[Lizard King]

I can't believe I watched all of Breaking Bad and didn't realise Don Eladio was Manolo from Scarface.

Very disappointed with myself.

[Felix88]

Guys, you forgot the more important point about his girlfriend

[Giovonny]

For guys over 35:

Does anyone have any fun, effective, and/or experimental strategies for getting 18-20 year olds?

My strategy of frequenting university campuses has worked well but I am always looking for better ideas.

I will soon be expanding into "online game".

Ideally, I would have been a rock star or movie star but I didn't have the foresight to go in that direction.

I tried to become a professional athlete but I wasn't good enough.

Now, I am just a regular 38 year old man who is attracted to 19 year olds.

I am always looking for new ideas..??

[samsamsam]

Gio, start taking acting classes.

Would be better if you lived in LA.

I have never taken any but have been to a couple showcases, all sorts of ages there.

[jordypip23]

(09-12-2014 04:41 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

QC, Steve Bauer is great and everything but let's not get carried away here -- there is a dude in Scarface that makes the movie great and unforgettable and a fundamental point of reference for many millions of people, and it ain't Bauer.

I think everyone acknowledges that Al Pacino is the bigger legend here obviously. But like Quintus Curtius pointed out, there was something about Manolo's smooth, laid back, optimistic charm that Tony Montana simply did not have in Scarface. He'd definitely be the more fun one to party with in South Beach (in character at least).

I think it is silly to keep comparing the two and try to determine who is superior. They each played their roles well & the two actors have the utmost respect for each other from what I've seen in interviews. Manolo would be the perfect sidekick or a 6th man on an NBA team. Actually he's more like the 2nd in command. The Scottie Pippen for the Michael Jordan. He'll get the job done, do it with a smile, and then go bang your sister. J/K lol.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-13-2014 12:55 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

For guys over 35:

Does anyone have any fun, effective, and/or experimental strategies for getting 18-20 year olds?

My strategy of frequenting university campuses has worked well but I am always looking for better ideas.

I will soon be expanding into "online game".

Ideally, I would have been a rock star or movie star but I didn't have the foresight to go in that direction.

I tried to become a professional athlete but I wasn't good enough.

Now, I am just a regular 38 year old man who is attracted to 19 year olds.

I am always looking for new ideas..??

Traveling often to countries where you have a higher SMV is always a good idea. When I moved to EE I was at first surprised that I could pull girls 20 years younger than me at the ages of 19-21. Also I considered being often in Las Vegas, which is something else in the US. Game is particularly easy there.

Long term my plan is simple money accumulation and build sort of an intermittent traveling Playboy lifestyle coupled with some traditional family life. We'll see if those two mix well long term.

Currently Steve Jabba (who is better looking than me and has of course way higher Game-level) & Krauser talk about pulling exactly those girls in their prime while being end 30s. They have some thoughts on that.

Another way is likely to be in a position of localized higher social status where you have access to girls of that age group. I've met a guy who opened a hostess & model agency - those for second and third tier models, but with plenty of beautiful girls. The company barely breaks even, but he meets all those girls as the owner. There are certainly other possibilities with less money being used.

I thought about opening a porn company for aspiring "actresses" since many girls are doing "one-and-done" shots and are certainly cute and innocent enough for my taste, but so far it was not necessary to attract those girls with that degree of money & situational Alpha status.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Gio,
The most foolproof way to get a new, if not never ending injection of sexy, sweet, feminine hard bodied 18-21 years in your life, is to hop on a plane to SEA, followed by South Amerca and EE.

Talent is way higher than anything you can see around you and the attitude is infinitely better.

You really are missing out and limiting yourself big time if your playground is limited to your local area or the US.

Browse through the pages of the travel forum and you'd have enough places to explore to keep you busy 26 lifetimes.

Start using your passport. It'll be the best thing you can do to elevate your quality of life as well as to substantially increase the quality of women in your life.

