[simondice]

(06-21-2014 07:32 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

I'd bang the hell out of Marrisa Meyer

I would too, but to say that 'empowered' women are your ideal type is trolling on pro mode

[InternationalPlayboy]

(06-21-2014 10:18 PM)simondice Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 07:32 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

I'd bang the hell out of Marrisa Meyer

I would too, but to say that 'empowered' women are your ideal type is trolling on pro mode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcSujceZDmg

That laugh

[Skotch]

(06-20-2014 02:03 PM)agentaika Wrote:  

So I'm almost 40. When I meet a vapid nightclub girl with her ass out, my mind still goes into "pump-n-dump" mode. But as I've gotten older, I've been desiring girls with more substance — who I can have a genuine conversation with. I was talking with a friend about this, who reached this point before I did. He did tons of fucking in high school, and after college he began seeking monogamous, noncommittal relationships. And he's been doing fine.

What are your thoughts on this? Good or bad?

It's not beta to seek meaningful relationships. It means you can see past beauty and don't pedestalize women. I'm in my 20s and I'm already sick of dumb hotties. I've gotten to the point where I won't see most girls ever again if they don't put out by the second date... And even if the do put out, I typically won't see them again.

It's natural to hit a point where those shallow interactions are no longer worth it and you look for something more fulfilling. It's neither bad nor beta, but I think it is indicative of your age and experience.

Edit: Looks like I'm late to the party.

[soup]

Actually some higher quality girls have more smarts then the lower ones.

At least they tend to have this openess about them.. Probably because they don't feel as fucked over by the world as the younger ones... Yet.

A girl I'm seeing remarked about how older men go after younger women because they are trying to forget the fact that they are closer to death. I thought that was interesting, and kind of cute.

Think about it like this.. Imagine you have pet cat that one day starts talking to you and saying "smart" things.

That's what it's like when a girl I'm seeing is smart.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-22-2014 06:46 AM)soup Wrote:  

A girl I'm seeing remarked about how older men go after younger women because they are trying to forget the fact that they are closer to death. I thought that was interesting, and kind of cute.

Think about it like this.. Imagine you have pet cat that one day starts talking to you and saying "smart" things.

That's what it's like when a girl I'm seeing is smart.

Yeah - I have heard it too - they also call it middle-age crisis too.

Some of the successful Blue Pill guys have been doing it forever - getting a divorce, buying a sports-car and having a way younger girlfriend.

Yeah - fear of death - my ass. To them basic biology simply does not exist.

[simondice]

(06-22-2014 04:57 AM)InternationalPlayboy Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 10:18 PM)simondice Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 07:32 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

I'd bang the hell out of Marrisa Meyer

I would too, but to say that 'empowered' women are your ideal type is trolling on pro mode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcSujceZDmg

That laugh

Oh lord, sounds like a horse being asphyxiated. I lost my wood.

[Cobra]

Hmm.. Isn't there such a thing as feminine intelligence?

Just sayin..

If I wanted to have a fulfilling life full of intellectual conversations, I would pull in one of my close male friends or even join a group full of other intelligent men. They can offer more of that consistently.

Looking to a woman for that consistently doesn't mean she is going to provide that consistently. Maybe here and there yes. Even still, it undermines the femininity they have to offer.

Making up for the lack of femininity by "empowerment."

[VincentVinturi]

To each their own fellas, to each their own.

I was always drawn to "smart" women in high school and college. The older I get, the "stupider" I like them. Now it's all about pure chemistry. Natural compatibility, if you will.

And let's not forget that intelligence is a multi-dimensional concept. Just because a woman can glibly go tete-a-tete about philosophy, cuisine, history and economics doesn't mean she's intelligent. No more than a guy than a guy who knows every game theory known to man can *actually* pick up women.

These so called 'smart' women aren't usually smart. They're often intellectualizers who live in their heads, talk too much, think they know everything and have no common sense.

I'll take a cute, simple farm girl who knows how to cook, clean, grow food and loves to fuck me over a sophisticated, educated, worldly Hiso girl from a good family who mistakenly thinks I give a shit about any of her 'credentials'.

