[Dusty]

I think a decent strategy for guys is to be a serial male whore. By that I mean, rather than focusing on ONS and P&Ds, you date the same girl for 6-12 months, then chuck her and get a new one. You can get some good experiences and companionship while getting fresh and new pussy every 6-12 months.

A life of ONS is energy and time consuming and leaves you with a lot of collateral damage (late nights, drinking, etc) which distract you from your school/job/career/money making.

[DVY]

@Global Entry- Thanks for writing this up.

I'm still far from this point, but seeing the emotion and thought process behind it gives me a good framework for the future.

[silviophonic]

(10-07-2014 11:06 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

I don't really know GK that well, but I understand women a little bit.

I also have eyes.
I make observations.
I make connections.

You're not always going to be in the gym, drinking a gallon of milk, doing HIIT.
You're not always going to eat right.
Injuries will take longer to heal.

Your career may not go as planned, or as you hoped.
Your business may fail, your investments may tank.
You may move to a new city and have to start your social circle from scratch.
Maybe even a new country, and have to learn a new language, a new culture.

Even through all of that, your ability to connect with another human being does not have to diminish. You can make friends at any age. Telling jokes, swapping stories, trading silent looks....never ends.

If you can do that, you can bag bitches. bitches galore.

So many guys are caught up in what a girl sees. Because guys judge everything by what it looks like, they assume that's how EVERYONE processes information. At the same time, these same guys will tell you all bitches are crazy, and none of them are logical.

It NEVER occurs to them, that a woman may evaluate things differently, that a woman might see things differently.

And this love affair with "men's logic" is what makes them never notice the world around them. Anything that upsets the apple cart has to be an exception. At no time do men question the rules, the logic, the rationale.

I don't know GK.
I don't care if was into P4P.

I do know men GK's age who are fucking 25 year olds without having to be a whoremonger or a sugar daddy.

Those kind of guys see something and they go after it.
Do they get laughed at?
Do they have to break out the Cialis/Viagra?
Do they look stupid in a young man's clothes?
Do people think the nice cars are compensation for physical shortcomings?

Sure they do.

And while the peanut gallery snickers, he's breaking a chick off a piece of his kit-katbar.

What's most interesting is that a lot more men could be taking advantage of the situation, but they've become beat down by society, they become risk averse. Some of that is biochemical of course, missing a set of hormones, but if you're aware of it, you still have free will.

There are still things you can do.

I'm not knocking marrying a pretty foreign wife. I hope to do the same in the future, but if I do find Mrs. WIA by way of Colombia, it won't be because I don't think I can't pull another chick, or that I need to get out the game while the getting is good.

I've seen too much.
I've experienced too much.

WIA

Love this. I, too, am over the rubicon, but I couldn't say it better than this.
Stay healthy, stay hip, do what you need to do to maintain your looks, adapt as needed, and keep believing.

Relevant: http://krauserpua.com/2014/05/31/game-is...nal-youth/

[MrLemon]

(10-11-2014 06:14 PM)robreke Wrote:  

Reading this thread came at a good time for me. I'm 44 and recently was dumped, by a 26 year old girl in her last year of law school. I suppose I can be thankful in some sense because she was a lawyer and who wants to be married to one. But, she's the smartest girl, probably, I've ever dated and our conversations were great as was the sex. I'm pretty smart and wasn't able to find many women on my wavelength or intellectual capability who didn't eventually bore me. She left me for her long time ex who she said she wanted to give one more chance ( and who Im sure is closer to her age ). I hate to admit it, but I had oneitis and it hurt ( and still does ) that she left. I've been semi-depressed. I'm dating another girl I'm not nearly as attracted to though who is fun and trying to meet others.
What I think is adding to my sadness is I was looking at myself as a 44 year old man who is "running out of options". After reading many of these posts here, I think I have a self pitying mindset and I need to snap the fuck out. I can still pass for mid , sometimes early, thirties. I'm decent looking and still get looks from younger women from time to time though not like in my 30s. I want to have a family and children and , perhaps subconsciously, viewed this girl who just left me, as a fading chance at a cool attractive young woman I could have a LTR with and even children. Now, she's gone. I left it at " call me if it doesn't work out" and she said she would. I've been thinking about contacting her to trying to convince her to choose me as wrong as this is or I'm hoping it doesn't work out for the same reasons again with her ex and she calls me soon....But I can't wait for that. I've got to move on.

