[amity]

It's an interesting one.
Being based in Ireland, the pickings are few on the dating websites, aside from some of the foreign girls, but they are so bombarded with messages, they rarely reply.
My own experience here is that POF is absolutely chockful of fatties, complete waste of time.
OKC has some good looking girls, but a helluva lot of entitlement too, and again very difficult to get a date with anything over a 5.5, and even then, she's often on the BPD spectrum or at least has BPD tendencies, bad news.
Match.com here actually isn't that bad. Also, not easy to meet quality women on there, but unlike on OKC, the 6s will reply more often, and the chicks tend to be more mentally healthy, than on OKC. Plenty of 6s and a few 7s too, and a lot of women in their early 30s who are still eminently fuckworthy, although you still have a plethora of 4s and 5s too (usually the native Irish chicks).
Yes, it's true, the majority of the bangable women have ridiculous expectations, but if you can get the meetup in early, and show you're not an average beta schlub, you're straight away in the top 10% of guys she's met online, and the notch is on.

[Flavius Aetius]

@Foolsgo1d,

The height requirements from the hamsters are truly laughable. These women would rather stay single and talk to their cats for the rest of their lives then settle for a man of average height.

It is so odd because before online dating it never occurred to me height was so important. I always thought money, career, looks, etc were the deciding factors.

I thought being 6ft tall would be enough, but that was not true. All the girls who are 5'7-5'10 wear 4 inch heels and want a man taller than them while they wear high heels out.

At least these spinsters can always snuggle up to their boyfriend pillow

[samsamsam]

Damn Flavius, that would be a great business of sending single chicks this pillow. Probably lead to a lot of suicides though.

Sort of like mailing someone dogshit. http://www.poopsenders.com/

[DJ-Matt]

Stolen from Tuthmosis in another thread:


   

[Samseau]

DOBA, the woman in your first post sounds like a picky cunt. Tell her to quit her bitching, lower her standards, read through the messages which aren't one-liners, and go out on some dates.

There's no actual problem here - she has dozens and dozens of suitors. The drama is entirely manufactured for yet another spoiled, consequence free American woman.

[Foolsgo1d]

(04-17-2014 11:48 AM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  

@Foolsgo1d,

The height requirements from the hamsters are truly laughable. These women would rather stay single and talk to their cats for the rest of their lives then settle for a man of average height.

It is so odd because before online dating it never occurred to me height was so important. I always thought money, career, looks, etc were the deciding factors.

I thought being 6ft tall would be enough, but that was not true. All the girls who are 5'7-5'10 wear 4 inch heels and want a man taller than them while they wear high heels out.

ok



For real though, when I am out and about during the day or working I see a lot of guys below my height or above it. However during the night I see so many guys smaller than me its unreal.

I have only figured out why women have standards, its not the list but something they have witnessed and wanted but were unable to get it which is what that 37 year old wanted.

A 6'4" big guy similar build to me but just bigger. I reckon the fact he was a bouncer made her rationalise it even more and woe-betide any man who doesn't match up.

[AneroidOcean]

(04-17-2014 11:48 AM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  

I thought being 6ft tall would be enough, but that was not true. All the girls who are 5'7-5'10 wear 4 inch heels and want a man taller than them while they wear high heels out.

That is SO ridiculous. 5'7" girl not being okay with a guy 6' is STUPID.

It's one thing if the guy is 6' and skinny like a twig and she wants a guy who she feels can "protect" her more, but a 6' guy in reasonable shape/weight? She's just too damn picky.

I feel for a woman 5'10" but if she is unwilling to date a guy close to her height or slightly above it at least (without heels) she's being pretty silly too.

These women can talk to my volleyball playing female friends, some of whom range from 5'10" to 6'5" and are pretty happy with a guy 2-3" taller than them. Yes, you read that right, 6'5"

[Travesty]

There are always height grievances from men that are very valid.

I have a theory girls 5'10+ get huge egos because tons of thirsty dudes are into tall chicks for some reason. I like short girls and don't get it. I think tall girls look mannish and they are often times more built.

I just want to say I am 6'4" in a place where I am almost always the tallest guy.

