[MikeCF]

I like Chris and won't bad mouth the guy.

Here is what I will say about ALL infield videos.

One way to see if they are is legit is to check out Can We Tape.

If you are recording conversations in two-party consent states (that means both people must consent to having the conversation recorded), then you are admitting to a felony.

http://www.rcfp.org/reporters-recording-...tate-guide

That doesn't mean guys won't commit a felony to entertain.

But I personally wouldn't put illegally obtained evidence on the web that could be easily traced back to me.

If you record a girl (or like Vlad, do pranks) and it goes viral and someone sees that he was recorded, then you can be criminally prosecuted. In many states you can also be sued in a civil action for invasion of privacy.

Again, that doesn't mean any given video is real or fake.

It is something that I weigh heavily, however.

[Matt3B]

Bad game or bad acting?

I don't know. I initially thought the former. I've never watched his stuff before but the first interaction was lame as shit. I thought his opener was weak and instantly putting yourself down as "I'm normally kind of shy" every time doesn't really go far to showing your value.

But listen, the guy is out there trying it (if it's not fake) and posting videos to show how it's done. Fair play to him.

I'd like to stick some infield videos up one day, but it takes a fair bit of effort that I can't be arsed with. So again, fair play to him for getting it all sorted.

[monster]

(06-18-2014 07:34 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

If you are recording conversations in two-party consent states (that means both people must consent to having the conversation recorded), then you are admitting to a felony.

http://www.rcfp.org/reporters-recording-...tate-guide

That doesn't mean guys won't commit a felony to entertain.

He probably rationlizes, "if the federal government can record every text message, phone call & email that I send to someone else without either of our consent, then I can record me hitting on a cute girl."

[Captain Gh]

I'm a big Krauser fan, but I'm still gonna go against his opinion on this one and say that this is real. Mind you this is some VERY basic Daygame that will get you nowhere near pussytown unless you're extremely extremely good looking. In these vids he gets by on his look alone with Good looking shy game. I'm sure he shot those videos according to the guys that his business model are targeting!

The balsy American Daygame market is saturated by guys like Justin Wayne and Paul Janka. The London guys are also heavy from Krauser to Torrero. The videos look fake because he's dumbing down his approaches to a very basic level to accommodate his clientele, which will hurt him in the long run I believe.

These ain't fake because you wouldn't want to fake some videos with such basic game! He already has legit gamer like Krauser not liking his vibe. He better be a good coach to eventually get his average looking guys getting laid. He's faking being bad which is so ironic!

[Dusty]

I think they are real. Why would he fake them?

It's easy to talk some basic game to girls in a park. No need to hire actors for what we saw.

[Switch]

I'm pretty sure that the first girl was developmentally delayed/mentally retarded. I do think GLL is a top tier player but just posted the best interactions of the day. You don't go approach for 6 hours and talk to only 10 girls. Plus he was worried about the cost of just the camera guys I doubt he'd hire actresses too. Who knows ...

[MikeCF]

(06-18-2014 07:59 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I think they are real. Why would he fake them?

It's easy to talk some basic game to girls in a park. No need to hire actors for what we saw.

That is more or less my sentiment.

Plus, Chris is a good looking guy. It's not as if (absent some severe anxiety disorder) he'd have trouble getting a few phone numbers.

He didn't do anything outrageous or bang a chick in the park.

I only skimmed parts, but he didn't even make out with any that I saw.

It was all basically just getting phone numbers.

Why fake that, especially when someone who looks like him wouldn't need to?

[Captain Gh]

I hope that's not the only way of approaching that he's teaching to his clients! By relying on front approaching only, he'll completely kill the streetgame aspect of daygame. I'm getting in on this thread since this use to be my Daygaming model when I started and I compare it to bicycling on 4 wheels while being an adult! You gotta go in hard and direct a la Janka-London daygame style I believe. It will lead to frame control much quicker

He's got a good frame and great body positioning while not asking too many questions, but his mentioning of being shy upfront will simply elicit a newbie to carry on with his shy game frame and might lead to weak supplicating behavior during the approach. He's probably attracting a lot of guys with his shy model, but will he get em laid? I believe that a lot of them won't

[Truth Teller]

I agree with Krauser and all the others who've said this is staged... there's something just unnatural about these interactions.

The part where the girl runs off and puts a feather (?) in her hair really proved it to me.

[MikeCF]

(06-18-2014 08:10 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

I agree with Krauser and all the others who've said this is staged... there's something just unnatural about these interactions.

The part where the girl runs off and puts a feather (?) in her hair really proved it to me.

But why?

Why would someone who looks like Chris stage a video?

Does anyone here think someone who looks like Chris (absent panic attacks or some serious mental health issue) couldn't get a few phone numbers?

What about this video is so far out of the ordinary of our experiences that we can't believe it?

