[Aliblahba]

I have a super duper top secret spot. It's so secret I actually blindfold myself when traveling there so I won't remember where it is.

[lavidaloca]

I've made 2 observations from reading this. 1) the first poster doesn't have a very pleasant demeanor. 2) people are overblowing private information. Look I'm sure if you were to say meet up with G or Mixx or any other forum member and you got along they'd be willing to point you in the right direction. On a forum though where everyones anonymous some things are going to not be mentioned regardless.

[DanDeLaCruz]

Bbl,

Latin American people in general are flaky... There's a big difference between how they handle time commitments as opposed to say Germans or Americans. It's a cultural thing, it's not just a women... you just have to learn to deal with it.

But where are you Poblado Medellin (I assumed you were there even before I read through the first page of the post)? It's bound to get a bit harder to stand out as a foreigner with so many foreigners flooding some of these cities like Rio, Medellin, Buenos Aires etc. It is what it is...

Online dating won't work either because the ratios are fucked up. I mean it's a good place to start, so when you land you have some contacts, but the reality is that the ratio of foreign men to the local Colombian women online is insane. A girl opens up a profile on one of these sites and in one day she will get 100s of messages.

Places like Medellin aren't the hidden gems they were 20-30 years ago, BUT I'd still rather be in Medellin any day than any city in the USA.

So you're having a bad time in Colombia right now... From your nick name bigbootyluvr I'd take a guess that you're black, and if you're in Medellin, I'd suggest you head to Santa Marta or Barranquilla, even Cali. Also, try not to focus too much on the online girls that are getting bombarded with emails. If you do the online stuff make sure you mix in some NON foreign dating sites like facebook or hi5. Try to meet women at events like Carnavales coming up, during the day etc. etc... focus on the ones that don't spend all their time on facebook or online (this will be harder for the younger ones). If you do find women that spend a lot of time online facebook is better than a girl who has a profile on say colombiancupid, for obvious reasons...

Ok. Maybe the ROI in Poblado Medellin isn't all that great these days... You're probably right, but Colombia is huge, why limit yourself to this small 1(2?) square mile of Colombia... Get a wing man and hit some other parts of town. Try la 33... Do you know how to dance? Salsa? Vallenato? That will help also...

In the end, there isn't any place on earth where you won't have to put in some work to get your desired results. I happen to think that the ROI in Colombia is in general better than the USA. But you can also increase your ROI within Colombia if you go the right parts of town, apply the right approach, change cities etc...

[Mystik]

No disrespect to anyone on this forum, if I were interested in finding a "secret spot" then I would go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Colombia ) and do some research. Try to chat up some locals on networking and dating sites and then do some more research and then just go there. We are not living in the 16th century (when the only way to get around was on foot or on a ship) and hunting for hidden treasures.

[Roosh]

Mystik: I use city listings like that as a scouting tool. In big countries, cities #3-10 could be potential gems that don't get much play in guide books.

[Hunterdoingfieldresearch]

(02-07-2011 06:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

If you guys were talking about a village with 2,000 people... okay fine, but these are cities with half a million people or more.

True! You must be a real fanatic pussy chaser to stay for a while in a city with nothing to see or do, besides chillin in a mall of coffeeshop. Or the nightlife. Most tourists will never know about the existence of these cities/ hidden gems and only a few guys at this forum will actually visit a city like barranquilla, pereira, manizales, bucuramanga.

So guys...don't expect a tsunami of guys to these cities because they heard about easy pussy. Most of them will stay in Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena.

[Rocco81]

I personally don't like to share certain info not only because it get's more people there, but because often times guys from a place like this end up on other forums touting these gems as a place they've been before. Matter of fact I have seen 2 guys , one of which I have read here and another with a different screen name, going on Colombian travel forums linking back to Roosh and asking about places they have heard they can pick up women. This is on travel forums with old men and women there. It is a little just corny and I don't want to see those same dudes hanging out any small time places I have been where I am very very happy to not see another gringo for miles. No harm no fowl, I am just sure they wouldn't like my company and I certainly won't like theirs.

