[BadgerHut]

Hates her job. If a woman sees work as a clock-punching exercise until she can go home and chill, I almost always find out she's a boring person who just wants to loaf. Sure there's plenty of shitty jobs but if you haven't found something you enjoy that people will pay you for it screams "I am lazy."

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

Time limits on sex

[SlickyBoy]

^there's a pic online of some guy with an epic t-shirt:

"Uggs are for whores."

I'd post but on my phone now. Classic, and a true maxim.

[FANATICAL]

#1 interrupts you / isn't really listening but waiting to speak. This is a girl who has a flighty vj from adhd dating and thinks she is the alpha to all men.

#2 is too good at taking selfies / never smiles in them. She is too used to giving the expression after a guy has just skeeted over her.

[robreke]

What about women who roll their eyes all the time for "effect"

eg. "Oh...and I'm sure I won't hear the end of it from my professor." ( said while rolling eyes up into head)

I had the feeling she was doing it to almost appear cute. Did it multiple times during a coffee date.

anyone have ideas on what this subcommunicates?

[xxMarco]

It's sad reading this thread. Most of these red flags are on point and unfortunately takes about 70% of women out of LTR material.

The bad thing for me is that I don't recognize a red flag until I'm knee deep in the girl. It's a gut feeling that I ignore. Like oh shit maybe I shouldn't have dated that girl that was in an abusive relationship. Maybe I shouldn't catch feelings for that girl who has a roommate that fucks a different guy everyday. All this is some kind of puzzle that I realize too late that I fucked up. You live and learn and maybe if I wasn't in the game this long I wouldn't know.
I chalk most of this shit up to Life experience but now I'm hyper aware of this. Any little thing and it sets off my red flag radar.

[michelin]

(12-14-2014 04:06 PM)LouEvilSlugger Wrote:  

- Divorced parents
- Social media presence
- Travels to fuckfest locations ie resorts in Jamaica and Mexico
- Guy/girl ratio in her social circle
- Tattoos/piercings

All of the above plus short hair or sudden change to short haircut.

minor red flags: obsessed with checking out her smartphone, short attention span when talking to people, reads chick lit.

[Balkanite]

The importance of this thread cannot be emphasized enough for all men. I wish I saw this last year. My take on red flags based on a horrific breakup with a LTR. Beautiful girl but had issues that she revealed to me later on in our relationship::

- No father figure
- Took meds to relax and couldn't sit still for long periods (ADD)
- Public IG account
- Fear of men rejecting her
- Many previous trips to Vegas
- Told white lies VERY easily

The lying planted the seed of uncertainty in me from the beginning that I could not shake off. Lots of lessons learned for me.

[bewater]

(02-01-2015 12:02 PM)Balkanite Wrote:  

The importance of this thread cannot be emphasized enough for all men. I wish I saw this last year. My take on red flags based on a horrific breakup with a LTR. Beautiful girl but had issues that she revealed to me later on in our relationship::

- No father figure
- Took meds to relax and couldn't sit still for long periods (ADD)
- Public IG account
- Fear of men rejecting her
- Many previous trips to Vegas
- Told white lies VERY easily

The lying planted the seed of uncertainty in me from the beginning that I could not shake off. Lots of lessons learned for me.

Haha....that's my ex. She lied so easily like it was reality...and I think at some level she believed the lies. You can't believe how she could defend herself when I confronted about a lie...people who don't her won't believe me that she lied in a million years, but I had the evidence. Even when I have proof, she tried to blame on me....incredible. Once I wanted to see how far she goes and I don't know why I didn't broke up with her then: she started insulting me and told me how can I make her a liar. She even started to cry and told me how bad I treat her.

[gamebreaker32]

Add another red flag. 23 and never had a boyfriend, she has some sort of issue with commitment.

[SlickyBoy]

How about a red flag for a guy who's already a husband:

Not long ago during happy hour I overheard a married woman (I saw the ring) at the bar talking to her male coworker. He recounted an affair he had with a married woman many years ago, when he was younger, and that he regretted doing it. Her response:

"Well, don't be so hard on yourself; if it wasn't going to be with you it'd be with somebody else."

