Quote: (01-08-2015 03:18 AM)Russkie Dusha Wrote:
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Quote: (01-05-2015 02:49 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
Sounds trollish - no man ever says: "Pussy should be tougher to get. I am too bored for getting them into bed so fast and easy."
I agree with the OP on this. One should push themselves in all aspects in life. Becoming better in one will lend aid to the other facets in life we need to improve. 38 is the time to invade Europe, because at 60 you will have missed out. The Phils, DR, Colombia, ect. will always be there. Optimize your youth and potential while you have it.
I also think the OP's got a point. Really, he could have swiped out Manilla with SEA though.
The whole region is swamped with geriatrics into p4p. I've been in Chiang Mai a couple months now...
It's an awesome place in many regards but as a 25 yr old guy, I feel a bit out of place in the social scene here. It's either hippie backpackers or burn out old sexpats, very little in between.
Have you considered hanging with...uh, Thai people? You'd still feel out of place, but, well, that's kind of the point of going to a foreign country.
Even if not, your assertion is an oversimplification. There are plenty of successful professional expats in Thailand. They're not the majority but why would you hang out with the majority anyways?
Life's too short to fall in with the majority. If you're going to hang out for a while, start business networking and that alone would put you in touch with plenty of quality people.
I can probably count the farang friends I had on a couple hands in my years in Thailand, though. There's no reason to be a snob about it, but I don't really see the point of coming all this way just to only associate with other foreigners.
The old slimeballs are harmless for the most part. We'd probably do the same in their shoes and may someday. They leave me alone; I leave them alone.
I get some envious looks for the quality of my birds sometimes. The local guys do it too. Guys in the US talk shit behind your back when you roll with a quality bird and try to mack on her when you go in the other room (if you don't neutralize them somehow).
It's all the same in the end. You can't let the shitty lives other people lead keep you from being awesome.
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These old guys kind of resent your presence too. Here, they worked their asses off for decades in corporate 'murica, and Thailand's supposed to be their reward.
As a young tall good-looking guy, you're destroying the pussyeconomics lol.
Honestly, despite being great value...I think SEA's a bit of a trap for young guys. Life's too easy, too comfortable. There's a tangible laziness in the air here.
Not optimal for personal development imho.
It can be a trap. I won't deny it. I'm living proof of the tangible laziness.
But I tend to think that blaming your (my) lack of ambition on location is an excuse. Every location can and usually does provide ample reason to not get shit done.
On the other hand, maybe the old dudes know a thing or two about life that a 25-year-old doesn't. Like that life's too short to rush. Like that living in the tropics, eating good food, and not taking life too seriously (like the Thais) maybe ain't such a bad idea.
Like that slowing down and forgetting about the clock might actually make you happier.
And here's the thing.
Figure out what's really important at 25 and you get to enjoy life minus the bullshit for that much longer. Something to think about...
Quote: (01-08-2015 06:30 AM)Russkie Dusha Wrote:
Quote: (01-08-2015 03:44 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
There are places on earth, where you can rack up high numbers fast and those experiences can be helpful even for younger men - countries in SEA, DR, some African countries etc.
It's very easy to get girls in the 6 range here. Any decent-looking young guy should be able to rack up a lot of notches.
Getting the high-quality girls in thailand though...is no easy task. I find it harder than back home. And I think that's what bugs me about the SEA-hype.
So what is the problem then? The 6s are easy and the hot girls are difficult.
It has been discussed a million times on this board that the hot girls are just as difficult, if not more so, than many other places in the world. And that a lot of the foriengers aren't banging broads worth bragging about. Especially in a place like Chiang Mai. Most of us know about these dynamics and warn people ahead of time.
But that's no reason to dog on guys who like living here regardless.
Instead of writing the entire place off, guys can also choose to live there and keep their game sharp dating the hotter women and leave the skanks and uglies for the weekend tourists. Because a truly hot SEA girl is a treasure to behold.
You don't have to do any of that, of course - you can choose to go to EE. I could certainly care less about that. But why you and the OP insist on insinuating that every guy who chooses to live in SEA must be swimming in the easy 6s is beyond me.
There's no need to project your own experiences traveling here on every young white guy that lives in the region.
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Most guys screaming about how awesome it is are coming from the bowels of America or W. Europe.
Many of the guys screaming about how awesome (for those reasons) it is and overinflating the ease are just as retarded as the guys writing it off after a couple days or months. These guys are called out repeatedly.
There are also other guys who scream how awesome it is for many other reasons - the main one being lifestyle. Then there are even more of us who pitch it with a well-balanced tone, offering the perks and the drawbacks.
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There are other ways to fuck your way through SEA - the Swooptheworld guys are doing it not by paying - sometimes it's semi-pros or even attractive pros that you Game in order to have sex without paying.