[runsonmagic]

(06-22-2014 10:49 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

These so called 'smart' women aren't usually smart. They're often intellectualizers who live in their heads, talk too much, think they know everything and have no common sense.

^^This.

I find I'm more attracted to kindness and emotional intelligence than book smarts.

[Comte De St. Germain]

The real "smart" woman sees value in other people and leverages her assets in to gaining that value rather than pretending to be smart and intellectual. The same kind of woman that tries to act smart is equivalent to the male whom constantly talks of getting laid all the time without proof. Odds are they aren't smart/aren't getting laid and are lacking in a fundamental area. Conversely a real "smart" woman is a social monster usually with top tier looks and a following of woman as well as orbiters that tries to pull you in with an attitude and demeanor that I have to say is the sweetest poison(kind, feminine, and understanding to the point it makes you complacent). That is the kind of woman that puts me in an uneasy place not the pseudo intellectual "woman" that colleges churn out whose "empowerment" is supposed to scare me.

[AnonymousBosch]

(06-22-2014 06:46 AM)soup Wrote:  

A girl I'm seeing remarked about how older men go after younger women because they are trying to forget the fact that they are closer to death. I thought that was interesting, and kind of cute.

This wasn't her showing original thought.

This is a classic female shaming tactic beloved of older women, that she's just parroting as truth without applying her own critical thought to.

She's saying the sex-specific biological attractors for men that exist across cultures - youth, beauty, fertility - don't exist.

Any older man attracted to that isn't following his natural genetic programming, but has a neurosis about death.

If he was psychologically-healthy, he'd date women his own age.

Who benefits if he is shamed into ignoring his sexual power to attract a younger mate?

Ever wonder why People constantly picks past-it hags in their 40's as 'the sexiest woman alive'?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-22-2014 10:49 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

To each their own fellas, to each their own.

I was always drawn to "smart" women in high school and college. The older I get, the "stupider" I like them. Now it's all about pure chemistry. Natural compatibility, if you will.

And let's not forget that intelligence is a multi-dimensional concept. Just because a woman can glibly go tete-a-tete about philosophy, cuisine, history and economics doesn't mean she's intelligent. No more than a guy than a guy who knows every game theory known to man can *actually* pick up women.

These so called 'smart' women aren't usually smart. They're often intellectualizers who live in their heads, talk too much, think they know everything and have no common sense.

I'll take a cute, simple farm girl who knows how to cook, clean, grow food and loves to fuck me over a sophisticated, educated, worldly Hiso girl from a good family who mistakenly thinks I give a shit about any of her 'credentials'.

Exactly - I prefer raw intelligence without much education. Sometimes you meet a girl with an IQ over 130 who has not started the indoctrination process that we call university. If she started working as a waitress all the better.

I once dated a beautiful stewardess who had an IQ of over 140 and had a healthy disdain for most higher education. She was one of the most balanced human beings I met.

[jmourinho]

I'm probably too much of a narcissist to think there's a woman that's actually as smart as me out there. That, and I have an IQ over 140.

[reaper23]

(06-20-2014 04:34 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 03:31 PM)agentaika Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 02:59 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

I don't think you're going to find it.

Maybe, maybe not. I'm open to opinions.

Also, higher female intelligence correlates with lower levels of Female Oxytocin, the bonding chemical, so more intelligent girls are more likely to problematic and full of issues - uninterested in children, career-focused, lousy girlfriends, sluttier-sexuality, higher notch count. If they're have a lot of dick, they're incapable of truly bonding with any men, including you.

citation?

[XPQ21]

I'm in my early 30s, and my "type" is the "nerdy" glasses/librarian/goth girl sort of gal who has some brains. If she is not severely overweight I'll will happily take a 5 or 6 in looks of this type over any supposedly "better looking" conventionally attractive woman in my age range.

The blonde bimbo yoga pants wearing club girl type does absolutely nothing for me and I don't even look twice at them.

This preference really makes my life easier.