No make outs. No sexual antics. Nothing really exciting....To me it was just a guy getting a few numbers on a nice Sunday afternoon in the park.

[Christian McQueen]

Paging El Mech to do his breakdown of how it's fake.

I don't have the energy to. I wrote about one example from the first girl.

I agree with MikeCF 99% of the time, but this time I have to abstain.

Lastly, here's a brilliant idea: GLL is a member here, he can come on this thread and offer reasons WHY it's not fake and then each and every man can make his own decision.

[game_ethic]

Here are a few of his old videos. They're all very similar to the one that OP posted. Do they still seem staged to you guys?

http://youtu.be/91QYfyNpum8
http://youtu.be/re_LP1Nd4Tw
http://youtu.be/Xmp2zBSKESM

Like Mike mentioned, Chris is a good looking guy so I don't see why he would need to stage his interactions. I think it's pretty legit—I sure as he'll wouldn't pay guys to follow me around all day talking to girls whom I've told to follow a script; it's just not worth the effort, and I'm sure he wouldn't do that.

[el mechanico]

(06-18-2014 08:16 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

Paging El Mech to do his breakdown of how it's fake.

I don't have the energy to. I wrote about one example from the first girl.

I agree with MikeCF 99% of the time, but this time I have to abstain.

Lastly, here's a brilliant idea: GLL is a member here, he can come on this thread and offer reasons WHY it's not fake and then each and every man can make his own decision.

He's just messing around.

I'm going to spread some more honesty though.. If you CAN NOT TELL THIS IS BUNK there will be many people in life lined up to deal with your money.

Serious if I have to dissect the entire thing I will but I'm teaching my kid how to fight right now and making bow tie pasta

[Matt3B]

Wait, is this the same guy who faked gaming that model looking girl in the mall and pulling her in one of the cupboards?

[WestIndianArchie]

Anytime somebody posts their pick ups online
- it's fake
- he's got bad game
- he got the number, but he probably won't get the lay.

And the few videos that don't get those criticisms, the guy is usually
1) white
2) in fairly good shape
3) tall

= handsome, and the critics say he's getting the # because of how he looks.

If you're trying to help guys out, you cannot win by making a video.

No amount of video proof is good enough. None whatsoever.

Here's one I saw a few months back.

http://youtu.be/frvV4z14AUw?t=6m4s

Real?
Fake?
Good game? Bad game?
Tall white guy that's in shape?

I can find dozens of these online.

There's really no point if you are trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

WIA

[Krauser]

I'm disappointed in this video for two reasons: (1) GLL has lots of high quality written content and (2) I'm certain Chris can get laid a lot.

So I used to trust him and like his site. It's all good advice for guys who look good and want to get laid in the US within certain demographics. Respect the hustle, and all that...... but

This video is blatantly fake. If you can't tell the difference between bad acting and reality, watch some TV. Compare a network comedy with Jersey Shore or something. Real ad-libbed conversations has pauses, ums, ahs, repetition, dead points while people think, accidently talking over each other etc. Fake conversations are more decisive and neater.

Even if GLL was "following a script" because his lines were simply well-drilled, the girls should've had no such script. Everything about their body language and vocal style/content is fake. Just one example - first girl stops BEFORE Chris gets in front of her or has done anything to communicate he intends to get onto her 12 o clock. Why is that? Because minutes earlier when they were discussing the set she was told that's what he'd do so she anticipated it. Any daygamer with over 20 sets will tell you girls NEVER stop and let you take her 12 until you've already started swinging onto her line.

That's one of about 60 tells in the first ten minutes. Fake.

I'm going to blog an audio of one of my recent sets to underline what a real conversation sounds like.

[Christian McQueen]

(06-18-2014 09:07 PM)Krauser Wrote:  

I'm disappointed in this video for two reasons: (1) GLL has lots of high quality written content and (2) I'm certain Chris can get laid a lot.

So I used to trust him and like his site. It's all good advice for guys who look good and want to get laid in the US within certain demographics. Respect the hustle, and all that...... but

This video is blatantly fake. If you can't tell the difference between bad acting and reality, watch some TV. Compare a network comedy with Jersey Shore or something. Real ad-libbed conversations has pauses, ums, ahs, repetition, dead points while people think, accidently talking over each other etc. Fake conversations are more decisive and neater.

Even if GLL was "following a script" because his lines were simply well-drilled, the girls should've had no such script. Everything about their body language and vocal style/content is fake. Just one example - first girl stops BEFORE Chris gets in front of her or has done anything to communicate he intends to get onto her 12 o clock. Why is that? Because minutes earlier when they were discussing the set she was told that's what he'd do so she anticipated it. Any daygamer with over 20 sets will tell you girls NEVER stop and let you take her 12 until you've already started swinging onto her line.