5'10+ girls routinely act stuck up and picky with me. Short girls are much much much nicer they are humble.

I am just gonna say these same chicks aren't worth it even if you are tall so don't feel like you miss too much.

Plus it's mostly a facade if you have solid game it is just a front, but the types of girls with these height fronts usually have shitty vibes and you shouldn't look at them twice there's always cooler better looking girls. And if there aren't you need to move and get your life on a higher level.

[void]

Tall girls are more insecure than short girls. Most girls prefer a guy taller than them and men shorter girls. Tall girls have a severe reduction in possible mates, neglecting that height correlates with a bunch of other attractive features like income.

[Foolsgo1d]

I usually find tall girls insecurity as a means to poke them with a stick even more. "you're all the same height lying down"

[Hotwheels]

Older broads you need to put a bit more effort into your emails. Get the gash glistening and drop a provider vibe, not the fratbro vibe, and you'll get farther.

[Oaktree]

Taller American girls are almost always more masculine. By taller, I mean say 5'10" or taller.

I've found their attitude to be significantly worse than the average woman.

[DarkTriad]

(04-17-2014 12:52 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 12:31 AM)Bacchus Wrote:  

I'm curious about the specific statistics. How many visitors a day does she get? How many matches on quickmatch? Delicious Tacos has written about this before. My profile gets an unsolicited message (or two) a week, mostly from unattractive girls.

I'm guessing she's still a red dot on the site. The messages she receives may not be well-written, and a majority of them could be crude come-ons like "nice tits," but that doesn't mean that she doesn't have offers for sex. A clever opener and a spam message essentially mean the same thing. They both boil down to 'wanna fuck?'

The terms of the offer might not be acceptable, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't have options. It's just that the options are unacceptable to her because her past has ruined her. She may be expecting more subtlety in the approach or better men, but if she were willing to compromise I'm sure she could find a long-term partner. It's just that she doesn't want any of the men who could possibly fill that role.

And if she wants casual sex, I'm sure there are many attractive men who will rush over to her apartment for a night of no-effort sex. Basically, this woman can hold out a series of hoops for men to jump through and need to lower her standards, possibly significantly, or she can offer herself out with minimal investment required and still pull high-value men. But she cannot do both, as she had done in the past.

Well, she can't get a date which is what she wanted. And I'd think the guys who set up dates and blew her off would at last want to meet her if they wanted sex.

What might also be happening is these guys get easier offers from women in the 4-6 range. And they just go for the easy bang and blow off women who make men take them out, which now I guess constitutes hoop-jumping.

But what does that say about the sexual revolution? That the complete lack of morality of the sluttier women make it tougher for ones that seek relationships since men can get easier access now? If so, that's a good argument for women not to have supported -- and one I think Phyllis Schlafy once made.

I'm sure she's ruling out Omegas and weirdos, but the main point is that the regular guys who took to her when she was working at that information desk at 17 aren't willing to put in the same effort. A commentary on age and technology or both.

"Well, she can't get a date which is what she wanted. "

This is bullshit, and we all know it. Of course she can get a date, she just doesn't like the level she can pull right now. Too bad.

She doesn't like "Nice tits" messages? Too bad, time to stop being priss. Actully, time to stop being a priss was about 7 years ago.

I didn't like when I got shit-tested in ways a lot less respectful than "Nice tits". I turned it around and overcame it and had her eating out the palm of my hand. She doesn't feel like putting the effort in to turn things around and EARN the respect of these "Nice tits" guys. She should be grateful people even like her 37 year old flapjacks enough to comment.

She's 37, guys aren't going to be lining up to throw their jackets over mud puddles for her. She's going to have to take the guys that still actually like her tits, and EARN their respect by demonstrating that she's LTR material.

[DarkTriad]

(04-17-2014 11:48 AM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  

@Foolsgo1d,

The height requirements from the hamsters are truly laughable. These women would rather stay single and talk to their cats for the rest of their lives then settle for a man of average height.

It is so odd because before online dating it never occurred to me height was so important. I always thought money, career, looks, etc were the deciding factors.

