[MaxRitter]

you say you are attracted to the feminine features, boobs etc.... but these dudes have dicks! am I wrong? dont have much experience with trans the ones I met in the US looked like drag queens. so if you undressed this super feminine "girl" and saw a dick would you still bang it? I know I would most likely vomit and then kick the guy out for good. pansexual, bisexual, jesus whats happening to the world? US indeed got so brainwashed with the lgbt agenda guys are loosing their masculinity.

however if lets say I banged a girl who had all the female parts but was once a dude... Im not sure if its possible because I bang 17 and 19 year olds quite often and you kind of see they are daisy fresh girls. but still if one of my lovers turned out to be a dude I would feel cheated, lied on and betrayed and used. its like what the other member wrote about being fooled into sex with your mom or your sister or smth like that. technically maybe not so bad but morally absolutely horrible. plus I hate liars. If a trans dude played me like that I would sue him. we forgive that type of shit and they get carried away. I dont hate the trans community I just believe if you decided to become a girl you must know if you start looking for sraight guys most of them want normal females not overmade dudes on hormones. so you have to be honest straight upfront about being a trans. otherwise its straight up lying and may lead to violence. if you dont want to deal with that shit, just be a drag queen and fuck with gay boys. just my opinion.

[DevonHardy]

(07-15-2014 11:48 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Right on. Kudos to you for being up front and at peace about it. It's guys like you that hopefully save me from having to ever have even close to that experience. This is similar for my attitude towards gay guys. Why would I ever care that there's less guys I have to compete with for the attractive women?

I think this is also why I find girls with smaller noses more attractive. It's feminine to me. Every one of those pictures you posted, the girl has a decent size to large nose.

Lol it works both ways bro! Less competition and more for me. And oh yeah those pics in my last post are all guys.

(07-16-2014 02:28 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

you say you are attracted to the feminine features, boobs etc.... but these dudes have dicks! am I wrong? dont have much experience with trans the ones I met in the US looked like drag queens. so if you undressed this super feminine "girl" and saw a dick would you still bang it? I know I would most likely vomit and then kick the guy out for good. pansexual, bisexual, jesus whats happening to the world? US indeed got so brainwashed with the lgbt agenda guys are loosing their masculinity.

however if lets say I banged a girl who had all the female parts but was once a dude... Im not sure if its possible because I bang 17 and 19 year olds quite often and you kind of see they are daisy fresh girls. but still if one of my lovers turned out to be a dude I would feel cheated, lied on and betrayed and used. its like what the other member wrote about being fooled into sex with your mom or your sister or smth like that. technically maybe not so bad but morally absolutely horrible. plus I hate liars. If a trans dude played me like that I would sue him. we forgive that type of shit and they get carried away. I dont hate the trans community I just believe if you decided to become a girl you must know if you start looking for sraight guys most of them want normal females not overmade dudes on hormones. so you have to be honest straight upfront about being a trans. otherwise its straight up lying and may lead to violence. if you dont want to deal with that shit, just be a drag queen and fuck with gay boys. just my opinion.

For me femininity isn't necessarily tied to genitalia (sounds weird I know), but that's just me.

And lol I haven't lost any of my masculinity and neither has the US. I still lift weights and like my normal girls (and I get my fair share of them), but I simply don't (and won't) pass up the opportunity to date a girl because she's "trans" or whatever. Ironically enough most trans girls start transitioning at 17-19, I'm 19 so I could care less. But, if you live in a pretty large town or medium-large city you're likely to encounter one, you probably won't be able to notice though.

However, I will say this. I set a few requirements before pursuing any type of relationship with a trans girl.

1) I must never see your before pics (her when she was a "guy") However, I'm fine with her being Pre-OP.
2) You must always stay passable and feminine when I'm around you.

Also, gay guys aren't into "drag queens" or any sort of feminine looking guy or trans girl, from what I understand they prefer masculine guys or "bears", something I'd never be attracted to. Which ties back into the feminine features argument.

[Benoit]

(07-16-2014 05:00 AM)DevonHardy Wrote:  

But, if you live in a pretty large town or medium-large city you're likely to encounter one, you probably won't be able to notice though.

