[vinman]

Thank God for Kareem. I thought I was in the minority for thinking this broad was sleazy. Is the owner an asshole? In my opinion, yes. But I think this chick is worse. At the end of the day you never say anything to a woman that you don't want repeated in public.

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The NBA players, media, and grievance mongers such as Al Sharpton are up in arms over vile L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling’s alleged racist remarks. But NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar today said a pox on both your houses – calling out the hypocrisy behind the whole affair and presenting by far the most rounded – and surprisingly libertarian — view thus far.

Abdul-Jabbar, in an op-ed piece in TIME attacked the collective outrage emanating from America’s media over Sterling’s aremarks to his girlfriend, calling the publication of a private conversation “sleazy” and wondering why earlier, more public manifestations of racism failed to shock those such as Al Sharpton, and the NAACP.

Abdul-Jabbar explains that we’re witnessing a veritable “finger-wagging Olympics . . . all over the latest in a long line of rich white celebrities to come out of the racist closet.”

“Yes, I’m angry, too,” Abdul-Jabbar admits, “but not just about the sins of Donald Sterling. I’ve got a list.”

That list includes Sterling’s girlfriend, V. Stiviano, whose voice is heard on the racially-loaded tape and who likely set the Clippers’ owner up.

“Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out,” he mocked. “She was like a sexy nanny playing ‘pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.’ She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.”

And speaking of the news media? “They caught big game on a slow news day,” Abdul-Jabbar explained, “so they put his head on a pike, dubbed him Lord of the Flies, and danced around him whooping.”

The former NBA all-star, who played for the Milwaukee Bucks and L.A. Lakers from 1969 to 1989, has no sympathy for Sterling. But he is upset that everyone is acting so surprised, noting that the NBA owner has said offensive comments in the past and has been sued over both housing and employment discrimination.

The NAACP “did nothing” after Sterling was forced to pay a staggering $3 million fine for denying housing to Blacks, saying they “smell, and attract vermin,” Abdul-Jabbar noted. They were even going to present Sterling with an NAACP award on May 15th, with the Rev. Al Sharpton on hand. “Suddenly he says he doesn’t want his girlfriend posing with Magic Johnson on Instagram and we bring out the torches and rope. Shouldn’t we have all called for his resignation back then?”

Abdul-Jabbar is correct, but it is worse than that. The NAACP accepted multiple grants from the Donald T. Sterling Charitable Foundation and handed Sterling several “image awards” — despite full knowledge of his prior, massive fine for discrimination against Blacks in his slumlord housing.

Abdul-Jabbar, perhaps channeling his closet libertarianism, also blasted the fact that Sterling’s private conversation — however racist — was suddenly broadcast nationwide.

“Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way?” he asked, comparing the secret tape-recording to Mitt Romney’s embarrassing 47 percent remark, recorded without the then-candidate’s knowledge.

“The making and release of this tape is so sleazy that just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime,” Abdul-Jabbar fumed. “We didn’t steal the cake but we’re all gorging ourselves on it.”

“So, if we’re all going to be outraged,” the former NBA star wrapped up, “let’s be outraged that we weren’t more outraged when his racism was first evident. Let’s be outraged that private conversations between people in an intimate relationship are recorded and publicly played. Let’s be outraged that whoever did the betraying will probably get a book deal, a sitcom, trade recipes with Hoda and Kathie Lee, and soon appear on ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ and ‘Dancing with the Stars.’”

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[Solus]

[TonySandos]

That gif of the rock is incredibly appropriate for this

[ddjembe mutombo]

Kareem hit the nail on the head.

People often forget that the media drives the side of the story that will produce revenue. I used to run cameras at a local news station and the reporters would always make me sick. Every tragedy was "bittersweet" for them because they were "sad" for the victim they didn't know, but the story could always launch their career. If you have any reporter friends on facebook, you will know exactly what I am talking about. When it comes to public analysis, they never read the entire story for context. They just glimpse over the summary and then come up with their b.s. talking points.

[samsamsam]

First, let me say that I hope Sterling loses the Clippers. No room or place for his nonsense. Kareem is spot on.
Having said that - One thing.

Is it just me or is she an idiot. I mean she talks like an idiot - questions and voice and all. If she is an immigrant, well my apologies disregard my comment.

But if she was born here, all I can say is our education system sucks.

Here she is covering her face, look at the head gear. Of course she has a phone in her hands.

[speakeasy]

The law of attraction at work. Those two deserved each other. That's all I have to say

[Basil Ransom]

The whole thing is bizarre - if you really don't like blacks, I figure the last thing you'd do is own an NBA basketball team. Own a country club or something (maybe he couldn't because he's Jewish? Lol). He sounds pretty nutty. Usually I'd say if someone's racist, it won't matter too much if they're just left to their own devices (eg how I feel about Mel Gibson and Jews), but he's got a lot of power to fuck with people he hates, so it's inappropriate for him to remain a team owner.

The media wants to hold up this attention whore as some hero, but she was profiting from him. If he's so evil, shouldn't she be too by extension?