[puckerman]

(09-13-2014 12:55 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I will soon be expanding into "online game".

Don't do it. They aren't serious if they're online. It's also too easy to screen you out for age.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(09-13-2014 12:55 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

For guys over 35:

Does anyone have any fun, effective, and/or experimental strategies for getting 18-20 year olds?

My strategy of frequenting university campuses has worked well but I am always looking for better ideas.

I will soon be expanding into "online game".

Ideally, I would have been a rock star or movie star but I didn't have the foresight to go in that direction.

I tried to become a professional athlete but I wasn't good enough.

Now, I am just a regular 38 year old man who is attracted to 19 year olds.

I am always looking for new ideas..??

Gio,

Nice try but that "regular 38 year old man" shtick is not gonna fly here... I don't think there are too many regular 38 year old guys who are fucking 18 year old pussy and walking around campus shirtless like it was the most natural thing in the world... maybe there should be -- but there aren't.

On a serious note. I do have a suggestion to make.

I don't think you necessarily need new ideas or new ways of approaching 18 year olds. You are doing fine with them.

Rather than more breadth, what you need is more depth.

You need to find a really fine piece of 18-20 year old pussy and go deeper into it. The way to truly taste the sweetness of that pussy to the fullest is over time.

Find a girl who is really fine -- someone like that "give me pizza and spank my butt" girl from the 10 thread, you know the one I mean.

Go after her and lock her down and make her your sex slave for a full 6 months. Enslave her to your sexual appetites and quirks and keep her coming for more. Really savor that pussy in every one of its aspects, in all the ways that its lusciousness and juices can be drunk deeply by a man who loves and relishes young pussy over a long two seasons.

I think a way some players burn out is a lot of quantity, not enough quality and especially quality disclosed over time.

That is what I sense you need, and you can definitely pull it off and get it right where you are.

Make that your next challenge!

[iknowexactly]

(09-13-2014 10:28 PM)puckerman Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 12:55 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I will soon be expanding into "online game".

Don't do it. They aren't serious if they're online. It's also too easy to screen you out for age.

Actually my experience in the Philippines runs contrary to this, some online girls state outright they're open up to 60 or even more. If they have kids I don't like pump and dump so for me it's almost always useless, they're really worried about being abandoned AGAIN and need money for their kid.

But you're not wasting time with all online chicks, the investment per contact is tiny, and they are looking for adventure although 80% + ask for money if you're not YoungTallCool, you can screen for that they'll not only come to your hotel but will be your reliable girlfriend if you want. Caucasians have huge value, my wavy blond hair makes me practically Martian. Almost all Filipinos have straight black hair, so if you have wavy blond you are doing great.

I even saw a guy today in a nice hotel in Cebu walking on braces, in his 70s at least I guess with a cute 20-something following him. If they're serious Filipinas they will stay with you as your nurse as you age, I don't see how you can possibly rattle of the anti-NAWALT rhetoric when you see that up close.

It's just the truth. Not all women are like "that" (Carousel harpies.) As any serious student of human characteristics knows, everything from height to running speed is distributed on something like a bell curve. Narcissism in women is probably no different.

I broke the one-third-my-age-barrier last night (you have to be over 54 fo fit to be legal) , the hate is sweet--first because guess what young smartass-- YOU'LL be just as old as I am pretty soon( I hope you survive), and, you may well be a mortgage slave treadmill denizen--I'm not; the only downside is concern for my security sometimes but Filipinos are pretty good sports a lot of the guys just grin at me.

The FIRST really cute 18 year old (I'm 58 but with really cool hair hahaha) I cold opened at a mall store gave me her phone and is meeting me and has agreed on text to be my girlfriend!!

That fresh skin gawdd.. wish I was as horny as I used to be...

[iknowexactly]

(09-13-2014 12:55 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

For guys over 35:

Does anyone have any fun, effective, and/or experimental strategies for getting 18-20 year olds?
..........