I've actually been bordering on, as I mentioned earlier, depression, and I'm constantly thinking about her. I know this isn't a thread about oneitis or heartbreak and I don't mean to go on with my current issues, but the point is, reading the posts of the members on this thread, especially the older guys who are still slaying young pussy, has given me more hope and determination to change my mindset and try to forget her and move on. It's also given me ideas of things I need to focus my current thoughts and planning on. Instead of constantly thinking about this girl, I need to think about planning a fun trip to Colombia or Ukraine. I need to focus on opening an OK Cupid account, approaching any and all women I find attractive during the daytime ( I don't do night game)

I really do want to have a family one day and, even though I'm approaching my mid 40s, I realize if I develop the right mindset, and set goals and get out there and talk to more women, I will find the right companion.
I also realize I need to hit the weights more. I know things will get better with time and I think by absorbing the wisdom of this thread, I can quicken this process.

First of all, you should kneel and kiss the ground and thank God you didn't marry the lawyer. That's a mistake you can never recover from. She would have had kids and then invented some pretext to divorce you and rip your children away from you, leaving you a shell of a man the rest of your life. I am not joking.

Secondly, having an "intelligent" wife isn't actually all that great in the long run. I had an intelligent "girlfriend" and luckily didn't marry her. She's now a total bitch to the poor slob that did marry her.

I married the ultra-sweet, ultra-emotionally secure girl next door, who by the way is also a knockout. Classic women...amazing intuition, amazing empathy, but zero intellectualism. Wouldn't debate politics if you paid her. She bore me 2 amazing kids, nursed them and raised them, fought like a tiger for them and me.

Forget intellectual women. Forget girlfriends. Focus on finding a WIFE. Totally different things.

No, you don't have to go to Asia to find them. Plenty in the US, you just have to dig past the asshole feminist women and look for the sweet, quiet girls who want to get married. They will not be lawyers, doctors, or any of that shit. They are everywhere. They are perfectly happy to find a 40 year old guy if he's a man, and not a boy.

[Lemmo]

I don't really see the point of trying to nail down a wife simply because of a fear of declining SMV with age. If you want kids and want to get the best quality wife for that purpose, fine. But otherwise I don't see what problem is solved by tying yourself to a woman who will quickly age beyond physical attractiveness and will be empowered by the state to permanently cripple you financially. Statistically, most men who get married will end up divorced and as alone as men who never married but with a divorce rape under their belt. And I don't think guys are factoring in how much their interest in women is going to decline with age.

[Vaun]

(10-15-2014 09:03 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

I don't really see the point of trying to nail down a wife simply because of a fear of declining SMV with age.

I have seen a lot of bitter old married couples, and a few rare occasions of couples that age together and truly support and care for one another. The happy ones usually have a few things in common;

They own a business
They are upper middle class or above
They stayed in passionate expressive love
They have a clean home, usually traditional where the man was the breadwinner
The wife stayed attractive well past 60
They either went to college together, or, the women is 10-20 yrs younger
They generally live on the west coast

Not saying this is always the case, but maybe 2 out of 10 older couples I have met are like this. So.. if the odds are so low, why take the risk? I like the prospects of this, but its a risky proposition.

[robreke]

Cliché as it sounds, the key is to find someone you can be friends with. Good friends. Both of you are mentally and emotionally on the same wavelength.
You have similar senses of humor, get each other and just click. Obviously this must be confirmed over a good period of time and preferably while living together for a while before tying the knot. Another key is you also have your own activities to do from time to time away from each other with your respective friends.