That's one of about 60 tells in the first ten minutes. Fake.

I'm going to blog an audio of one of my recent sets to underline what a real conversation sounds like.

Here's Krauser doing just that. You can tell this isn't fake at all.
Btw the chick is sexy as hell. Did you smash Krauser?

[Santoro]

Not to agree or disagree either way...I really don't care.

However, his site does differentiate nervous guy game from most of the other 'game' material they have. This looks like it was made not to impress anyone above beginner level but more to help ease guys into game. The most unnatural thing about it, at first glance, is that the guy is holding back to show how his nervous 'script' (detailed here) will work.

If you were a musician, could you make a song using only one octave?

Yea, probably, but the whole piano would be a damn better palette

I'm interested in hearing the broken down tells, my mind isn't convinced either way

[xxMarco]

"Here's Krauser doing just that. You can tell this isn't fake at all.
Btw the chick is sexy as hell. Did you smash Krauser?"


ok now I can tell the difference. yea GLL video is definitely off/fake.

[Ensam]

Krauser's videos are great. You can learn a lot about body language just by watching that chick go from flipping her hair around to covering her chest, then her neck, then back to flipping her hair.

[Krauser]

(06-18-2014 09:12 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

Btw the chick is sexy as hell. Did you smash Krauser?

'fraid not. This girl dropped off after a few messages. One that didn't come out the other end of the sausage machine

[good looking loser]

I'm only over here commenting on it because I like you guys.

I've been dealing with this for 3 years now.

Last summer I went to Vegas and pulled 4 girls up to my room in 3 days. Each one of them on video (a shitty-quality video, lighter cam/camera fone, pixelated as hell). Youtube search: 'Good Looking Loser Vegas' To my knowledge, it's the only legit footage of taking girls to a hotel room on the whole internet.

People accused me of hiring prostitutes and that the videos were fake.

Same old story.

I've been in/around the PUA community since 2006ish and was told by a certain authority (one of the mega-popular ones) that all the videos on YouTube of guys picking up girls were fake.

He swore to it.

They look staged and there's a million and one reasons where that can be pointed out and assume. That was one of the many reasons I "didn't believe in" shooting them professionally - I simply couldn't believe that it could be done.

After shooting these and seeing the footage 2 weeks later, our footage looked exactly like what I had watched through the years and assumed to be staged.

Especially the ones in the morning before the park got busy.

It's made me rethink all the stuff I've seen, a lot of it may well be real.

I can't not post certain interactions (especially the good ones) because some people will doubt their authenticity or because the camera angle doesn't show the entire walkup and/or me making eye contact and the girl smiling back.

I don't think you guys understand how hard these are to tape (with professional footage)

There's a lot going on that isn't seen.

I have non-verbal with just about all of these girls before I talk to them. Sometimes it's seen, sometimes not. The ones that "are surprisingly nice" to me -- there was probably some non-verbal. (smile, wink, etc.)

The girl who is studying and seemingly ignoring me the entire time, then randomly "flips" and likes me. The entire time she was giggling and smiling - that isn't seen on camera (which is 70-80 yards away, 300mg lens).

The advantage and disadvantage to doing videos is - people make assumptions. People assume that I got solid numbers from 8 different girls over 10 tries. In reality, only 3 of the girls did I ever hear from again. Even #2 gave me a fake number and/or won't answer my texts (I did wait about 5 days to text her though).

As for the legality of publishing video/audio without consent, here is my video on it, it's perfectly legal when it remains in the public domain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiso8FRi7WU

The one face that is blurred is of a 5 or 6 year old girl.

And Jesus Christ- if I hired 10 actresses, you'd think they would do a better job and make me look better.

In the next video I'll show our camera setup. I'll be a football field away from the camera and we'll demo that.

[soup]

Maybe it's fake but I still stand by my breakdown of the vids.

How much would it cost to hire all those actors for a day- rehearse them, get the camera crew etc. ?

The part where the girl crosses her leg away from him on the bench seemed real and some parts were really cringe inducing.. He seemed to be showing real anxiety in the first video.

[Santoro]

(06-18-2014 10:05 PM)soup Wrote:  

The part where the girl crosses her leg away from him on the bench seemed real and some parts were really cringe inducing.. He seemed to be showing real anxiety in the first video.

That's the idea. Of course he looks nervous. On GLL getting nervous/ socially lacking guys into pickup is a gateway to affiliate marketing dick pumps, kratom, and whatever else is on there. He's acting/'picking up' like that to appeal to a segment of his (very large) potential customer base.

Imagine being a beginner and stumbling upon pickup. Watch Steve Jabba in action and you might feel ostracized by his smoothness. Watch this video and you'll relate/ think, "yea, I can do that." It's a great business move.

[Samseau]