Most women - particularly married women - would go instantly silent or change the subject after hearing what he just revealed, but she did the excuse making for him and didn't seem to have any problems with affairs, per se. I'd have expected that kind of rationalization from HIM, not her. Being that she was married it sounded like an open invitation for him to try the same thing with her.

Her husband probably has no idea what's about to hit him.

[MrXY]

Quote:

Her husband probably has no idea what's about to hit him.

Already did- he just didn't find out about it.

She's right though; a woman cheats because she's ready to cheat, not because she met some particular guy.

[Balkanite]

(02-01-2015 12:20 PM)bewater Wrote:  

(02-01-2015 12:02 PM)Balkanite Wrote:  

The importance of this thread cannot be emphasized enough for all men. I wish I saw this last year. My take on red flags based on a horrific breakup with a LTR. Beautiful girl but had issues that she revealed to me later on in our relationship::

- No father figure
- Took meds to relax and couldn't sit still for long periods (ADD)
- Public IG account
- Fear of men rejecting her
- Many previous trips to Vegas
- Told white lies VERY easily

The lying planted the seed of uncertainty in me from the beginning that I could not shake off. Lots of lessons learned for me.

Haha....that's my ex. She lied so easily like it was reality...and I think at some level she believed the lies. You can't believe how she could defend herself when I confronted about a lie...people who don't her won't believe me that she lied in a million years, but I had the evidence. Even when I have proof, she tried to blame on me....incredible. Once I wanted to see how far she goes and I don't know why I didn't broke up with her then: she started insulting me and told me how can I make her a liar. She even started to cry and told me how bad I treat her.

And I was called verbally abusive when I confronted her about lies she told me or lies about her past. Or something she deliberately hid from me. It's bogus just to blame us and they can do nothing wrong. I've never confronted such dishonesty from someone. I'm still trying to get over it after a few months.

[OGNorCal707]

(02-01-2015 05:03 AM)xxMarco Wrote:  

It's sad reading this thread. Most of these red flags are on point and unfortunately takes about 70% of women out of LTR material.

The bad thing for me is that I don't recognize a red flag until I'm knee deep in the girl. It's a gut feeling that I ignore. Like oh shit maybe I shouldn't have dated that girl that was in an abusive relationship. Maybe I shouldn't catch feelings for that girl who has a roommate that fucks a different guy everyday. All this is some kind of puzzle that I realize too late that I fucked up. You live and learn and maybe if I wasn't in the game this long I wouldn't know.
I chalk most of this shit up to Life experience but now I'm hyper aware of this. Any little thing and it sets off my red flag radar.

I haven't read this thread in a while so I missed some of these posts, but I got to say what this brother said right here I can relate to 100%, I almost felt like I was reading something I wrote myself.

Case in point, I ended up catching feelings for this girl again, she painted herself as a good conservative Christian girl (7.5/10) who goes to church every Sunday and is very relationship oriented.

I did take it slow with her and didn't get the bang till the 4th date, and things seemed to be going really good, until this week she flaked on a date that we had planned, and then gave me a bunch of B.S. excuses about not hanging out, then finally the last straw was last night when she flat out didn't reply to my text about us hanging out tonight.

Basically, I'm going to have to charge it to the game and move on, but I wanted to say there were some red flags with her that others have posted on here.

Her parents are divorced or possibly never married in the first place, her mom is apparently a complete alcoholic fuck up, and she has a half brother with a drug problem.

Just in the past 6 months she's gotten two tattoos, while they are small and feminine, apparently she claims she wants more in the future.

She is on social media, I don't think she is on in it in a major way, but apparently she has Facebook and instagram, although I don't know if her instagram is private.