[TravelerKai]

Rob you still don't get it, do you? Do you understand why you got dumped? If so let's hear it, because you won't find anyone respectable in this forum that would agree with that post.

[TravelerKai]

I know redpill is bitter and is too strong at first but if you do not get out of your beta tendencies, this world will either beat it out of you, or kill you with it. It's up to you.

[robreke]

(10-16-2014 03:14 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Rob you still don't get it, do you? Do you understand why you got dumped? If so let's hear it, because you won't find anyone respectable in this forum that would agree with that post.

I got dumped because I pursued her instead of the opposite. Are you saying a husband and wife shouldn't be friends on some level?

I don't think that means that the man is not the leader and she should be feminine. I just think there needs to be a friendship in any LTR. Are you saying that belief is blue pill and beta?

Please elaborate.

[TravelerKai]

My wife is my wife. My friends are my friends. It's completely different from the other.

A wife follows behind the man. A wife should be submissive. Do your friends follow you around behind you? Walking by your side is feminism junk they reinvented to pervert what was in the Bible historically.

Heck the Chinese women have a saying. The female monkey always follows close behind the male monkey.

Understand that I am not saying you cannot have conversation with a wife. Just do the turn her into a friend.

I have to go back to Texas shortly. I will expand on this when I get another chance. I am on a mobile device right
now.

Maybe some others can fill you in on what purpose a masculine man's purpose should be in a relationship with women until I get back.

[iknowexactly]

(10-15-2014 09:03 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

I don't really see the point of trying to nail down a wife simply because of a fear of declining SMV with age. ..... I don't see what problem is solved by tying yourself to a woman who will quickly age beyond physical attractiveness

The math of this just doesn't work after about 50 for the man.

Here's why: I'm dating 18-21 YO women in the Phils. I'm in my late 50s.

If the girl stays slim, she'll be attractive for about 15-20 more years.
At that point I'll be almost 80 and lucky if she's around to help me make withdrawals from my pensions and investments.

Best case I'll be a fairly asexual humorous codger. Her sexual attractiveness will be very low on my list of priorities.

(10-15-2014 09:03 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

and will be empowered by the state to permanently cripple you financially.

She's not going to be empowered by the State to do anything because all income was set up before I met her-- and who cares anyway, I'll be 80!

There is in the end no future to defend. They can only kill me once.

But they will kill me for sure, and until that day I'd like to have a cute woman around, and not think in terms of attributing bad faith to everyone.

The area where I agree with you is if there is a young man on the way up, maybe 26, marrying a harpy because she's hot and she's say 30. He's going to get taken to the cleaners.

[WestIndianArchie]

(10-16-2014 01:46 PM)robreke Wrote:  

Cliché as it sounds, the key is to find someone you can be friends with. Good friends. Both of you are mentally and emotionally on the same wavelength.
You have similar senses of humor, get each other and just click. Obviously this must be confirmed over a good period of time and preferably while living together for a while before tying the knot. Another key is you also have your own activities to do from time to time away from each other with your respective friends.

How many female friends do you have?
How do they compare to your male friends?

I've been in too many LTR's at this point, but the friend relationship, I'd take a bullet for ya, give you my last dollar....- this always seems to be something that women
1) expect
2) take advantage of

My boys don't treat me like the girls in my bed, the ones that profess their love for me.

Good girls, educated girls, girls with good families - don't treat me as well as my siblings or my parents, aunts, uncles, and grand parents.

You could point the finger at me. Maybe I need to "up my game"...but the man-woman relationship is different than a friendship.

I've dated lots of girls that don't
- compromise
- sacrifice
- share

They were otherwise decent human beings, but ultimately self-centered.

WIA

[Samseau]

(10-13-2014 08:54 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  

(10-08-2014 03:29 PM)Americas Wrote:  

Although I am a new member on this forum, one thing in particular I have noticed that is lacking in perspective is developing relationship skills somewhere along the lines in your 20s and 30s.