Now, I am just a regular 38 year old man who is attracted to 19 year olds.

I am always looking for new ideas..??

It's not rocket science-- at all.

1) Establish 20k+ in savings or a passive income $1000+ monthly
2) Go to Orbitz.com and book a flight to Manila or Cebu
3) Walk up cold to the cutest girls working at the malls and say "You're cute, do you have a boyfriend?"

I did this (at 58 YO) yesterday with a luscious girl-next-door beauty ( not hapa, but adorable huge lips, perfect velvet skin, big expressive eyes and tight body) . I'm 35 lbs over weight.

She smiled and said "No. I'm looooooking" in a totally sweet flirtatious way.

I wish wish wish I had been here 15-20 years ago when I could fuck every night. Instead I suffered subtle mocking and sexual deprivation from carousel fans for being under 6 ft and not a swaggering Alpha.

What a huge, huge thing to miss out on in life. Tragic.

While you're forced to be in the First World of Femcentrism, make the most of it for sure, but in the large sense:

You're on the wrong planet, breathing the wrong atmosphere. You're a palm tree in the Yukon. All the intellectual debate in the world can't make a huge enough difference to cause a bad environment to be good.

Just look at the fact that Roosh, who is essentially a professional in the social skills area, and is SomewhatyoungTallCool STILL chooses to remain overseas for the most part. If someone like that makes that choice, what's the optimal choice for someone more average?

[Vacancier Permanent]

IKE,
Awesome to hear man! Happy to read about up your successes!

Post more about your adventures in Cebu on the Phils thread. It would be of high interest to a lot of guys in here!

[Vacancier Permanent]

(09-14-2014 12:18 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

It's not rocket science-- at all.

1) Establish 20k+ in savings or a passive income $1000+ monthly
2) Go to Orbitz.com and book a flight to Manila or Cebu
3) Walk up cold to the cutest girls working at the malls and say "You're cute, do you have a boyfriend?"

I did this (at 58 YO) yesterday with a luscious girl-next-door beauty ( not hapa, but adorable huge lips, perfect velvet skin, big expressive eyes and tight body) . I'm 35 lbs over weight.

She smiled and said "No. I'm looooooking" in a totally sweet flirtatious way.

And that 20K will give you one full year of living it up like a KING for a whole year in most of SEA! Use that time efficiently to also either learn a skill and or get some online steam of income going.

Heck, if you don't have 20K or a whole year, even 10K will buy you a BRILLIANT 6 months in most of SEA where you'd have THE time of your life!

[iknowexactly]

(09-14-2014 12:26 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

And that 20K will give you one full year of living it up like a KING for a whole year in most of SEA! Use that time efficiently to also either learn a skill and or get some online steam of in me going.

Heck, if you don't have 20K or a whole year, even 10K will buy you a BRILLIANT 6 months in most of SEA where you'd have THE time of your life!

This is a good point, even if you aren't at the point I'm at- where I really never have to go back- even just ONE visit to the Non-Femcentric world will make you realize even though you're trapped in the USA to make money for a time, there is ALWAYS SOMEPLACE BETTER WAITING.

After my first visit to Russia in 1993, American women became sort of invisible to me, because I knew there was so much better elsewhere.

It's like the difference between knowing you'll go water-skiing after work in a neon lit office, and feeling like you've got to sleep in that office and never get out hahaha.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-13-2014 09:21 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Gio,
The most foolproof way to get a new, if not never ending injection of sexy, sweet, feminine hard bodied 18-21 years in your life, is to hop on a plane to SEA, followed by South Amerca and EE.
...

I plan to move to Asia in the next 5-10 years. I have a thing for Japanese girls, but SEA is fine for me too.

My friend's father lives in Singapore and always has 20-something girlfriends while being over 60 now. He is quite wealthy, but I am sure the same thing is possible for less further south.

