[Tengen]

[TravelerKai]

(09-19-2014 12:31 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

In any discussion of big asses, you have to define the "terms" well.

When I praise a girl for having a big ass, it's implied that she is not fat, that she is relatively slim.

Here is a pretty extreme (and amazing) example from the ass thread:



That's my ideal body for a girl - tall, skinny arms and waist, and a huge ass. An ass basically can't look bad if it's big and the girl is slim.

When guys rag on big asses, it's usually because they're picturing a FAT girl.

I agree the face and youth is paramount for beauty, especially for a long term relationship. But every girl can work towards a better ass and get results.

How tall are those girls? Does either one have a FUPA?

I personally hate photos of ass. Everyone photoshops alot here. I don't know how you guys can enjoy photos of this anymore. Only a moving picture tells the truth on ass.

It's all regional. Asians photo shop their eyes acne, and tits. Women here do their legs, waist, and ass.

[kinjutsu]

(09-19-2014 02:45 PM)Tengen Wrote:  

I fucking love that video.

I showed that to my main girl and she died laughing

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

IMHO the presence or absence of a nice ass can make or break an otherwise bad chick

+1.5 or -1.5

[Days of Broken Arrows]

How is this "hope for America?"

The focus on the butt is one of convenience for today's females. They've gotten much fatter and the ass is the one place you can point to as a positive when you gain weight as a woman.

If anything, I think this is a sign we're devolving into a Third World society (there was a previous thread on here long ago about this, so it's not my idea).

The way I see it is like this:

Butts: signify the primal and are preferred by very low class men and women.

Breasts: signify the maternal and are the preference of men from blue collar backgrounds who might be insecure and looking for mother figures (i.e. "I don't care if she's fat -- look at them boobs!").

Legs: long legs are a sign of good breeding and point to classiness in a woman.

Legs were a big deal in the 1980s. But we had a different society and different breed of woman back then. They were bred to be leaner, for one thing. Back then, a fat girl making a video like "All About That Bass" would have been laughed out of town. Now she's a celebrity.

This is not the sign of a society that's healthy -- in any sense of that word.

I'm all for slumming, but to see the entire country go in this direction is disheartening. It's also annoying when The New York Times puts its stamp of approval on a trend. There's usually an ulterior motive. See my sentence #1 for that motive.

Addendum: I forgot to mention large asses don't age well. Having seen my female classmates grow older ("My eyes, my eyes!!") I can tell you what's "hotttt" in that area at 18 becomes scary once the woman in question has pumped out a kid or three. You've been warned.

[AnonymousBosch]

(09-19-2014 03:21 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

How is this "hope for America?"

The focus on the butt is one of convenience for women. They've gotten much fatter and the ass is the one place you can point to as a positive when you gain weight as a woman.

If anything, I think this is a sign we're devolving into a Third World society (there was a previous thread on here long ago about this, so it's not my idea).

The way I see it is like this:

Butts: signify the primal and are preferred by very low class men and women.

Breasts: signify the maternal and are the preference of men from blue collar backgrounds who might be insecure and looking for mother figures (i.e. "I don't care if she's fat -- look at them boobs!").

Legs: long legs are a sign of good breeding and point to classiness in a woman.

Legs were a big deal in the 1980s. But we had a different society and different breed of woman than. They were bred to be leaner, for one thing. Back then, a fat girl making a video like "All About That Bass" would have been laughed out of town. Now she's a celebrity.

This is not the sign of a society that's healthy -- in any sense of that word.

I'm all for slumming, but to see the entire country go in this direction is disheartening. It's also annoying when The New York Times puts its stamp of approval on a trend. There's usually an ulterior motive. See my sentence #1 for that motive.

Yeah, I'm not buying the hype. What they're selling seems to be not the toned, proportionate arses of athletic women, but exaggerated, cartoonish hippo-esque arses. This gives overweight women a reason to think they're far higher value than they are, and just adds another, more socially-acceptable way for girls to attention whore.

Women have this delusion that if you squeeze fat, untoned flesh into leggings it becomes magically-tight, so get used to holding down your lunch on the street as fat girls think they're all that.

This trend is only being hyped because the standards it encourages are lower and take less discipline to achieve.

I also suspect this also has something to do with the progressive agenda to normalise anal sex as superior to Penis-In-Vagina. Anal sex: like trying to push a Doberman through a Doggy Door, while the Doberman shits on you.

For me: long, toned legs up to her ears, coupled with feminine deportment. Does she walk with feminine grace?

More my speed:

[Tengen]

^^

Thigh gap FTW

[Basil Ransom]

"What they're selling seems to be not the toned, proportionate arses of athletic women, but exaggerated, cartoonish hippo-esque arses. "

There is such a range of athletic women that athletic is practically meaningless. The ass of a weightlifter? The ass of a volleyball player? Of a sprinter? A marathon runner? An ass can be at once large and belong to an athlete.

