I don't give a shit about skin color, they can be dark. I don't need a watermelon-seed shaped face either. Anyway, the opportunity is there (not be funded permanently, but to have one foot the bill for the trip), but I suspect the initial contact has to be made there.

[TravelerKai]

(05-07-2015 01:45 PM)Menace Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 02:32 AM)Holy(Muff)Diver Wrote:  

Most of these women probably range from ass-ugly to average if they couldn't tie down a Chinese guy for marriage. You best believe any 8+ chick in China has several rich men, perhaps millionaires throwing money at her. Probably even the older ones.

Can't say I've noticed any desperation and easier lays from older women here. If anything the women, especially the younger aged ones, are beginning to develop Western style delusional standards and sense of entitlement because of the massive droves of foreigners coming into the cities and dating down. I predict China will actually lose its pussy paradise status very soon as they begin to develop and more foreigners keep coming in. Same thing happened with Japan and Korea. It's inevitable.

This is largely true, but my 7 or 8 can be a Chinese man's 6 or 5. For example, I don't give a shit about skin color, they can be dark. I don't need a watermelon-seed shaped face either. Anyway, the opportunity is there (not be funded permanently, but to have one foot the bill for the trip), but I suspect the initial contact has to be made there.

Nope. Use Chinese dating websites. Target the ones that are lawyers, managers, businesswomen, etc that are ~28-35, then pipeline their friends, (which are 7 times out of 10 just like them). Either do it before or after you arrive via WeChat, QQ, Weibo, or in person.

You can fly to China for 1200 or 1100 if you find a good deal and can handle some layovers. One way's can be cheaper sometimes as well. If you hit a homerun one of those women might just buy it for you.

I used to date women like this. 26-33 was the group I targeted exclusively until I realized that you can chase younger and younger, but I digress. There are some really nice gems in that age group. They do require more standard game because some of them are into shittesting and have trust issues up front, but they are not too hard to pass.

[WestIndianArchie]

(05-07-2015 01:45 PM)Menace Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 02:32 AM)Holy(Muff)Diver Wrote:  

Most of these women probably range from ass-ugly to average if they couldn't tie down a Chinese guy for marriage. You best believe any 8+ chick in China has several rich men, perhaps millionaires throwing money at her. Probably even the older ones.

Can't say I've noticed any desperation and easier lays from older women here. If anything the women, especially the younger aged ones, are beginning to develop Western style delusional standards and sense of entitlement because of the massive droves of foreigners coming into the cities and dating down. I predict China will actually lose its pussy paradise status very soon as they begin to develop and more foreigners keep coming in. Same thing happened with Japan and Korea. It's inevitable.

This is largely true, but my 7 or 8 can be a Chinese man's 6 or 5. For example, I don't give a shit about skin color, they can be dark. I don't need a watermelon-seed shaped face either. Anyway, the opportunity is there (not be funded permanently, but to have one foot the bill for the trip), but I suspect the initial contact has to be made there.

This! 1,000X

I learned long ago to please myself FIRST, and worry about pleasing the crowd later.

I'd still be running after "unattainable" AKA's if I had listened to the crowd.

WIA

[reco2100]

(05-08-2015 07:40 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 01:45 PM)Menace Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 02:32 AM)Holy(Muff)Diver Wrote:  

Most of these women probably range from ass-ugly to average if they couldn't tie down a Chinese guy for marriage. You best believe any 8+ chick in China has several rich men, perhaps millionaires throwing money at her. Probably even the older ones.

Can't say I've noticed any desperation and easier lays from older women here. If anything the women, especially the younger aged ones, are beginning to develop Western style delusional standards and sense of entitlement because of the massive droves of foreigners coming into the cities and dating down. I predict China will actually lose its pussy paradise status very soon as they begin to develop and more foreigners keep coming in. Same thing happened with Japan and Korea. It's inevitable.

This is largely true, but my 7 or 8 can be a Chinese man's 6 or 5. For example, I don't give a shit about skin color, they can be dark. I don't need a watermelon-seed shaped face either. Anyway, the opportunity is there (not be funded permanently, but to have one foot the bill for the trip), but I suspect the initial contact has to be made there.

Nope. Use Chinese dating websites. Target the ones that are lawyers, managers, businesswomen, etc that are ~28-35, then pipeline their friends, (which are 7 times out of 10 just like them). Either do it before or after you arrive via WeChat, QQ, Weibo, or in person.

You can fly to China for 1200 or 1100 if you find a good deal and can handle some layovers. One way's can be cheaper sometimes as well. If you hit a homerun one of those women might just buy it for you.

I used to date women like this. 26-33 was the group I targeted exclusively until I realized that you can chase younger and younger, but I digress. There are some really nice gems in that age group. They do require more standard game because some of them are into shittesting and have trust issues up front, but they are not too hard to pass.

How do you get them to introduce you to their friends?