There seems to be a general disdain for "oneitis" but I don't think it's such a black and white issue. I think having a couple LTRs during your younger years is really important for when the time comes to actually settle down later in your life. Why you might ask?

Well...a lot of men on this board do seem to want to settle down at some point, whether that involves having children, getting married, or whatever. But the simple matter is that there are actually two components to game: pickup game (for getting girls) and relationship game (for keeping them around). There seems to be a lot of emphasis on the first on this board and not a lot for the latter. If you have relatively no relationship skills it is going to be very difficult to have a functional marriage for when you want it regardless of the girl you choose to do it with.

If you stay single almost your entirety of your life and just say "one day I'll get married and have kids" then you might be setting yourself up for disaster. Relationships are actually quite complex, and can only really be functional if you have some prior experience with them through trial and error.

I am 26 years old and by no means a relationship expert but I do have a one year+ relationship under my belt and I learned a shitload through that process. I think finding a girl that you really enjoy to be with and having a stable, and especially loyal (if she wants it that way that is), relationship is a really important life experience.

I mean, do you really think you can just crash course a marriage with kids with no prior or significant relationship experience in your repertoire? Women can be wily creatures and they can wear you down to a fraction of a man you once were if you don't know how to manage them in a serious relationship. And if you want children, having a strong and healthy relationship with their mother is truly vital to their development as human beings.

So I guess it's kind of just a throw of caution to the wind for some of you on here; if you find a girl you really like, test out the relationship waters, you might be surprised at how rewarding it can be. Of course, it can also be a total clusterfuck but it's worth the risk for the potential reward.

+1

For a man in his 20s, having an LTR provides an additional benefit in that it frees up his time to chase money.

Here's an example from my own life: I spent my late teens and early twenties taking the red pill, learning game, and cold approaching at bars/clubs/house parties/etc. After a few notches, I met a sweet, conservative, Christian virgin and I've been dating her for almost a year.

In addition to the aforementioned LTR experience, I was able to save thousands of dollars by cooking dinner at home, finding free activities to do during the day, watching Netflix on Saturday nights, etc. Not to mention the money saved on condoms.

This financial buffer allowed me to ditch my cushy corporate gig for a risky entrepreneurial venture that's just now starting to pay off.

I intend to move cities in May and return to being single, but so far the relationship has been an incredible learning experience, and it's helped me focus on setting a financial foundation that should support me for the rest of my life. Ideally, I spend the rest of my 20s working my ass off, so I can travel and game in my 30s and then perhaps find a wife and settle down in my early 40s.

This isn't to say LTRs are better than STRs/ONS. I think there's a balance to be found, and it's beneficial for a man to gain experience from both situations.

If you're thinking of throwing away an American virgin, you're probably making a huge mistake. I've been around the block several times and I've never encountered a virgin, although a few claimed they were. Did she bleed for you? If she didn't she's a liar. Too many girls lie about this stuff.

Regardless you won't find another virgin, and the next women you date will never be as attached as she is. You sound like a very inexperienced guy who is eager to play the field, but since you're in America I can spoil the surprise for you: The overwhelming majority of American women suck fucking ass, and masterbation is honestly better than most of them.

A better strategy is to cheat on her rather than dump her, so at least you can have your cake and eat it too. If you're the religious type who thinks, "But cheating is immoral!" Well guess what, dumping a woman is just as sinful. According to the Bible:

Matthew 5:27
"“It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’[f] 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

Although it is true you are not married, which does offer the possibility that Jesus was only talking about married couples; but back in those times there was no such thing as unmarried sexual relations unless it was prostitution. Indeed in other biblical verses (I can look this up if you need), it is said that a woman who sleeps with a man for no money is worse than a prostitute because she gives away her sex for free, while at least the whore gets something in return.

So by any religious interpretation, dumping her is as bad as cheating on her. And since if you cheat you can still have the option of keeping her, cheating is the better option from a religious standpoint.