The only thing that is necessary is to stay in good shape, workout and eat well & do good supplements. I've seen gigantic differences in how guys feel after first taking my recommended set of orthomolecular supplements. One described it as flying every day (he is 57) as he goes to work as a mechanical engineer.

[samsamsam]

(09-14-2014 12:56 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The only thing that is necessary is to stay in good shape, workout and eat well & do good supplements. I've seen gigantic differences in how guys feel after first taking my recommended set of orthomolecular supplements. One described it as flying every day (he is 57) as he goes to work as a mechanical engineer.

Zelcorpion, could you elaborate on the supplements? I am not 57 but am intrigued. Thanks!

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-14-2014 09:30 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(09-14-2014 12:56 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The only thing that is necessary is to stay in good shape, workout and eat well & do good supplements. I've seen gigantic differences in how guys feel after first taking my recommended set of orthomolecular supplements. One described it as flying every day (he is 57) as he goes to work as a mechanical engineer.

Zelcorpion, could you elaborate on the supplements? I am not 57 but am intrigued. Thanks!

I really have to do the Supplementation Datasheet.

To put it shortly: You take orthomolecular doses by good producers (very important) like Swanson, Nowfoods, Youngevity, Awesomesupplements, Nutrivene etc.

The most important ones are:

- Multivitamin - high-potency one
- Vitamin D3 5000IU - if not enough sun exposure
- Magnesium & Calcium (in high quality) 300mg / 600-1000mg
- EFA - Essential Fatty Acids like Omega 3 - depending on body 500mg to 1500mg daily
- Zinc 50-70mg as a man
- Vitamin B-12 extra once weekly at doses of 2,5g+
- Vitamin E 400-600IU from ages 30+ (200IU being minimum, but almost all need more)
- Vitamin C prophylactic doses of 2.000-10.000mg daily depending on a variety of factors like age, stress-level, toxicity of food, physical activity, sexual activity (strong immune system protects against STD infection - just fucking someone infected does not make you get it - only if your immune system is not strong enough)
- Amino-Acids - best all 20 of them in doses of 500mg to 3000mg depending on workout-level and age

There is of course more to it, but those are the main ones. Some producers like Awesomesupplements have many of those included into the Multivitamin, but usually all it taks is couple of tablets and capsules daily.

[RawGod]

(09-14-2014 12:08 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

The FIRST really cute 18 year old (I'm 58 but with really cool hair hahaha) I cold opened at a mall store gave me her phone and is meeting me and has agreed on text to be my girlfriend!!

That fresh skin gawdd.. wish I was as horny as I used to be...

Amazing isn't it.

If you are 55+ and want 18-20 year old women, either:

A) Have very high status, such as multimillionaire business owner, or starring in a movie with Al Pacino. Have a thick skin for the haters, some game, and spend lots of money on your lifestyle.

or

B) Turn up in the Philippines.

Think I'll strive and strive and one day I might be like Steve Bauer!

On second thoughts...nah.

[ColSpanker]

I just found my quote of the day from IKE:
"All the intellectual debate in the world can't make a huge enough difference to cause a bad environment to be good."

[bojangles]

i would say don't do online in the West as it's quite difficult for me even at 30 for 18-21, whilst in person it's so much more simpler, you're already doing well during the daygame. Give it a try yourself and see it how it goes though, it's another avenue for pussy as you say.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-15-2014 01:33 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

i would say don't do online in the West as it's quite difficult for me even at 30 for 18-21, whilst in person it's so much more simpler, you're already doing well during the daygame. Give it a try yourself and see it how it goes though, it's another avenue for pussy as you say.

Doing online Game as an older guy is worth shit. You would have to lie about your age tremendously, as girls will find plenty of mental reasons to discard you.