To be sure, a big ass can be cover for a girl who is simply fat - thus my post before highlighting skinny girls with a big ass.

" Butts: signify the primal and are preferred by very low class men and women."

In an age when having any balls are principally limited to the lower classes, this is a compliment. Going "primal" in various ways is frequently doled out as advice here, so I fail to see the problem.

Although, I would bet ass-men are more prone to flings.

[presidentcarter]

(09-19-2014 03:40 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

More my speed:

[Blaster]

My theory on this is that butts have always been preferred, it was just considered more vulgar and was not discussed as overtly as today.

[POASTER]

This has been long coming.

The breakthrough pioneer was Sir Mix A Lot's magum opus "Baby Got Back" of course. To this day whenever I am on a dancefloor and this song gets played - and it always does - all the girls go wild, start grinding hard and singing along.

Twenty years of hip-hop culture permeating American society has taught us all the glories of DAT ASS. I welcome this trend. This is yet another example of African-American culture spilling over to White-American culture.

I think another reason is that naturally big boobs are just rare. Asses are more abundant, easier to achieve, and more enduring. That's why most of my guy friends say the same thing - ass is necessary and breasts are like the icing on the cake but not as necessary. What other choice is there?

Legs have been overshadowed in America which is unfortunate. I was never a big legs guy until I went to Europe, which forever traumatized me. Now I cannot be attracted to short girls anymore, like I used to be. Seeing so many long-legged girls over there forever altered my tastes.

So a lot of this stuff is just the effect of what you’re exposed to. Same with race. When I grew up in a really White neighborhood, those were the only girls I liked. Then I lived and worked in a Latina area and guess what? I developed a Latina fetish.

This trend just highlights how easily humans are influenced by environment and media, even when they think they are strong-willed.

[berserk]

Northern European bros, have you noticed a lot more ass on girls? I have been back and either my tastes have changed - noticing girls with bigger asses more, or a lot of young girls really have more ass. I see a lot more round big asses on the street, still with flat shoes and jeans instead of heels and tight skirts, but I'm not complaining.

[Veloce]

(09-19-2014 03:40 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

More my speed:

[Tuthmosis]

Dat ass reminds me of dis ass.

   

[Cattle Rustler]

(09-19-2014 03:55 PM)Tengen Wrote:  

^^

Thigh gap FTW

It's been so long since I've seen a thigh gap that I forgot what a thigh gap is....

[TravelerKai]

(09-19-2014 05:00 PM)POASTER Wrote:  

This has been long coming.

The breakthrough pioneer was Sir Mix A Lot's magum opus "Baby Got Back" of course. To this day whenever I am on a dancefloor and this song gets played - and it always does - all the girls go wild, start grinding hard and singing along.

Twenty years of hip-hop culture permeating American society has taught us all the glories of DAT ASS. I welcome this trend. This is yet another example of African-American culture spilling over to White-American culture.

I think another reason is that naturally big boobs are just rare. Asses are more abundant, easier to achieve, and more enduring. That's why most of my guy friends say the same thing - ass is necessary and breasts are like the icing on the cake but not as necessary. What other choice is there?

Legs have been overshadowed in America which is unfortunate. I was never a big legs guy until I went to Europe, which forever traumatized me. Now I cannot be attracted to short girls anymore, like I used to be. Seeing so many long-legged girls over there forever altered my tastes.

So a lot of this stuff is just the effect of what you’re exposed to. Same with race. When I grew up in a really White neighborhood, those were the only girls I liked. Then I lived and worked in a Latina area and guess what? I developed a Latina fetish.

This trend just highlights how easily humans are influenced by environment and media, even when they think they are strong-willed.

Is that a good thing? Does not look like it to me. Our Black American dysfunction spilling over into the greater population, all for what? Excess fat is not healthy or cool. Think of the stress excess weight puts on women's bodies. They are already petite. They have less dense bones than us. They cannot heft around that junk like we can. It even helps ruin their ovaries with cysts and floods their systems with more estrogen than necessary. Women by default store fat in the ass, pelvic, and tricep areas naturally. Processed carbs and sugars make it worse because the brain sends instructions to body to store this excess energy in those exact same areas, merely compounding the problem.

Yeah it feels fucking good letting a woman with a fat ass smash up and down. You'll bust a nut fast. But putting their asses on a pedestal feeds their hamsters. Ass worship is beta and is a kind of male hamster. We slam fat bitches all the time but worship their fat asses. A lizard that needs a paper bag on her face, gets the ok because "dat ass doe"?

Big breasts are rare because they are a natural occurrence that varies greatly in size regardless of BMI, within certain weight numbers. Asses are easy to achieve because it is lazy in nature to acquire one. Fat women cry all the fucking time when they lose weight and all of it happens in the breasts and not their fucking stomachs. You cannot fool the human body. It will burn up the easy fat first. Always.