And even if you aren't religious the Bible isn't my point; my point is it is far better to cheat than to throw away something virtually extinct in American society, which is the virgin.

Besides, chances are, she'll dump you along the road anyways. Remember that every whore is born a virgin and there's no telling how your chick will turn out. All I'm saying is, you'd be a fool to throw her away when cheating is a perfectly reasonable alternative. Also it will be interesting to see if she stays loyal because she is a virgin, or if she goes off searching for more cock because she is corrupted by American culture.

[robreke]

(10-16-2014 03:58 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 01:46 PM)robreke Wrote:  

Cliché as it sounds, the key is to find someone you can be friends with. Good friends. Both of you are mentally and emotionally on the same wavelength.
You have similar senses of humor, get each other and just click. Obviously this must be confirmed over a good period of time and preferably while living together for a while before tying the knot. Another key is you also have your own activities to do from time to time away from each other with your respective friends.

How many female friends do you have?
How do they compare to your male friends?

I've been in too many LTR's at this point, but the friend relationship, I'd take a bullet for ya, give you my last dollar....- this always seems to be something that women
1) expect
2) take advantage of

My boys don't treat me like the girls in my bed, the ones that profess their love for me.

Good girls, educated girls, girls with good families - don't treat me as well as my siblings or my parents, aunts, uncles, and grand parents.

You could point the finger at me. Maybe I need to "up my game"...but the man-woman relationship is different than a friendship.

I've dated lots of girls that don't
- compromise
- sacrifice
- share

They were otherwise decent human beings, but ultimately self-centered.

WIA

Great points and I'll concede that there is probably no woman, no woman who could be as good of a friend as a man's best friends or even good friends.

Upon reflection, what I'm saying is, if you want to have a LTR with a woman....you need to find a woman you can be friends with...and as good a friend as could be expected ....from a female. Albeit, it will never be as good as that with a good male friend.
But, it would obviously be more advantageous to the strength of the LTR with a woman if you found someone who, in a sense, had more "watered down" or tempered female attributes of being selfish, lack of compromise, lack of sharing. I realize these are female attributes to begin with, but perhaps by long term dating , there are women out there who would be less vicious than the mean average and the lucky man can weed them out.
So, it's kind of like , if you had to be locked in a cage with a lion, would you rather it be a wild one, or one who was a tamed, circus lion that was okay with children petting it? You're looking for the female who has shown she's not an over the top femicunt. But rather, as close to a "friend" as you could expect from the fairer sex. All the while, maintaining a dominate leadership frame in the relationship.

[iknowexactly]

(10-15-2014 08:42 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

...you just have to dig past the asshole feminist women and look for the sweet, quiet girls who want to get married. They will not be lawyers, doctors, or any of that shit. They are everywhere. They are perfectly happy to find a 40 year old guy if he's a man, and not a boy.

Great advice, don't bitch about the weeds, find the flowers + 1.

[Isaac Jordan]

@Samseau

I appreciate the advice, but I'm moving several states away and she's got another two years in med school. While it's going to be hard to let her go, I'm not interested in continuing the relationship.

Even if I was, this girl wants nothing more than to be a stay-at-home mom and I don't want a family for another fifteen years at the least. I'd rather part ways amicably so we can both pursue our goals, rather than cheat on her and risk ruining the best relationship either of us have either had just so I can get my dick wet with some strange. That will be happening anyway soon enough.

[Samseau]

(10-16-2014 09:46 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  

@Samseau

I appreciate the advice, but I'm moving several states away and she's got another two years in med school. While it's going to be hard to let her go, I'm not interested in continuing the relationship.

Even if I was, this girl wants nothing more than to be a stay-at-home mom and I don't want a family for another fifteen years at the least. I'd rather part ways amicably so we can both pursue our goals, rather than cheat on her and risk ruining the best relationship either of us have either had just so I can get my dick wet with some strange. That will be happening anyway soon enough.