[Geekzor]

(04-22-2015 12:13 AM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

I'm in my early 30s, and my "type" is the "nerdy" glasses/librarian/goth girl sort of gal who has some brains. If she is not severely overweight I'll will happily take a 5 or 6 in looks of this type over any supposedly "better looking" conventionally attractive woman in my age range.

The blonde bimbo yoga pants wearing club girl type does absolutely nothing for me and I don't even look twice at them.

This preference really makes my life easier.

[Pride male]

Get an Asian or an Indian girl. The few I have come across (heh) seem smart.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

There are plenty of women who are fairly smart, and some that are very smart. However, having smart conversations with a guy will not make her pussy wet. This is the main problem with trying to have a smart girl for a LTR. If you are using solid game with her, leading, and being cocky/funny, then she will respond by being girly, and hopefully sweet and nurturing. She wants to interact on an emotional level.

You may be able to draw her into rational conversations about interesting ideas, but this will dry up her pussy and dry up her sexual lust for you in general. When I was blue pill, I thought being able to discuss ideas and even debate them rationally was something a girl should be able to do. Now that I'm red pill, I find my behavior bringing out girly, submissive behavior that I never noticed before.

Frankly, if I have to choose between girly behavior with frequent, enthusiastic sex, vs. intelligent conversation and lame, infrequent sex, I'll go with the hot sex.

[TravelerKai]

(04-22-2015 12:13 AM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

I'm in my early 30s, and my "type" is the "nerdy" glasses/librarian/goth girl sort of gal who has some brains. If she is not severely overweight I'll will happily take a 5 or 6 in looks of this type over any supposedly "better looking" conventionally attractive woman in my age range.

The blonde bimbo yoga pants wearing club girl type does absolutely nothing for me and I don't even look twice at them.

This preference really makes my life easier.

How do you know they cannot make your dick hard? Have you ever touched a hot blonde bimbo in yoga pants before? Are you saying this because they are out of reach for you?

You are no different than the ass man, that chases literally fat women because they have a 40+ inch ass. Attempting to validate your own hamster by rejecting healthier women as incapable of satisfying you. How would you know that? I used to think skinny women could do nothing for me until I tried them. Now I hate myself for falling into the feminist trap that confuses men into thinking dysfunction is attractive.

Wanna truly help your own self esteem? Walk around with a legit hot bitch at the mall for a day, that is at least 5-10 years younger, and see how that makes you feel as a man. That fat goth bitch will never duplicate that feeling.

Step your game up. Never too late to switch gears and you are in the right place at the right time to learn how to ween yourself off dysfunction.

[XPQ21]

(04-22-2015 07:47 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 12:13 AM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

I'm in my early 30s, and my "type" is the "nerdy" glasses/librarian/goth girl sort of gal who has some brains. If she is not severely overweight I'll will happily take a 5 or 6 in looks of this type over any supposedly "better looking" conventionally attractive woman in my age range.

The blonde bimbo yoga pants wearing club girl type does absolutely nothing for me and I don't even look twice at them.

This preference really makes my life easier.

How do you know they cannot make your dick hard? Have you ever touched a hot blonde bimbo in yoga pants before? Are you saying this because they are out of reach for you?

You are no different than the ass man, that chases literally fat women because they have a 40+ inch ass. Attempting to validate your own hamster by rejecting healthier women as incapable of satisfying you. How would you know that? I used to think skinny women could do nothing for me until I tried them. Now I hate myself for falling into the feminist trap that confuses men into thinking dysfunction is attractive.

Wanna truly help your own self esteem? Walk around with a legit hot bitch at the mall for a day, that is at least 5-10 years younger, and see how that makes you feel as a man. That fat goth bitch will never duplicate that feeling.

Step your game up. Never too late to switch gears and you are in the right place at the right time to learn how to ween yourself off dysfunction.

I do agree with the poster above with the lovely handle "RoastBeefCurtains4Me". Talking smart to a smart chick probably won't make her pussy wet - it has been my experience they respond to the same things all other women respond to. But as an older guy who is looking towards the possibility at some point of some kind of semi-LTR, it's nice to be able to be with someone who at least has a clue about something and can engage in a conversation that isn't completely tedious.