Finally, a last one that probably won't apply to most guys, but since I'm in a small town, this girl has already crossed into social circles with guys in my bubble. For example before I even met her I found out that one of my good buddies' roommate who I have also chilled with had gotten her number at the bar and had texted her and was talking to her on Facebook and instagram, but then left the country to travel before any date happened.

Then I was creeping on this girl's Facebook page and I noticed some dude kept liking all her pics, I then clicked on his profile and saw that it was some super douchey tatted up SoCal bro who drives a huge truck and is all roided out, and it's a guy who lives in my neighborhood literally down the street and around the block.

I mean I know it's a small community up here, but those were kind of red flags to me that just within my little bubble, she had other dudes that I know who were talking to her and trying to get at her.

[DarkTriad]

(12-15-2014 12:23 PM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote:  

- Has farang friends
- Spent time studying in the Anglosphere
- Goes clubbing more than once a fortnight
- Likes Khao San road
- Has dated a farang before
- Has a tattoo/wants to get one/has a friend with a tattoo
- Mentions Soi 11
- Adam's apple

It's good to know Thailand has rednecks too!

Can't stand a woman that goes out with (un)colored folk.

[Vaun]

Biggest challenge now and biggest frustration, no counter offer;

You: Hey lets meet up this Tuesday at 9 for a drink
Her: We will see, ask me next week, I am out of town this weekend

-or-

You: Are you free on Friday at 10 for a drink?
Her: I am not available that day
Her: silence
You:

-or-

You: Great, when are you free next week(usually a last resort because it looks needy)
Her: I dont know, I'm pretty busy, can you text me on Tuesday and we will see?
You:

Basically, its girls who will not commit to a date and time to meet you, but for some reason are carrying on a chatty fun text thread with you. They do not counter offer the date and time they can meet up with you. They leave it hanging.

I simply just assume she doesn't want to meet me. Now if a girl says this, and I think I like her, I just text them;

Me: Tuesday?
Her: Sorry didn't see this. Perhaps, can we touch base next week. I'm gone this weekend
Me: Just tell me what day and time works for you.

But I think this reply implies butt hurt and being too available.

So I consider a few things on how much I pursue before I let it go:

Age: Younger, older, how much? Over 32 I walk away from quick.
Beauty: 1-10 scale.
Breasts: Determines how badly I want to pursue to see them.

So if she is over 32, with a yuk body I will cut and run quick. Younger/Hotter especially with will keep me hanging in there, but have to balance without showing too much thirst.

[Lucky]

Girls who are into music like Marilyn Manson and Slipknot tend to be cutters.

Obviously chicks who cut themselves are fucking nuts, but they are easier to fuck. God doesn't give with both hands.

[Travesty]

^ Girls that don't counter offer aren't worth the headache and the 2-5% chance she will turn around and want to meet.

There is so much emphasis on tricks to try to turn around very weak Maybe girls I think it is a complete waste. Targeting more girls and focusing on forming a good connection on the approach to collect more Yes girls is just so much more enjoyable.

[Vaun]

(03-21-2015 01:40 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ Girls that don't counter offer aren't worth the headache and the 2-5% chance she will turn around and want to meet.

There is so much emphasis on tricks to try to turn around very weak Maybe girls I think it is a complete waste. Targeting more girls and focusing on forming a good connection on the approach to collect more Yes girls is just so much more enjoyable.

I would wholeheartedly agree with you, 10-20 years ago. And this was my policy then, especially when I was LTR hunting. I was looking for the girls most eager to be with me.

But now,at least here, this happens in almost every interaction. And usually the hyper-eager ones typically are crazy. I have noticed its different though in other parts of the country.

Its like these girls are either addicted to their phones, numb to the giant amount of thirst they get from online dating and social media, or are watching too much porn themselves.