Exactly, so she'll dump you in due time. There's basically no reason for you to end it. This is an advanced player principle but I digress. I'm gonna start a thread in the game forum about it.

[rudebwoy]

I think some of the younger guys need to hear both sides of the argument, as you get older there is no guarantee that you will find a decent girl in your 40s.
I don't do online game but I like to look, I see quite a few nice looking girls in their 20s who are quite specific about not wanting to date men of a certain age ( late 30s and early 40s ). Sure there are just as many that don't care but the 40s goes by a lot quicker than your 20s. The window is small, 39 seems a lot younger than 41.
The guy with the young virgin girlfriend may not realize what he has got until she has gone, the grass will not be greener on the other side. I love Samseau line about masturbation, it's so true.
A girl that wants to stay home is so much better than a career bitch,who will sleep with whoever in the office to get ahead.

[Travesty]

(10-16-2014 11:18 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I think some of the younger guys need to hear both sides of the argument, as you get older there is no guarantee that you will find a decent girl in your 40s.
I don't do online game but I like to look, I see quite a few nice looking girls in their 20s who are quite specific about not wanting to date men of a certain age ( late 30s and early 40s ). Sure there are just as many that don't care but the 40s goes by a lot quicker than your 20s. The window is small, 39 seems a lot younger than 41.
The guy with the young virgin girlfriend may not realize what he has got until she has gone, the grass will not be greener on the other side. I love Samseau line about masturbation, it's so true.
A girl that wants to stay home is so much better than a career bitch,who will sleep with whoever in the office to get ahead.

I am guessing the virgin in question would have to be physically attractive enough?

I banged a 6.0 and a 6.5 virgin in the last 3 months. Couldn't see staying with either long term I really need more attraction.

There was another virgin years ago when I was 21 she was 20. I didn't take hers due some lack of attraction she was also a 6.5.. I could have, we were dating, but I dropped her.

If she is hot to you sure, I get it. But mildly to decently attractive? And you have the player gene inside? Good fucking luck.

I would say the perfect window to find a wife and stay physically attracted as long as possible is starting to look for a wife in your early 30s. Find her by your mid 30s and try to get her 10-15 years younger.

Some age like 34 for the man and 22 for the woman to meet, date then get married a few years later. Close enough in age to relate, she is still youthful for as long as possible. Oh yeah and probably go Asian so she ages well.

[Sp5]

(10-16-2014 11:32 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 11:18 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I think some of the younger guys need to hear both sides of the argument, as you get older there is no guarantee that you will find a decent girl in your 40s.
I don't do online game but I like to look, I see quite a few nice looking girls in their 20s who are quite specific about not wanting to date men of a certain age ( late 30s and early 40s ). Sure there are just as many that don't care but the 40s goes by a lot quicker than your 20s. The window is small, 39 seems a lot younger than 41.
The guy with the young virgin girlfriend may not realize what he has got until she has gone, the grass will not be greener on the other side. I love Samseau line about masturbation, it's so true.
A girl that wants to stay home is so much better than a career bitch,who will sleep with whoever in the office to get ahead.

I am guessing the virgin in question would have to be physically attractive enough?

I banged a 6.0 and a 6.5 virgin in the last 3 months. Couldn't see staying with either long term I really need more attraction.

There was another virgin years ago when I was 21 she was 20. I didn't take hers due some lack of attraction she was also a 6.5.. I could have, we were dating, but I dropped her.

If she is hot to you sure, I get it. But mildly to decently attractive? And you have the player gene inside? Good fucking luck.

I would say the perfect window to find a wife and stay physically attracted as long as possible is starting to look for a wife in your early 30s. Find her by your mid 30s and try to get her 10-15 years younger.

Some age like 34 for the man and 22 for the woman to meet, date then get married a few years later. Close enough in age to relate, she is still youthful for as long as possible. Oh yeah and probably go Asian so she ages well.