It's also a good lesson - a chick, especially a Latina, can act as if she's all lovey dovey with you and then hoist you by your own petard (kill you with your own weapon).

Not condoning what he did, but from a purely strategic perspective, he'd have been better off giving a much more generic explanation, eg ask her to stop posting personal pictures on Instagram in general.

[vinman]

Unless I'm asked I typically don't say anything when the media runs a racial story. I know they're not doing it for my benefit, or enlightenment. They're doing it to sell air time/ ad time and drive a wedge.

[Quintus Curtius]

Kareem always was a thoughtful, intelligent guy.

[samsamsam]

(04-29-2014 12:35 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

Not condoning what he did, but from a purely strategic perspective, he'd have been better off giving a much more generic explanation, eg ask her to stop posting personal pictures on Instagram in general.

He broke one of the key rules of life. Never argue with an idiot.

His ego (because he is successful at least in terms of money) - had to win the battle.

He should have just let it go.

He got owned by a 5 year old.

Edit: He should never had said that shit in the first place. But at least there is some movement on getting rid of him. Besides the racial stuff (WHICH IS SUPER SERIOUS), for years he ran the Clippers cheaply. Like he didn't care to win.

[Hotwheels]

(04-29-2014 12:07 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

First, let me say that I hope Sterling loses the Clippers.

Why?

[Brosemite]

(04-29-2014 12:52 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 12:07 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

First, let me say that I hope Sterling loses the Clippers.

Why?

At least IMO...he was cheap as balls not wanting to pay his talent while sitting on fat profit margins for decades full well knowing ppl in LA are going to attend basketball games regardless. This is pretty similar to how Don Carter ran the Dallas Mavericks early-mid 90's before selling it off to Ross Perot Jr (who was better) before Mark Cuban eventually took over. Another comparison would be Bill Wirtz of the Blackhawks before he died with his popular son Rocky taking over.

Then there is the issue with him not helping out with medical bills when a coach suffered from cancer (players lead by Marko Jaric helped fork that bill over). There's also him screaming obscenities at Baron Davis in game. List goes on with this guy. Only reason people care now about Sterling is because the Clipps are relevant again. Lot of his baggage in the past was often ignored bc that franchise was worthless & garnered no media attention for ages.

But yeah that chick is a shady attention whore.

[samsamsam]

This just in: Banned for life, 2.5M fine. Silver will urge the board of governors to try and force a sale.

As far as losing the team goes. While it creates some issues with personal property rights and having something taken that a person owns.

But for me it just seems strange to hate the people that have created you wealth. Discriminating solely on color. I tend to have a personal issue with people who are selfish and don't think about the common good. He is damaging the NBA brand now. If the NBA lets him stay I think this would harm the popularity of the sport and it's finances. This creates huge disharmony.

[vinman]

This just in....

[berserk]

Kareem is never afraid to speak his mind on bball or anything else.

I think this is a bad decision though as Mark Cuban pointed out. While I have no sympathy for Sterling at all, I can't help but feel that we're seeing yet another 'thought crime' being carried out. First it was the Mozilla CEO who was fired for anti-gay sympathies, now this. The natural question is: What is next? anti-gay, racist.... anti-feminist? You know it is coming, some high level person will lose his business or job for making 'anti-feminist' thought crimes. Then what is next? We can't say, because there will always be some shit, that can create a social outrage. I do think we are seeing a real trend here.

Personally, I thought the rumors that all Clipper players would be free agents would be a much better, free market solution. Let Sterling see that his actions have consequences when he can't set a team next year, then he would be forced to sell anyway. This way only feeds into the fire that is giving media the right to fire and destroy people.

[DetlefMourning]

Kareem nailed it. Sterling's a racist idiot, but I don't like Gotcha Culture. It pisses me off to see mainstream commentators white knight for this whore. She committed a crime by illegally recording their conversation. I'm not a racist, but I'm guilty of joking around in a raunchy, anything goes, nothing sacred manner with my friends over text. We've said much worse shit than that than Sterling. I wouldn't want some of my text messages seeing the light of day because "We were just joking around" is no match for liberal grievance culture.

[Captain Gh]

I haven't fallowed this case closely, but the trend that's currently going on is not a good one! It's funny how being a member of this forum and being aware of the current social trends can make you see things in a different light. I've read his comment and... it's not the racism that jumped at me, but how stupid he is for being a Billionaire associating himself with a ratchet hoe that I could get by working minimum wage??

This is a perfect example of why game is necessary my friends! And fellow RVF members, this girl is not a bitch, she's a ratchet hoe!! The difference is that she's not a spoiled little princess that thinks the world revolves around her, she a hood bitch, always expecting a negative outcome no matter what the situation is! If the outcomes could be positive, she'll fuck it up on purpose and then blame someone else.

It is the mentality of glorifying the struggle. She has, or I hope now had, a billionaire that she was manipulating, and she fucked it up!! For what?? To be a crusader for Black People!!!?? You dumb ass bitch!! Sorry but this is turning into a rent against that dumb hoe!!