[Medic42]

-Hates her father
-Drug or alcohol abuse (not use but real abuse)
-Familiarize yourself with common psych meds, check her medicine cabinet
-Lots of male friends, no female friends. If guys like her and women can't stand her she's a slut.
-Her female friends are sluts, birds of a feather
-Doesn't push for a relationship, is comfortable with being a booty call for long periods of time
-Is a "party girl"
-Gets upset when you open doors or pull out chairs for her
-Female athletes who travel for competitions (high testosterone, and opportunities for NSA sex)
-Public safety or military girls. For those who don't know most female cops, firefighters, and medics have had access to a large group of athletic alpha males and have usually been passed around like a bottle of crown.
-Cries after sex
-Shoves a finger up your ass while blowing you without so much as a warning or even the decency to spit on it first

[B-Nut]

The one that blows my mind

---The lack of girls being "curious"....like you know, asking questions ABOUT YOU,,,about your past. genuinely interested

They just don't care. Like they don't care about you. Just what you offer them, you are an object of value amongst thousands of men.

Now it's a sign of lack of investment but I mean even girls that are attracted I notice this too

[SlickyBoy]

(03-21-2015 02:28 PM)Medic42 Wrote:  

-Public safety or military girls. For those who don't know most female cops, firefighters, and medics have had access to a large group of athletic alpha males and have usually been passed around like a bottle of crown.

I can't believe this wasn't brought up sooner - and I can't believe I wasn't thinking of it either. This one is the red flag of all red flags, especially if she was enlisted Army or Marines. Way worse than your average college girl - though maybe nowadays not by much.

If I had a daughter who wanted to enlist I would want to know where I went wrong as a father.

[Medic42]

(03-21-2015 03:17 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

I can't believe this wasn't brought up sooner - and I can't believe I wasn't thinking of it either. This one is the red flag of all red flags, especially if she was enlisted Army or Marines. Way worse than your average college girl - though maybe nowadays not by much.

If I had a daughter who wanted to enlist I would want to know where I went wrong as a father.

For sure, and I can't believe the number of public safety/military guys that white knight up and marry these sloots when they hit their epiphany phase. The crazy thing is most of these guys don't even realize the girl was a public safety bicycle and the rest of the guys that have tagged her are just standing around shaking their heads.

[B-Nut]

I knew a chick who worked as an Emergency ambulance worker who puts injured onto stretchers and saves their lives in the ambulance

She had herpes bubbles all over her face and nose.

Got banged by all her coworkers and got blood on her from patients she saved

She was garbagedumpster material

[philosophical_recovery]

I wish I learned this sooner. I strung out so many conversations over text because I didn't give up. I just figured I wasn't hitting the right buttons. Lately, if I get a girl's number and she doesn't provide a counteroffer, I just delete the number. A year or so ago, I started putting flaky bitches in a special phone number area where I change their names to indicate their flakiness. Now, I don't have time for that shit.

(03-21-2015 01:35 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

Biggest challenge now and biggest frustration, no counter offer;

You: Hey lets meet up this Tuesday at 9 for a drink
Her: We will see, ask me next week, I am out of town this weekend

-or-

You: Are you free on Friday at 10 for a drink?
Her: I am not available that day
Her: silence
You:

-or-

You: Great, when are you free next week(usually a last resort because it looks needy)
Her: I dont know, I'm pretty busy, can you text me on Tuesday and we will see?
You:

Basically, its girls who will not commit to a date and time to meet you, but for some reason are carrying on a chatty fun text thread with you. They do not counter offer the date and time they can meet up with you. They leave it hanging.

I simply just assume she doesn't want to meet me. Now if a girl says this, and I think I like her, I just text them;

Me: Tuesday?
Her: Sorry didn't see this. Perhaps, can we touch base next week. I'm gone this weekend
Me: Just tell me what day and time works for you.

But I think this reply implies butt hurt and being too available.

So I consider a few things on how much I pursue before I let it go:

Age: Younger, older, how much? Over 32 I walk away from quick.
Beauty: 1-10 scale.
Breasts: Determines how badly I want to pursue to see them.

So if she is over 32, with a yuk body I will cut and run quick. Younger/Hotter especially with will keep me hanging in there, but have to balance without showing too much thirst.