I've 'shored' a few without even knowing what that meant (or that they were pros).
Honestly, I think it's sketchy as fuck. Only one asked me for money---completely took me by surprise. I acted out the naive nice guy who didn't know routine, which was true.
But if you do it on purpose, it's kinda low. I mean...it's how these girls make a living. And here in CM, word would get around fast.
Shoring without knowing what it means is not shoring. That's called getting scammed or being a tool who has no clue what is going on. Both have happened to me, so I'm not immune.
Acting out the naive guy "on purpose" is also not shoring. That's called being a scammER.
Shoring is when you're drunk and some freelancer who's off work or prowling the after hour bars for late-night customers is into you (like actually into you) and you say "I don't pay for lady." And she says "It's okay," "Never mind," or "Mai bpen rai," and grinds her ass on you. Even then it's good to double-check before you take her home.
No one has ever said fucking hookers for free isn't a sketchy-as-fuck thing to do.
Some guys just need to go outside and play with others from time to time and realize that men like to trade stories about dumb and dirty shit they do when they're drunk. It's called locker room talk - not dating advice.
In fact I'd say most of us live to regret it when the hangover wears off, but instead of grabbing our nutsack and crying it off in the closet, we tell a funny story.
The moral of the tale is not move to Thailand and shore hookers for the rest of your life.
Let's get some common sense in here.
Quote: (01-08-2015 07:44 PM)Hornet Wrote:
....but you have to settle for 6 or 6.5/10 for a girl (but with one of the lowest divorce rates in the world)
Ok...
Quote: (01-10-2015 05:36 AM)Russkie Dusha Wrote:
Quote: (01-10-2015 04:16 AM)Phoenix Wrote:
So... in South Korea hot chicks approach you for ONS. But in Thailand, they are hard to get...
Does Thai weather give you vicious raging acne or something?
Here that is equivalent to saying 'hey guys actually the world is flat'. No one cares about the original topic now, we just want to hear more about this new revelation.
I am very much looking forward to a datasheet.
Well, now that you mentioned it...the humidity in Thailand has made my skin a little more oily than normal.
In all seriousness, I get approached a fair amount here too, by decent-looking girls.
Is there something wrong with decent-looking girls? I take it by decent you mean good-looking (not 6s)? Maybe I'm overassuming?
Anyhow, in my experience only the ugly women, hookers, and tourist-chasers
approach men in Thailand (girls are flirty by nature, but even Thai men rarely make a straight up approach), so you must be a looker indeed.
If good-looking women are doing it the place can't be all that bad, eh?
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But upper tier girls (8+) in CM are a tough nut to crack. Why? Because most hot girls here are in the upper class. They're a bit snooty, their English is non-existent and they hang out in thai-style clubs which are a nightmare for pickup.
Yes, Chiang Mai upper class is very difficult. I lived there over 3 years and have written on this pretty thoroughly. I loved Chiang Mai - didn't move there for the dating opportunities - but I usually tell guys if they're looking for a quality dating market they should be in Bangkok.
But why are you setting limitations on yourself (and more importantly, the other men on the forum)? You write off an entire country (entire region) because the hot women don't fall on your dick and the easy ones do? I don't get it.
Go for the hot tough nuts to crack and you're living in a completely different world than the false, overdone image of SEA.
There are young men in SEA doing just that. Living it up, keeping their shit together, and dating hot and classy women who are not easy. Yet guys like you insist on shitting on their lifestyle and spreading these lazy stereotypes.
There are other men who are just dating a simple but pretty woman and living a simple life. I can vibe with that too, personally. Not a bad approach to life.
No reason to hate on anyone else's life choices.
Quote: (01-10-2015 09:40 AM)Menace Wrote:
It is insanely easy to get 6's, unsophisticated girls, and to bang as many as you want. Some guys live and breathe this stuff, and some don't. I think I would get tired after about two weeks.
Yeah, but there's no reason you can't change your standards after two weeks and pursue a completely different experience.
The point Enigma is making throughout this thread is that there are other options and it's lazy and shortsighted for a poster to label all guys who live there just because he hasn't taken the time to explore those other options.
It's his own fault he travels for such short periods of time, it's his own fault he then convinces himself that short length of time is anything close to seeing a country, and it's definitely his own fault that he starts drawing arrogant conclusions within that amount of time.
None of that is relaying quality travel experience - that's drawing on flash-in-the-pan driveby observations to foster stereotypes.
Problem with the OP is he made this judgement call after 3 long days like he knows something and then insulted all the young guys who lived there, insinuating they are likely low on sexual experience and "beta."
Troll, in other words.
If not on purpose via his postings than in his intellect, personality, and general approach to life.