Pro-PUA Steve Jabba said that he tanked completely on Tinder as if he was invisible, while consistently pulling on Night- and Daygame in London. Tinder might work as an older guy if you are in the very top top looks of Game or have very strategic pics selected displaying massive wealth etc. Also a lot of 18-22 year olds have age filters and they often don't go beyond 30. Plus you really cannot convey Game, self-confidence and other important attraction points for a man over a picture.

Maybe if you hire a company who deals with all the online-bullshit and gets you the clear numbers for some Game, then it might be worth it. Also of course doing it like the Swooptheworld crew focusing on EE, FSU, Asia, South America and instantly supplementing contacts via Skype or other means of video communication. That might actually work well. An unknown Steve Bauer in SEA might also do well there online.

[Nomad77]

I asked this 18 yr old girl I know what she thought about this and she said, hey, as long as they love each other it was fine and it was their business. More and more, I am seeing this attitude with young girls. They really don't seem to care about age, race, religion, and they all seem to think it's ok to be bi-sexual.

[CactusCat589]

I know he has fame up to the balls, but I'm still surprised. I was thinking he'd pick a woman precisely in the 28 year-old carousel retiree mould with some kind of faux-respectable non-job. Like the most recent George Clooney acquisition.

It'd be acceptable (people would STILL be "She's so much younger, he ought to be in jail") and he wouldn't be pushing the envelope that much, but nope. Goes straight for the 18 year-old.

That, is inspiring. He will not accept anything less than the best. He didn't even pick a 19 or 20 year-old which would be ever so slightly more palatable. He will not even dignify the idea that a woman's value as a mate stems from anything other than her youth and beauty.

The only thing is that she doesn't look super happy. I would venture to guess she'd prefer the Scarface-age version of Bauer. But she values being with the 3x older alpha male more than society's judgment.

Game recognized, Mr. Bauer.

[iknowexactly]

(09-14-2014 12:56 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(09-13-2014 09:21 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Gio,
The most foolproof way to get a new, if not never ending injection of sexy, sweet, feminine hard bodied 18-21 years in your life, is to hop on a plane to SEA, followed by South Amerca and EE.
...

I plan to move to Asia in the next 5-10 years. I have a thing for Japanese girls, but SEA is fine for me too.

Caveat: I'm just writing from observation of Japanese girls in the Philippines, and haven't expended real effort in Japan due to the wealth of the country and me being in 50s. I imagine guys with more experience in Japan will explain how hard it is to get J girls in a very wealthy country with a dearth of young people.

Japanese girls are SO smoking. I'm in a high end hotel in Cebu Philippines and doing well with Filipinas, but the Japanese girls staying at the hotel are SO good looking.. tall with long firm legs due to great nutrition, exquisite manners, and many with near perfect skin due to very low sun exposure. Plus the bonus is I hear they like/tolerate really nasty kinky stuff.

If you're about to age out of the 18-24 girl market in America (you're 35-45)and are trying to nail down a high end girl for LTR and aren't a boob man, I would highly recommend trying for Japanese but screen for crazies.

I think there's pretty low divorce rate and the competition is far weaker than in the USA with all these 6'3" and in the last 10 years, 6'5" guys raising the bar for men. What used to be very tall (6'3") seems so common now in USA.

[Giovonny]

(09-13-2014 02:48 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Gio, start taking acting classes.

Great suggestion.

I'm not going to do it but it's a great idea.

I do hang around university drama classes occasionally.

(09-13-2014 03:03 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Traveling often to countries where you have a higher SMV is always a good idea.

Yes, traveling is something that I will definitely do more of as I get older.

I did live in Brazil for 6 months and the young girls were phenomenal!

(09-13-2014 11:53 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

what you need is more depth.

Yes, this is what I'm doing now.

Instead of just trying for more notches, I am now trying to date them and have a more intimate connection with them. It's a lot of fun to date a younger girl.

As you said, more depth.

I have an 18yo right now who is into "bdsm". She has introduced me into the world "DDLG". Google it. This girl literally wants to be submissive to an older man.

That's the kind of "depth" that I like!