1) I must never see your before pics (her when she was a "guy") However, I'm fine with her being Pre-OP.
2) You must always stay passable and feminine when I'm around you.

This sounds more like you're wilfully blinding yourself to the fact they're men rather than not being able to notice.

If the 'transition' was really that perfect then pre-op pictures would look like their brother, not like them as a man.

Those pictures you posted look convincing, but they're carefully selected stills. 100% of SIFs rely on the fact that hand-picked pictures can tell a convincing lie. But it's still a lie.

If they're open with you and you're OK with that, then good for you, I genuinely hope you're happy.

But it's still gay to bang a dude and the fact that you think it doesn't make you bisexual at least...


Try showing off your 'girlfriend' and telling people "she used to be a man, can you believe it?" - do you really think they won't think "this guy is a fruit"?

[MaxRitter]

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For me femininity isn't necessarily tied to genitalia (sounds weird I know), but that's just me.

And lol I haven't lost any of my masculinity and neither has the US. I still lift weights and like my normal girls (and I get my fair share of them), but I simply don't (and won't) pass up the opportunity to date a girl because she's "trans" or whatever. Ironically enough most trans girls start transitioning at 17-19, I'm 19 so I could care less. But, if you live in a pretty large town or medium-large city you're likely to encounter one, you probably won't be able to notice though.

However, I will say this. I set a few requirements before pursuing any type of relationship with a trans girl.

1) I must never see your before pics (her when she was a "guy") However, I'm fine with her being Pre-OP.
2) You must always stay passable and feminine when I'm around you.

Also, gay guys aren't into "drag queens" or any sort of feminine looking guy or trans girl, from what I understand they prefer masculine guys or "bears", something I'd never be attracted to. Which ties back into the feminine features argument.
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you didnt answer my question..... you mean you are able to date a trans girl with a dick???? how are you going to have sex with her?

no USA isnt completely losing its masculinity but the barriers between the genders are becoming more washed out. feminazis and gays have won and I dont understand what this forum is even about if you lot are happy with the way things are in the world... why to even bother searching for traditional family minded women when you can be just as happy with a trans? I mean you may as well date a feminist she is in a way a woman with balls (methaphorically speaking but still). you re gay or at least bi.

nothing wrong with it and you can be/do whatever you want, I just wonder what the purpose of this forum is... I thought it was about the manosphere, red pill movement etc... Im not a homophobe I just believe if a man calls himself a man he should at least try to maintain the image of a traditional man, not neccessarily alpha but still...

[Beyond Borders]

I'm actually glad to see someone who's into this posted, as I knew there were some of you fucking weirdos out there (just giving you shit), and I assumed none would have the balls (pun intended) to admit it.

Living in Thailand, etc, you hear a lot about very masculine, cool, and good-looking guys that like ladyboys and don't consider themselves gay. I always wondered where that mentality comes from, as it really makes no sense to me.

So here's to hoping this poster doesn't get banned because his contribution is at least interesting. lol

(07-16-2014 06:07 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

you didnt answer my question..... you mean you are able to date a trans girl with a dick???? how are you going to have sex with her?

no USA isnt completely losing its masculinity but the barriers between the genders are becoming more washed out. feminazis and gays have won and I dont understand what this forum is even about if you lot are happy with the way things are in the world... why to even bother searching for traditional family minded women when you can be just as happy with a trans? I mean you may as well date a feminist she is in a way a woman with balls (methaphorically speaking but still). you re gay or at least bi.

nothing wrong with it and you can be/do whatever you want, I just wonder what the purpose of this forum is... I thought it was about the manosphere, red pill movement etc... Im not a homophobe I just believe if a man calls himself a man he should at least try to maintain the image of a traditional man, not neccessarily alpha but still...

Jeez, Man, would you stop with the sky is falling in the states shit. One guy being open to ladyboys and a few others saying they could care less about what other people do doesn't spell the end of masculinity for the US and make everyone in the manosphere a homo.

I mean, what are you European? Give me break - European dudes have been bobbing each other's knobs for centuries now.

And I've seen plenty that are far from what I'd call a case study for masculinity...

I mean, are you really implying that America is more over-run with gays and feminists than Europe? Are we talking about the same continents here?