If men are drunk or high enough, we would fuck damn near anything. I get that. We are all capable of slamming a slumpbuster when desperate. What we probably should be more careful about is not putting this dysfunction on a pedestal publicly. It undermines practically everything we stand for as redpill males. Black men need to start weening themselves off fat assed women. Other redpill men are doing their part, shunning ridiculous women and other fat women. We should start doing our part as well.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(09-19-2014 05:00 PM)POASTER Wrote:  

This has been long coming.

The breakthrough pioneer was Sir Mix A Lot's magum opus "Baby Got Back" of course. To this day whenever I am on a dancefloor and this song gets played - and it always does - all the girls go wild, start grinding hard and singing along.

Twenty years of hip-hop culture permeating American society has taught us all the glories of DAT ASS. I welcome this trend. This is yet another example of African-American culture spilling over to White-American culture.

......

This trend just highlights how easily humans are influenced by environment and media, even when they think they are strong-willed.

I'm old enough to remember when Sir Mix-A-Lot hit with "Baby's Got Back" in the spring of 1992.

I agree hip hop culture has influenced all of this. But there is a major difference between then and now.

Back then, "Baby's Got Back" was considered a quirky song about outliers. It was almost a novelty. And by "outliers," I mean the few women who had huge butts and the men who liked them. It was mostly "a black thing" -- as the old saying went -- but not even representative of the entire black community. The hottest black women back then -- like Vanessa Williams and Lisa Bonet -- weren't flaunting their butts.

Today, it's women singing or rapping about themselves with songs like Jennifer Lopez's "Booty" and Mindy what's-her-name's "All About That Bass" -- not men admiring those women. So it's morphed into a first-person form of self-love, especially since the songs are built around videos designed to go viral.*

Women can't really do this with breasts, because they're too sexual, or with legs, because that's too subtle. But butts give them the perfect excuse to celebrate themselves without shame. Not a good thing, IMO. And now we have the the New York Times calling it the new normal.

So, the big butt trend has gone from being a quirky thing we could smile at to being women justifying their own narcissism and (let's admit it) obesity. And recasting that as sexy. I like some of it too, but a little goes a long way.

And while that's not necessarily bad, what comes next will be what happened when gay culture went mainstream or when trans culture moved itself to the center. First came the calls for acceptance, then it became "accept it or else."

We've already got the fat acceptance movement and women whining trying to make themselves immune to criticism by crying "body shaming!" constantly. This is more ammo for them.

Choosing to like big butts is one thing, but the way American trends go we're not going to be allowed to have a choice pretty soon.

* As far as I can tell, this kind of self-absorption has no precedent in pop music. The Beatles had long hair, but didn't sing about it. Elvis shook his hips, but his songs weren't about that. Hell, even Madonna, queen of narcissism, sang songs directed at others, not herself.

A society in which women sing songs of self-love, IMO, is in a dire place and is going to create little monsters of its girls. As Roissy once wrote, the problem with women is too much self-esteem. Thank God I came of age in an earlier era. I can't believe I ever complained about Mariah or Alanis.

[RexImperator]

I think DOBA is right. The problem with this trend is that it can validate fat girls.

[HawkWrites]

(09-19-2014 11:56 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I think DOBA is right. The problem with this trend is that it can validate fat girls.

Can? Hell, with our experience it shall absolutely be will.

[AnonymousBosch]

(09-19-2014 11:24 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

* As far as I can tell, this kind of self-absorption has no precedent in pop music. The Beatles had long hair, but didn't sing about it. Elvis shook his hips, but his songs weren't about that. Hell, even Madonna, queen of narcissism, sang songs directed at others, not herself.

A society in which women sing songs of self-love, IMO, is in a dire place and is going to create little monsters of its girls. As Roissy once wrote, the problem with women is too much self-esteem. Thank God I came of age in an earlier era. I can't believe I ever complained about Mariah or Alanis.

I think all of these self-esteem anthems are a sign at how desperately unhappy the average modern woman is. Whatever they've been doing to build little girl's self esteem by telling them they can be anything since I was in school 30 years ago obviously isn't working, (and trust me, there was just as much handwringing about the tendency of women to be lazy, uncurious and mediocre intimidated out of following their dreams by evil men even back then).

Hell, my sister had an Astronaut Barbie in the 70's, (first manufactured in 1965).

[POASTER]

Allow me to clarify that what I "welcome" is what Basil described - fit athletic girls with toned bubble butts, not obese girls who happen to have big butts.

I agree that this could be misappropriated by feminazis.

[runsonmagic]

[Glaucon]

We all know what will be the end result of this:

Land whales in yoga pants because "I have a sexy big booty!" Eh...

[michelin]

Quote:

Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
How is this "hope for America?"

Any article showing a woman in the gym giving the example how to work out their body gives some hope. Not much, agreed, but some. Just like fat shaming, it might create some awareness among females that a change is needed.

[Jukes]

For a while, black women physical appearance and behavior are being copy by homosexuals and women.