Quote: (06-19-2014 12:15 AM)Krauser Wrote:
This video has literally disturbed my sleep as I've tried to reconcile the cognitive dissonance caused by two seemingly mutually exclusive facts:
1) Chris has a reputation for being legit. The risk of tarnishing that for the negligible benefit of a number-farming video is insane.
2) The video is fake as shit in every way imaginable.
It's hurt my head more than a Johnny Berba infield. I think I now understand what's going on. Immediately upon viewing the video I was 100% sure it's fake. Now I'm genuinely on the fence. What are the facts of the video as I see them?
- Chris spouts appallingly bad game. To the extent that every Maybe Girl becomes a No, and most Yes Girls would also become No. Presumably these are the sets that somehow resisted his bad game and remained Maybes.
- The girls show zero emotional engagement, like they are simulacra / alien imposters playing dress-up as humans.
- The conversations are like C3PO talking to R2D2.
- There's not a single natural feminine reaction in the video.
- Girls are incredibly open, compliant and hand out numbers easily.
- Chris is a very good-looking guy and the girls are cute but unremarkable (i.e. clearly below him in looks)
- Ultimately it's just number farming. Nothing more compliant.
So I first thought he'd just got a bunch of girls he was already friends with to stand in to make it easy to shoot a textbook teachable video....
And then I realised the obvious: this is the USA. It's a completely broken country. The women COULD be like this, and COULD respond to this GLGG because the whole male-female dynamic is fucked. It's Jersey Shore without the booze. Those women aren't bad actresses playing a porno script, they really are that lacking in emotional development. Chris isn't really a fraud reading a script, he's just a very good looking guy who knows his mere existence is enough to collect numbers from such women.
I was judging the video by Euro standards. It couldn't possibly be legit in Belgrade/Riga/Prague/Paris. Girls are different, men are different, the whole cultural norms are different. I've literally never seen one interaction like that result in a number here, much less ten in one day. Even my friends who could pull entirely on looks (Jabba, Lee), the girls show some sexual tension and excitement - not emotionless uncanny-valley behaviour.
That sounds like I'm replacing my accusation of "fraud" with a new one of "bad game". I think it's more like I'm replacing it with "I guess that's the game you have to play on those girls in that environment". I'd appreciate any experienced US daygamers chiming in with their thoughts.
For now, that's the best explanation I can come up with. I think I jumped the gun in calling Chris a fraud. I'm on the fence.
Krauser - this is all just low-risk numbers game on camera.
I'm asking girls that already like me for their numbers. Some give me fake numbers, some real - just like it is when the camera is off.
I'm totally polite and flattering - so they will be too and likely give me their numbers, real or fake.
Some of these girls (the ones that are walking, especially) I'm watching and planting myself in the area to approach them. That is the only way to do this when they are moving without driving my camera guy nuts. In that regard, I'm "staging" our encounter. I know the girl is heading to her car and I'm going to catch her before she hops in. (in "real life" I would probably just walk up to her and not creep around)
Maybe you are right about the USA- I don't know since I can't compare it to the EU, etc. Despite my appearance, I'm pretty intelligent (no, really) and purposely dumb myself down when talking to most girls. They are superficial as can be - as am I (for the girls I sleep with, not relationships)
This is not "my game", I think you know that.
This is just meant to give guys a '~rejection-proof' way to talk to girls --- it's not a "get laid" "aggressive" or flashy highlight film. It's non-sexual, boring and predictable... and totally the way beginners should start, in my opinion.
That is the entire point, seriously - there's no point in analyzing the 'game' because there isn't any.
>> one part I disagree with you on is that there's 'no feminine reactions'. A lot of these chicks are playing with their hair and smiling at me. They actually like me. Anyway, I can confirm this since I've seen some of the girls again - you'll just have to take my word on it.
btw- Berba in-field is great - take notes. I just found it yesterday