I can tell you that as for most of the tourists here, if you don't speak any spanish just stick to Medellin or Cartegena, or any of the other cities with large populations. I can keep no secrets about that, but as Mixx and I are saying the big cities Medellin bieng the most popular have been tapped out. I like Bogota but its not sunny and hot and its more like New York than Miami and I have friends there so I go and just have fun, maybe I meet girls maybe I don' but I party and have a great time..there are a few small places where I can go to see friends and have a great time I will keep those to myself.

[whosyourdaddy]

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/th...ID=1889527
http://www.worldtravelwatch.com/09/06/co...ogota.html

http://www.worldtravelwatch.com/10/06/co...rning.html
http://www.worldtravelwatch.com/10/01/co...uests.html

http://www.vbs.tv/watch/vbs-news/colombi...ath-1-of-2
http://www.vbs.tv/watch/vbs-news/colombi...ath-2-of-2

I was VERY interested in visiting Colombia, but these above posts have me thinking really hard about whether i should go. The scopoalamine (sp) that takes away your free will really has me worried. And local hospitals say that they get a couple cases a week, at least. The good thing i found out is that it doesn't seem to be very prevalent outside of Colombia, although i read about a case or two in Thailand.

I realize that Colombia may have been safe in the past, but this drug just sounds too tempting for thieves to pass up. From what it sounds like, Colombia was pretty safe for awhile, but may be returning to its old ways.

Anyone currently in Colombia wish to comment?

[Ajiaco]

As far as scopamine, it's around, I've heard the stories, but mostly from other Colombians. Knock on wood, never happened to me, then again I don't drink strange drinks that aren't mine either. The two craziest stories involving the drug that I heard, however, involved it being either blown into a guy's face by a girl in a club, and another case with a taxi driver blowing it in the face of a passenger. But I wouldn't say it's even remotely close to a common occurence. If that's the main thing keeping you from checking it out, I would don't worry about it.

[Mystik]

(02-08-2011 11:17 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

In big countries, cities #3-10 could be potential gems that don't get much play in guide books.

Exactly! And I wont go beyond #26 because the population is so small.

[Rocco81]

Scopolomine is there its scary but you will be fine I think its no more prominant than Roofies are here. Just grow a pair and go. Hang out with Colombians and get to know them and the country, avoid gringo scammers and saturated places like parts of Medellin where everything is Gringo priced and you will be fine.

[Tuthmosis]

I've pondered the private-versus-public dilemma before, especially on my now-defunct blog (non-game) that touched on some pretty esoteric shit and attracted lots of haters and weirdos.

My thoughts are that a lot of people (via Google etc.) are treating this forum like a wikipedia for game. That's not only annoying, but also problematic when a certain percentage of the information on here is cutting-edge game or hard-to-find travel information. I don't mind bouncing game or spots off of people and sharing info, but I'm not trying to arm the sausage hordes or lead enough dudes to a spot to make it into sausage fest. Having said that, I see the problems with making things totally secret or members-only. The community grows slower. And, the vast majority of "players" can find game on the Internet within seconds. Doing something about it is that hard part.

I'm pretty new to this board, but not to the game or writing about it. I would love if there were a place, along with the current boards, where I could share SOME of my stuff and bounce things off of the more contributing members. I also wouldn't mind if I had to work my way up to that level if I'm still too junior.

But, my understanding was that Roosh tried this before.

[intense]

Is it possible to find a normal girl that is willing to meet up during the week? So far I have met girls that will only go out on saturday night. Every girl absolutely refuses to do anything during the week. They have work or family to deal with. Even going for a coffee for 15 minutes seems to be too much to ask. Two girls i have already slept with still refuse to do anything during the week and will only go out saturday night. This sucks!

[Dash Global]

intense u in colombia?

[lottery]

Fuck i used to think medellin was a lot better..fuck it,m when i reach colombia im going straight to cali or cartagena..im too much of a negro for those medellin bitches anyway.