And I bet that she didn't even milk him for a lot of money before exposing the tape!! A normal cunt would have made sure to have at least enough money to retire before doing this, but not her. In a couple of weeks, at least someone like me in her circle will be getting some and not give her shit

Piece done by Ratchet Hoe Specialist

[monster]

(04-29-2014 03:37 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

I haven't fallowed this case closely, but the trend that's currently going on is not a good one! It's funny how being a member of this forum and being aware of the current social trends can make you see things in a different light. I've read his comment and... it's not the

racism that jumped at me, but how stupid he is for being a Billionaire associating himself with a ratchet hoe that I could get by working minimum wage?? This is a perfect example of why game is necessary my friends!

Actually I kind of disagree. An 80 year old old geezer would never be able to get at a 20 something unless he is a billionaire no matter how much game he has. Men have a shelf-life too, but money does not

I do wonder if she thought of the idea of leaking the tape itself or it was implanted in her by some dude she's messing around with, some orbiter dude, or some bitch friends. Most likely the latter, but you never know. Quite a bit of thought went into that little plan.

[Nineteen84]

So whats this guy sterlings rep like? Is he going to take it lying down or are we going to see some of this?:

[bojangles]

The way I see it is, there's a lot of intolerance here.

Liberals are the most intolerant people around who feign tolerance for all minorities, races, gays, and those it's running around.

The guy next door is racist, doesn't like non-white people, do I care? No. As long as his racism does not affect me in shape or form that's fine. I feel he has a right to an opinion, I don't have to respect it but I'm tolerant of it.

The guy next door to a liberal is racist, doesn't like non-white people, calls police, calls his/her local councillor, guy is racist, arrest him blah blah blah - 'everyone has a right to an opinion BUT him, his opinion is wrong' - Intolerance.

The US it seems from all the stories you guys post on here is intolerant. Your right to 'free speech' 'free thought' seems to be 'right to free speech and thought when you are alone'.

[Hotwheels]

slippery slope noun
: a process or series of events that is hard to stop or control once it has begun and that usually leads to worse or more difficult things


Next it will be anti-feminists, just watch.

[monster]

(04-29-2014 03:55 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

The US it seems from all the stories you guys post on here is intolerant. Your right to 'free speech' 'free thought' seems to be 'right to free speech and thought when you are alone'.

Yes, well the issue is the "right to free speech and free thought" has been superseded by rampant consumerist capitalism where everything is only to make a buck. The newspapers latch onto whatever's trending and blow it up to epic proportions while it's still hot, and they pander to the masses. Then the politicians pander to the newspapers and the media, and it's a vicious cycle.

In this particular case the whole thing is about making a buck. The girl is acting like she's taking the moral high road by exposing his ex sugar daddy's racism. But she's doing this "whistleblowing" only to famewhore to land some publicity and celebrity gigs.

[Captain Gh]

(04-29-2014 03:42 PM)monster Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 03:37 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

I haven't fallowed this case closely, but the trend that's currently going on is not a good one! It's funny how being a member of this forum and being aware of the current social trends can make you see things in a different light. I've read his comment and... it's not the racism that jumped at me, but how stupid he is for being a Billionaire associating himself with a ratchet hoe that I could get by working minimum wage??

This is a perfect example of why game is necessary my friends! And fellow RVF members, this girl is not a bitch, she's a ratchet hoe!! The difference is that she's not a spoiled little princess that thinks the world revolves around her, she a hood bitch, always expecting a negative outcome no matter what the situation is! If the outcomes could be positive, she'll fuck it up on purpose and then blame someone else.

It is the mentality of glorifying the struggle. She has, or I hope now had, a billionaire that she was manipulating, and she fucked it up!! For what?? To be a crusader for Black People!!!?? You dumb ass bitch!! Sorry but this is turning into a rent against that dumb hoe!!


And I bet that she didn't even milk him for a lot of money before exposing the tape!! A normal cunt would have made sure to have at least enough money to retire before doing this, but not her. In a couple of weeks, at least someone like me in her circle will be getting some and not give her shit

Piece done by Ratchet Hoe Specialist

Actually I kind of disagree. An 80 year old old geezer would never be able to get at a 20 something unless he is a billionaire no matter how much game he has. Men have a shelf-life too, but money does not

I do wonder if she thought of the idea of leaking the tape itself or it was implanted in her by some dude she's messing around with, some orbiter dude, or some bitch friends. Most likely the latter, but you never know. Quite a bit of thought went into that little plan.

You replied while I was updating my comment! I definitely get your point, but a guy with game would never select a ratchet ass hoe like her to be is main girl and would not be in this predicament. She is not billionaire materiel for sure! With game he could have gotten a good 50-60 year old to treat his like a King instead of that Bugs Bunny looking ass bitch!!

[vinman]

He's an ass. He's a lot of things, and not all of them are good, but he shouldn't be banned for life from his own franchise. Just my two cents.

[Dismal Operator]

The girl wasn't his main girl, he's married and his wife apparently doesn't give a fuck that he brings this chick courtside to the games. It's been going on for years, so maybe he does have some game.

His wife had a lawsuit against the gf, and her releasing these tapes seems like she was retaliating.