I believe I understand where you're coming from. But I never said that the club girl couldn't make my dick hard - I have slept with that type in the past and they certainly did. But they do nothing for me now because I know it is a dead end; no relationship has ever lasted more than a few dates with that type because either they sense I am operating on another level than they are and don't want to continue, or I cut it off because I am bored to tears being around them during any non-sex time. They talk about their mundane lives and their horoscope or their weird religious beliefs and are so clueless about anything I just want to hang myself. One girl I went out with didn't even know what the Vietnam War was. I mean FFS!

I don't think I'd mind at all being with a "legit hot bitch" 5-10 years younger than I who is also well educated, has decent command of the English language, and is world-aware and at least has some kind of interesting or witty things to say. I also appreciate women that are actually able to be funny in that they are able to construct their own jokes/non-sequiturs/puns, or do something other than just be sarcastic/parrot other people's humor (a rare quality.)

I'm not sure that this really exists in the United States, maybe in Europe or South America or somewhere.

Also, who goes to malls anymore?

[Saweeep]

Smart girls do get turned on by guys who are smarter still than them.

But only if said smart guy also ticks the other, traditional, "game boxes".

[XPQ21]

(04-23-2015 11:38 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Smart girls do get turned on by guys who are smarter still than them.

But only if said smart guy also ticks the other, traditional, "game boxes".

I tick some of the traditional game boxes I think. I'm also tall and getting in better shape and have a nice looking face, or so I'm told. But I'll also admit that I have some flaws (like hair loss) that prevent me from being as confident as I could be. Being somewhat intelligent is one tool I have to compensate that is wasted on women who cannot appreciate it.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-24-2015 12:11 AM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

(04-23-2015 11:38 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Smart girls do get turned on by guys who are smarter still than them.

But only if said smart guy also ticks the other, traditional, "game boxes".

I tick some of the traditional game boxes I think. I'm also tall and getting in better shape and have a nice looking face, or so I'm told. But I'll also admit that I have some flaws (like hair loss) that prevent me from being as confident as I could be. Being somewhat intelligent is one tool I have to compensate that is wasted on women who cannot appreciate it.

Go and Krauser-ize your intelligence (Nick Krauser). Another not too tall guy with hair-loss who absolutely weaponized his intelligence. He is not badly looking, but no male stunner either.

He is what guys can theoretically attain using their superior intelligence on women - aside from some occasional story-telling it's basically only becoming a master of Game and fortune. Of course there are others who did it similarly to him.

[Guitarman]

(06-20-2014 02:03 PM)agentaika Wrote:  

Am I turning into a beta or just getting old? Desiring smart women.

NO, you're just turning TROLL!

[TravelerKai]

(04-23-2015 11:23 PM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 07:47 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 12:13 AM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

I'm in my early 30s, and my "type" is the "nerdy" glasses/librarian/goth girl sort of gal who has some brains. If she is not severely overweight I'll will happily take a 5 or 6 in looks of this type over any supposedly "better looking" conventionally attractive woman in my age range.

The blonde bimbo yoga pants wearing club girl type does absolutely nothing for me and I don't even look twice at them.

This preference really makes my life easier.

How do you know they cannot make your dick hard? Have you ever touched a hot blonde bimbo in yoga pants before? Are you saying this because they are out of reach for you?

You are no different than the ass man, that chases literally fat women because they have a 40+ inch ass. Attempting to validate your own hamster by rejecting healthier women as incapable of satisfying you. How would you know that? I used to think skinny women could do nothing for me until I tried them. Now I hate myself for falling into the feminist trap that confuses men into thinking dysfunction is attractive.

Wanna truly help your own self esteem? Walk around with a legit hot bitch at the mall for a day, that is at least 5-10 years younger, and see how that makes you feel as a man. That fat goth bitch will never duplicate that feeling.

Step your game up. Never too late to switch gears and you are in the right place at the right time to learn how to ween yourself off dysfunction.

