Quote: (04-20-2015 04:15 AM)jariel Wrote:
Wall Street Playboys has an interesting post on personal finance and how it relates to dating, the premise being that ultimately you need to make a certain amount of money to be able to spend a certain amount of money to consistently date more attractive women.
Here's some commentary from the conclusion of the post:
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If you can spend 1.5x the median wage in your city (not save but spend on experiences) then you will have no problems dating in the 7 range. If you can get into the 5x median range and are in shape with solid social skills, you’re going to be sending girls into voice-mail consistently.
– For a 7: ~1.0-1.5x median wage ; For an 8: ~3-4.5x median wage; For a 9: 5.0x+ median wage
– If you cannot find a way to date attractive girls while spending 3x+ the median wage in your city, the problem is personal. You should be able to obtain dates easily by having better ideas, better venues (concerts, major events, private parties, charity events) and better logistics
Read the whole post.
There is something to what they claim, but most of it is bunk.
The biggest thing that sticks out to me is age factor. As many here will attest, it is somewhat easier to snag 7-10 girls that are younger. (17-20) Even easier with the appearance of money. Especially inter-racially. The older the woman, the more that money matters.
They also talk about dating. Not getting bangs. Dating, which usually implies keeping them to some degree. Whether you are keeping them in your stable or team of girls, a main girlfriend, STR/LTR, potential wife candidates, etc. All of those are much different than getting an off the record bang. Plenty dudes with solid game bang hot chicks they cannot keep for a litany of reasons. Lack of social circle or social/family lineage, wrong skin color or ethnicity, wrong educational background, wrong financial standing, not ideal height or looks, etc. Just because you can smash, does not mean you can keep. Lots of black guys have this problem with white girls, which leads to another point.
Black guys in America making 100K+ basically have much of the same dating limitations a tall and handsome black guy making 50K or less has. Making 150K+ is no different than 100K. This is SMV at work. Within dating black women, the richer brother can do much better and pull really hot black women if they can see your income on display somehow. The more educated they are, the better it works. Ghetto ones tend to associate wealth with bourgeois people and usually fuck up the opportunity somehow. Problem is a sista making 70K+ will usually shit test the hell out of you and may possibly piss you off before you date her enough to your own satisfaction (enough bangs, you wanted a LTR be she is too annoying, etc.) Trying to avoid displaying your value is a double edge sword and many of any ethnicity will drop you into an ordinary nigga bucket very quickly. Wearing a 20K Breitling watch while wearing sweatpants and a tshirt, may intrigue a certain white girl or a sharp black woman for all the wrong reasons too. The black woman will be looking to lock you down hardcore if she is smart enough to know better.
Being black with money offers no real shortcuts. Game is a must. Buying bottles at a club makes you no different than the wannabe rappers that are selling dope, wearing ice, and fronting like they really have legit money. Driving around flossing with a new Benz, BMW, and fast sports cars, might get you robbed or unwanted attention. Women that you really want that see your car will not give you much attention unless you can somehow get parked and catch them off guard inside a building or something similar, before they forget your face. This is harder to pull off than talking about it.
Being known for having alot of money inside a large black social circle is a big detriment. You will be getting stuck with the liquor tabs and getting friendzone by bitches looking for free shit when you all go out, before you can even make decent approaches. They may even attribute you as a dork or nerd behind your back, if you make your money off IT or Finance. A sales dude with mad bank usually has enough mouthpiece to get away with alot of shit, and usually tends to be taller like most sales people. They are also used to being turned down too which is strong game fundamentals. Dressing like a rapper or wearing flashy icy watches, earrings, etc. can get you 7+ gals with asses and probably the ghetto personality to match, but are we talking about dating or smashing? A more subtle low key good gal with education, may dismiss you quickly for that thinking you are a thug wannabe or a dope boy.
For women outside black women, the proper way to leverage your money is to match your bankroll with educational pedigree, excellent presence, speak multiple languages, and work the hell out of social circle game (work/professional and collegiate). Either that or prey on endless supplies of 5-6 yuppie-liberal/emo goth women in places like SF, Seattle, Portland, Austin, etc. For a bunch of reasons hardcore feminists like successful black men. I dated a few before I became redpill without really trying, and one had chased me down. Lot of work eh? Even when you catch some nice birds, they will bust your balls enough to make you dump them after a while.
White dudes with money have more options I think, but I think it also depends upon where they live and how they display that. Country dudes with alot of land and cattle/livestock, driving around in a 60K+ 4X4 truck are a dead giveaway. They are not fooling anyone except ignorant city folk. Guys with large fishing boats are not fooling anyone either just because they tow it with a F-150 instead of a Range Rover. They cannot downplay what they have easily either. Former military guys, get chased because women know they have no debts, college or otherwise, and tend to have plenty cash in a Credit Union account somewhere. Not having any direct combat experience is a plus because they know you won't have PTSD, although some will like the tough guy that pulled some tours in Fallujah that runs his own HVAC or mechanic business.
I am starting to think that while black rappers talk alot about gold-diggers, I think white guys with money have it much worse than any black guy or rapper. Some of these women are so well trained by their mothers to go to college ride the carousel hard, drink, and party hard, then lock down a beta that has money. They can spot a high earner from a mile away. They are like secret agents going super deep undercover. They talk innocent as fuck and put on excellent dating masks, black, Asian, or Latino women cannot reproduce. They cheat before and even after a wedding. Divorcing after a few kids (to nail down the lock) and will initiate the divorce to the husband's surprise, talking about they are not happy anymore. Your average white guy in the Manosphere is super afraid and averse to any marriage. While you average minority is not scared, but just mostly picky or cautious.
These divorce raping white women have many white guys on edge and many go well out of their way to downplay their wealth or give women the idea they are a gullible beta that will pay for them, knowing damn well they are just pumping and dumping this chick. Don't believe me? Start keeping score on comments in RVF and other popular Manosphere sites on anti-marriage comments.
Anyway, the Wallstreet playboys, obviously regard money differently than men with more complete game. We would stack the money they make to be location independent for the rest of our lives. That and date on the cheap, running slick kinds of baller game because we want to minimize cost and maximize returns. RVFers are min-max assholes because we know better. These guys are mostly lazy and just want shortcuts. As long as they are not wife hunting like this, it really doesn't matter in the end, they still get the same results we get more or less.
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