[Tommy]

The OP is this kind of Stereotype American. You should just adapt and accept their way of dealing with foreigners and use it as some kind of weapon against them but don't get frustrated. Excuse me but, it's kind of the same here in France... I'm sure you wouldn't get laid here too with that kind of attitude. Girls like to get free drinks, free rides..... That's just how it is man, everywhere, not just Colombia.

[Aliblahba]

Do all Colombian women act this way or is it just prevalent in gringo-torn places like Medellin?

[lottery]

(02-12-2011 11:02 AM)Tommy Wrote:  

The OP is this kind of Stereotype American. You should just adapt and accept their way of dealing with foreigners and use it as some kind of weapon against them but don't get frustrated. Excuse me but, it's kind of the same here in France... I'm sure you wouldn't get laid here too with that kind of attitude. Girls like to get free drinks, free rides..... That's just how it is man, everywhere, not just Colombia.

Tommy you definetely havent travelled that much. Girls from every country are different, have you ever heard the word culture?

[Tommy]

(02-12-2011 12:21 PM)lottery Wrote:  

(02-12-2011 11:02 AM)Tommy Wrote:  

The OP is this kind of Stereotype American. You should just adapt and accept their way of dealing with foreigners and use it as some kind of weapon against them but don't get frustrated. Excuse me but, it's kind of the same here in France... I'm sure you wouldn't get laid here too with that kind of attitude. Girls like to get free drinks, free rides..... That's just how it is man, everywhere, not just Colombia.

Tommy you definetely havent travelled that much. Girls from every country are different, have you ever heard the word culture?

You didn't understand what I wrote or you are just an annoying retard. Ofcourse girls are different in every country but one of the things they got in common is they like to get treated by a man with drinks, dinners, .... That's how it is everywhere. Not just in Colombia.

[lottery]

(02-12-2011 12:32 PM)Tommy Wrote:  

(02-12-2011 12:21 PM)lottery Wrote:  

(02-12-2011 11:02 AM)Tommy Wrote:  

The OP is this kind of Stereotype American. You should just adapt and accept their way of dealing with foreigners and use it as some kind of weapon against them but don't get frustrated. Excuse me but, it's kind of the same here in France... I'm sure you wouldn't get laid here too with that kind of attitude. Girls like to get free drinks, free rides..... That's just how it is man, everywhere, not just Colombia.

Tommy you definetely havent travelled that much. Girls from every country are different, have you ever heard the word culture?

You didn't understand what I wrote or you are just an annoying retard. Ofcourse girls are different in every country but one of the things they got in common is they like to get treated by a man with drinks, dinners, .... That's how it is everywhere. Not just in Colombia.

hahahaa i bet you havent fucked any new chicks in 2011..do you still buying drinks and dinners for chicks? Dont you know that making the first date as a dinner date means that you probably wont fuck? I bet when you meet a chick, you take her to cinema or a restaurant on the second date.

[Tommy]

(02-12-2011 01:05 PM)lottery Wrote:  

(02-12-2011 12:32 PM)Tommy Wrote:  

(02-12-2011 12:21 PM)lottery Wrote:  

(02-12-2011 11:02 AM)Tommy Wrote:  

The OP is this kind of Stereotype American. You should just adapt and accept their way of dealing with foreigners and use it as some kind of weapon against them but don't get frustrated. Excuse me but, it's kind of the same here in France... I'm sure you wouldn't get laid here too with that kind of attitude. Girls like to get free drinks, free rides..... That's just how it is man, everywhere, not just Colombia.

Tommy you definetely havent travelled that much. Girls from every country are different, have you ever heard the word culture?

You didn't understand what I wrote or you are just an annoying retard. Ofcourse girls are different in every country but one of the things they got in common is they like to get treated by a man with drinks, dinners, .... That's how it is everywhere. Not just in Colombia.

hahahaa i bet you havent fucked any new chicks in 2011..do you still buying drinks and dinners for chicks? Dont you know that making the first date as a dinner date means that you probably wont fuck? I bet when you meet a chick, you take her to cinema or a restaurant on the second date.