I do agree with the poster above with the lovely handle "RoastBeefCurtains4Me". Talking smart to a smart chick probably won't make her pussy wet - it has been my experience they respond to the same things all other women respond to. But as an older guy who is looking towards the possibility at some point of some kind of semi-LTR, it's nice to be able to be with someone who at least has a clue about something and can engage in a conversation that isn't completely tedious.

I believe I understand where you're coming from. But I never said that the club girl couldn't make my dick hard - I have slept with that type in the past and they certainly did. But they do nothing for me now because I know it is a dead end; no relationship has ever lasted more than a few dates with that type because either they sense I am operating on another level than they are and don't want to continue, or I cut it off because I am bored to tears being around them during any non-sex time. They talk about their mundane lives and their horoscope or their weird religious beliefs and are so clueless about anything I just want to hang myself. One girl I went out with didn't even know what the Vietnam War was. I mean FFS!

I don't think I'd mind at all being with a "legit hot bitch" 5-10 years younger than I who is also well educated, has decent command of the English language, and is world-aware and at least has some kind of interesting or witty things to say. I also appreciate women that are actually able to be funny in that they are able to construct their own jokes/non-sequiturs/puns, or do something other than just be sarcastic/parrot other people's humor (a rare quality.)

I'm not sure that this really exists in the United States, maybe in Europe or South America or somewhere.

Also, who goes to malls anymore?

You are struggling with the red pill much more than with game. You went from projecting masculine logic into the behavior of women only to turn around and acknowledge their true nature in the same post. The red pill is stuck in your throat right now. You need a glass of milk before you gag and throw up.

You might be an early mid-life crisis case in alot of ways. That is okay though. That is normal and natural. You feel unfulfilled seeking validation and appreciation. Men naturally seek a female partner that can appreciate their efforts, work, ambitions, values, goals, and dedication. A proper woman encourages her man and supports him physically and emotionally. NOTICE I did not say intellectually! That is for your peers. Me, Jariel, WestIndianArchie, Days of Broken Arrows, Roosh, etc. You should be conducting forum with like minded males like your fathers before you did. They did not cross that line, why should you do that? Women tended to the things that were important to them, and men did likewise. What makes you so much better than your forefathers that you do not have to respect that?

You seem to have one foot in the wife circle and the other outside, because you are discouraged about the lack of suitable women around you. I feel you on that. I left the US and dated in China and eventually married my wife there and brought her back to the US with me. My life is bad fucking ass. My wife treats me like a king, keeps our home in order, and is happy to do so. Of course it takes getting used to being with an un-masculine woman, and you can falsely attribute a lack of ambition to her, but that is not true at all. Her ambition is me first, then our family and our well being. That is all that matters to her. A traditional purpose. Something real and legitimate. Not some social experiment that has gone terribly wrong.

You do not truly find those dysfunctional women attractive. Trust me. When you truly find that woman, you will raw dog her, and bust nuts trying to lock her down. How do I know that? Been there done that. All men feel that urge to propagate their lineage with the highest quality female they can find, but will pull back when not certain of the value of the vessels before them.

Since you have enough foresight to see something lacking in all options around you, you are almost there buddy. You could have taken the easy road many others did and lock down a fat and snarky (notice I did not say intelligent) woman and be miserable as time shows you with each passing year, what a terrible mistake you made. Then like every other scrub, you will be living vicariously through your children made from a DNA damaged she beast. You will be hoping they will be better than you and her, but they have 1 decent role model (You) and a shitty one letting her self go in front of them and being selfish everyday. Good luck trying to keep a kid from being fat if the mother is.

Go East young man. Fuck your baldness or whatever the fuck your insecurities are. Put on muscle and cut all the hair off or super low. You will be holding auditions for Mrs. XPQ21 in no time. A real fisherman always packs up and moves to the other side of the lake.

What's wrong with malls? I admit I hated going to them while single unless it was to hunt for hoes, but I don't mind it as much these days. More fun to go with wife and kid for sure. She tries on sexy clothing for me, I buy a gadget or two, get some new shoes or dress shirts, walk around, then go home and relax.