I found a 42 year old virgin in Manila. Whether you believe me or not is not important, so please don't give me shit about that. I'm confident based on the experience she was a virgin. Her basic story is religious family, strict father, and working hard in a BPO.

So based on your age difference, I am right on target there, because I'm 58. I am ambivalent about having more kids, that's a separate discussion and can be resolved many ways.

She's also pretty smart, has a great English vocabulary and we have rapport. I flew her to Bangkok when I got bored with the women there and it was fun. Despite the inexperience, she's taken to sex pretty well and is very responsive to it.

I've been stringing her along for a year and a half now, of course she is pressing me for commitment, and I am open to it. One big thing in her favor is that she has skills that could get her good employment anywhere in the English speaking world. The idea of settling down with her, who I think would be absolutely devoted to me (and I could game and pre-nup to ensure she remained so) is attractive. Samseau's comment about the value of a virgin is operative even at that age, I think.

Then I look at IKE with much younger women and wonder whether I should be going that route.

[Yeti]

Sounds like it will never get any better, Sp5. If you want companionship with a good woman to the end, it sounds like this is your best chance.

[iknowexactly]

(10-17-2014 01:26 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

The idea of settling down with her, who I think would be absolutely devoted to me (and I could game and pre-nup to ensure she remained so) is attractive.
.......

Then I look at IKE with much younger women and wonder whether I should be going that route.

I hope things work out for you, I want to caution against using me as a model for happiness, I've got attachment issues (hard to feel comfortable enough with live with a woman, but get lonely without one) and there are definitely drawbacks to the younger women 18-21.

I think it's cross-cultural that they have one foot in the world of spoiled children everywhere. The haven't suffered enough alone in the world to have developed much in the way of compassion. I've accepted women are a bit dull-witted ( except at Candy Crush) but I'm seeing younger women have a coldness that moderates into their 20s sometimes at least. I think I see a bit more wisdom and warmth even at 22. I want someone I like being around emotionally.

At least here they relate in a superficially polite and deferential way, but the narcissism of youth is still there, just not in the brazen and arrogant way American girls show it. They also feel like the YoungTallCool foreigner just MIGHT be around the corner because of the infiltration of the FC and DIA.

They don't quite realize it's already too late for them to get Klaus YoungTallCool, as there won't be tons of expats here for a decade.

On the other hand, some in their mid twenties are full on ready to practically become willing slaves if you'll get them out of the hand-to-mouth lifestyle. They know they have like five minutes left.

The high birth rate of the Philippines means for every even marginally desirable expat like me on the ground here; probably hundreds of girls turn 18 every week. I look middle aged, but my hair and skin aren't disgusting. Many, many of the foreign guys i see here look absolutely terrible, stooped over, sallow pale skin, they walk like they have knee, hip or back problem, look late 60s and into their 70s.

[iknowexactly]

(10-16-2014 09:46 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  

@Samseau

I appreciate the advice, but I'm moving several states away and she's got another two years in med school. While it's going to be hard to let her go, I'm not interested in continuing the relationship.

Even if I was, this girl wants nothing more than to be a stay-at-home mom and I don't want a family for another fifteen years at the least. I'd rather part ways amicably so we can both pursue our goals, rather than cheat on her and risk ruining the best relationship either of us have either had just so I can get my dick wet with some strange. That will be happening anyway soon enough.

She CAN'T be a stay at home mom while she does her residency (3 years plus) if I understand how it works.. it's always 60 hour weeks. And few doctors ditch out right away affter getting a degree worth at LEAST $1000 per day pay.

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(10-18-2014 02:02 AM)Yeti Wrote:  

Sounds like it will never get any better, Sp5. If you want companionship with a good woman to the end, it sounds like this is your best chance.

Yeah I had a Filipina GF early 30s virgin and she was loyalty defined. She even hinted about how guys are allowed to have girlfriends in the Philippines, meaning she wouldn't care if I cheated. They can be really funny, fun, and down to the END. Don't throw it away lightly.

I must have been mad, I never knew what I had.