[HankRearden]

BB, I totally agree with you on how Asia really chills one's homophobia out big time. If anything you learn to just accept these people and, as it happens, ladyboys are actually hilarious and love fucking with tourists (no pun intended) who don't have a clue.

I still don't know how I feel about trans people overall. I think I pity them mainly. It must be terrible - so terrible - to be convinced mentally that you're one gender but physically look like another. Then again, I wonder if the increase in surgeries is also linked to more of it being a fad, or based on cultural changes, than on purely biological grounds. Were there less trans people in the pass because of repression, or because they simply weren't truly of that belief? I don't know.

I'm also still unsure if I support the funding for these surgeries that comes from the UK/Canadian governments. In the province of Ontario, Canada, these operations are funded 100% by taxpayers. Tough call. On one hand, it might be classed as a mental disability or psychological problem; on the other, it is a cosmetic surgery and expensive as hell, not to mention there are tons of people who would oppose it on religious/moral grounds.

[MaxRitter]

(07-16-2014 06:43 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

I'm actually glad to see someone who's into this posted, as I knew there were some of you fucking weirdos out there (just giving you shit), and I assumed none would have the balls (pun intended) to admit it.

Living in Thailand, etc, you hear a lot about very masculine, cool, and good-looking guys that like ladyboys and don't consider themselves gay. I always wondered where that mentality comes from, as it really makes no sense to me.

So here's to hoping this poster doesn't get banned because his contribution is at least interesting. lol

(07-16-2014 06:07 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

you didnt answer my question..... you mean you are able to date a trans girl with a dick???? how are you going to have sex with her?

no USA isnt completely losing its masculinity but the barriers between the genders are becoming more washed out. feminazis and gays have won and I dont understand what this forum is even about if you lot are happy with the way things are in the world... why to even bother searching for traditional family minded women when you can be just as happy with a trans? I mean you may as well date a feminist she is in a way a woman with balls (methaphorically speaking but still). you re gay or at least bi.

nothing wrong with it and you can be/do whatever you want, I just wonder what the purpose of this forum is... I thought it was about the manosphere, red pill movement etc... Im not a homophobe I just believe if a man calls himself a man he should at least try to maintain the image of a traditional man, not neccessarily alpha but still...

Jeez, Man, would you stop with the sky is falling in the states shit. One guy being open to ladyboys and a few others saying they could care less about what other people do doesn't spell the end of masculinity for the US and make everyone in the manosphere a homo.

I mean, what are you European? Give me break - European dudes have been bobbing each other's knobs for centuries now.

And I've seen plenty that are far from what I'd call a case study for masculinity...

I mean, are you really implying that America is more over-run with gays and feminists than Europe? Are we talking about the same continents here?

well the laws here are less draconic than in the states, but overall lots of feminists which is smth Ive been saying multiple times. here gay people just dont get as much exposure as in the US and no US is not some gay filled country that is "falling into sins" and stuff like that. but things do change and not for the best, men do get discriminated against and many other things are happening both in europe and the us which I disagree with, thats why I registered on this forum to discuss it. and Im not hating on the members who like trans boys Im just trying to understand.... so many posts on how alpha a man should be, how he should game chicks left right and center and now this.... maybe some peoples definition of masculinity isnt the same as mine. and hell no I never said europe is some puritannic place. divorce laws are a bit better, the rest is similiar to the US

[MaxRitter]

(07-16-2014 07:29 AM)HankRearden Wrote:  

I still don't know how I feel about trans people overall. I think I pity them mainly. It must be terrible - so terrible - to be convinced mentally that you're one gender but physically look like another. Then again, I wonder if the increase in surgeries is also linked to more of it being a fad, or based on cultural changes, than on purely biological grounds. Were there less trans people in the pass because of repression, or because they simply weren't truly of that belief? I don't know.