This was a completely useless post. Please do me a favour and get a life.

[InternationPlayboy]

(02-07-2011 06:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Rocco & Mixx: So you don't mind if other guys withhold their best spots as well? Do you think the forum would be more or less useful if everyone did that? Do you really believe that mentioning a bar or city here will spoil it for you?

If you guys were talking about a village with 2,000 people... okay fine, but these are cities with half a million people or more. Even putting 200 gringos in there right this instant would be nothing but a drop in the bucket. Truth is the average thread gets 1,000 views. How many decide to visit a city in the next 6 months based on a ringing endorsement? Maybe 1 guy, usually none.

I do understand where you guys are coming from, but I don't withhold anything, and because of that this forum and my blog has become a magnet for experienced guys like yourselves. You get what you give, karma, etc.

No shit.. After everything you and I have written about how gorgeous the women in Vitoria are and the great girl to guy ratio is, how many people do you think have actually gone off the forum? I'm guessing none, maybe one or two max. Honestly man, I go to clubs here in Miami and realize the girl to guy ratio is horible, then I think back to Vitoria. Have you ever been to a place that has had that good of a girl to guy ratio so consistantly? I can't think of anywhere that comes close. I remember the first night I showed up at "The office" or whatever it was called, I swear there were 25 girls and 3 men there. Not a day goes by that I don't think about being back in Brazil.

[InternationPlayboy]

And as far as finding good spots to go, I'm gonna say that I think a lot of people are going to the wrong places. I've never been to Colombia, but I feel you should check out some smaller towns or cities. If you are in a place with lots of tourists or even lots of people, chances are you are going to get over looked much more than in smaller towns. In smaller towns/cities a lot of the women have probably never met an American. I know the girl I dated in Brazil had never met an American. Therefor you will be of higher value. People are more interested to know why you are there. If you are in Rio, no one gives a shit that you're american, there are Americans getting smashed at clubs and buying hookers year round there, but in vitoria people are wondering what the hell you are doing there. From my experience in Brazil, small towns seemed to be where it was at if you're looking to hook up with the local women. I've also gotten this from a friend that has visited Colombia. Plus, you get a different perspective of what it's like to live in the country. I would always recomend for someone to hit up Rio, as it's a beautiful and fun city, but I'd also encourage them to hit up Vitoria as well. Now finding the good spots can be a little hard, but get out there and travel. I was pretty lucky because I was basically taken to the good spots I found by friends, but the next time I travel outside of brazil, you better believe I'm gonna be asking around about some good small towns to go to.

[whosyourdaddy]

First of all, my scopolamine post was to the wrong thread!!

Wow- it really sounds like Medellin and maybe even Colombia is getting "played out"?? Judging my BBL's experiences and other people's experiences, colombian chicks are:

1) Big flakes
2) Difficult to meet in bars and now, difficult to meet online-- daygame only??
3) Difficult to get SNL's

Is this really a great destination for the women? i have seen some of the pics online and the girls can be pretty hot.

But how do Costa Rica and Lima Peru compare to Colombia? Aren't the girls in Costa Rica supposed to be pretty hot too? But are they easy and charming?
Or perhaps, i will just need to bunker down and teach myself some Portuguese ( I tried and it was pretty difficult, despite the fact that that i speak very good spanish. Can read the language, but the pronunciation to me sounds totally different).

[InternationPlayboy]

(02-12-2011 10:19 PM)whosyourdaddy Wrote:  

Or perhaps, i will just need to bunker down and teach myself some Portuguese ( I tried and it was pretty difficult, despite the fact that that i speak very good spanish. Can read the language, but the pronunciation to me sounds totally different).

A lot of the pronunciation is very different, but once you learn it it's not too hard. There are some pretty simple rules to learn and once you get those you'll be learning in no time. There's some tricky pronunciation, but it all comes with practice. Girls at work tease me when I try and speak spanish with them because they say I have a portuguese accent. For example when I say Bariloche I put a strong accent on the "o".. BarilOche! Brazilians like to exagerate vowels sometimes depending on the accent.