I'm also still unsure if I support the funding for these surgeries that comes from the UK/Canadian governments. In the province of Ontario, Canada, these operations are funded 100% by taxpayers. Tough call. On one hand, it might be classed as a mental disability or psychological problem; on the other, it is a cosmetic surgery and expensive as hell, not to mention there are tons of people who would oppose it on religious/moral grounds.

see thats the thing. a lot of those trans boys/girls get so much exposure on TV it becomes part of the mainstream culture, almost a "trendy" thing nowadays to be gay or bi or trans, not like everyone else. come out as gay and people will go like"oooh thats awesome!". tom daley a brozne medal swimmer became a celebrity just because he s gay.

lots of attention hungry teenagers maybe affected by this. Im not saying watching a show about trans people will cause them want to cut their dick off but a lot of teens go through period of self identity search and they should be firmly directed into the norms of their own gender. if they still end up gay or trans - fine, at least parents can say they ve tried to raise thier son/daughter in a traditional way. but when I saw moms in the us who openly embraced their sons deisre to dress up in girly clothes it made me feel uncomfortable. tbh. as for public funding of trans sergeries it seems to me a total joke. first I wonder how many of those trans dudes even got tested properly if they really wanted to do this and go through a surgery. if canada can afford this fine, but I hope we wont have to fund it here in germany (allthough maybe its already part of reality I dont know) however trans people here can have surgery at 15..... ugh weird.

[Beyond Borders]

(07-16-2014 07:35 AM)MaxRitter Wrote:  

well the laws here are less draconic than in the states, but overall lots of feminists which is smth Ive been saying multiple times. here gay people just dont get as much exposure as in the US and no US is not some gay filled country that is "falling into sins" and stuff like that. but things do change and not for the best, men do get discriminated against and many other things are happening both in europe and the us which I disagree with, thats why I registered on this forum to discuss it. and Im not hating on the members who like trans boys Im just trying to understand.... so many posts on how alpha a man should be, how he should game chicks left right and center and now this.... maybe some peoples definition of masculinity isnt the same as mine. and hell no I never said europe is some puritannic place. divorce laws are a bit better, the rest is similiar to the US

Ok, I gotcha. Appreciate the reasoned response, as I know I kind of put you on the spot.

I'm just saying let's not read too much into it though. A thread or two about ladyboys doesn't mean it's some recurring thing here, and when it does come up, it's usually in reference to members who reign in Southeast Asia (quite a few of us) and actually encounter this type of thing enough to joke or talk about it.

There is still far more talk about masculine subjects going on than gay ones, so I wouldn't give up on the men of the forum quite yet.

[Yatagan]

(07-15-2014 09:40 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I don't think the problem is that they're Transgender, the fucking problem is that they were once a guy. I can't remember what blogger said it, but how would you feel if someone took your mom or dad, made them extremely sexually appealing, hooked you up with them, and, in the middle of your love-making, told you that this person was actually your dad/mom?

You'd be pretty pissed off. I have nothing against the Transgender community, but I think it's a bit unfair that they're so interested in banging guys who want actually girls and not a transgender girl.

That said, if I got hammered and almost banged a trans, then the joke is on me. I'd kindly get the fuck out or tell them to get the fuck out and think nothing of it.

They still are. Their cosmetic surgery changes nothing.

[Fortis]

^ Exactly.

Nothing against them, as long as they don't try to bang me.

[kosko]

Lulz @devonhardy

I remember him posting asking about Intel in Canadian cities. He posted his pic asking for bad newbie advice. Fast forward to know and he shows no qualms in being down with trannies. Lol. His pic is still in that post too.

Dudes can try to rationalize it all the want but trannys arnt "femenine" you can't fake the real deal. Even women look and act like fools when they try to NOT be feminine. And no matter how much estrogen a dude pumps into himself he Will still have man hands and man proposrtions. Look at the rugged and big veiny hands the trannys have in those pics. Its to obvious. A woman will always have small petite hands.

[Cr33pin]

I'm pretty sure I got a hand job from a lady boy in Hong Kong, then almost jumped by its 70 year old Madam and her army of lady boys in lingerie. I didn't know guys could get their Adams apple removed, I was fooled.

How do I handle it, I laugh and tell the story as often as possible.

I also gave all my Hong Kong dollars to a Arabian street magician in Kowloon Park

Both of the above things happened to me in the first 24 hours of being in a new country for the first time. It worked out well tho cause I got it all out of my system and the next 6 months in Asia went well.