I thought being 6ft tall would be enough, but that was not true. All the girls who are 5'7-5'10 wear 4 inch heels and want a man taller than them while they wear high heels out.

At least these spinsters can always snuggle up to their boyfriend pillow

Height is actually not quite as important IRL. Height is just an easily screenable/searchable number for a website where there getting bombarded with messages and looking for excuses to ditcn resume's already. Every system has those that are favored under and and those that are not. If she's in front of you and you're filling up the room, height quickly becomes a backburner issue.

[Vaun]

Marriage Rape - a term Gavin McInnes likes to use. Its very real. Ask pretty much anyone you know who has a kid, if they actually planned for that kid to come along. Almost none are. Its my estimation that marriage rape increases 5000% if your GF is 33+. This was a good article recently about this epidemic, http://takimag.com/article/feminist_fall...z2zFRaoFRC

I have noticed a ton of tall chicks on Tinder. I am 5'10", and anything over 5'7" is what I consider tall. Some of them I have dated and banged, call me crazy, but I dig tall chicks, within reason, a 5'7 or 5'9 chick in heels with a nice body and tight dress is a sight to behold. I feel like its these girls who need to 'lower their standards', or at least consider the fact she could be happy with one her height, even shorter.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(04-20-2014 11:42 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 11:48 AM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  

@Foolsgo1d,

The height requirements from the hamsters are truly laughable. These women would rather stay single and talk to their cats for the rest of their lives then settle for a man of average height.

It is so odd because before online dating it never occurred to me height was so important. I always thought money, career, looks, etc were the deciding factors.

I thought being 6ft tall would be enough, but that was not true. All the girls who are 5'7-5'10 wear 4 inch heels and want a man taller than them while they wear high heels out.

At least these spinsters can always snuggle up to their boyfriend pillow

Height is actually not quite as important IRL. Height is just an easily screenable/searchable number for a website where there getting bombarded with messages and looking for excuses to ditcn resume's already. Every system has those that are favored under and and those that are not. If she's in front of you and you're filling up the room, height quickly becomes a backburner issue.

Online dating presents a big problem for short guys because things change when you have to see/present a hard number.

Example: I bumped into a woman I used to work with back in 2012, after she'd divorced. She asked me out, we swapped numbers, but I never followed up (she has kids).

I saw she's placed a personal on Match a few months later, and her minimum height was 5'11" which I am NOT. So that means what worked in person wouldn't have worked for me if I'd discovered her on a dating site and cold approached her that way. I guess I could lie about my height, but women apparently go apeshit if you do this, even if they themselves are telling lots of lies in their profile (including lies of omission).

Which means if you're under about 5'10" I'd suggest meeting women IRL or online outside of a dating site (FB, for instance). With the woman in question, I was able to build some rapport and as Flavius wrote, height became one facet of what she knew about me, not some judge-and-jury deciding factor.

I bet all this would change if Match and OKC required an actual number for weight and women had to post that. Maybe I (or someone) should write a Return of Kings article asking dating sites to do this because women, you know, tend to lie about their "body type."

[Avon Barksdale]

^Online dating is horrible for short guys like myself, and also being a young dude there I dont't think the online dating scene would be to good for me.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(04-21-2014 12:08 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

^Online dating is horrible for short guys like myself, and also being a young dude there I dont't think the online dating scene would be to good for me.

How young?

I've written on here about my shopping mall game, which I did in my late teens and early twenties. You might want to look that up and try it. Salesgirls and girls working fast food are plentiful when you're 16-26 or so. Appreciate this time now when they're all young and single and you're still young.

I can no longer walk into a women's clothing store and chat up the girls working there while pretending to look for a birthday gift for my imaginary sister. But you can -- and should. Wait till you get a bit older to deal with the bitter old hags online.

[Kizman]

I'm surprised a 37yr old woman would even bother with online dating when there's probably still heaps of suckers/betas out there willing to wife her up.

[Avon Barksdale]

(04-21-2014 05:47 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 12:08 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

^Online dating is horrible for short guys like myself, and also being a young dude there I dont't think the online dating scene would be to good for me.

How young?

I've written on here about my shopping mall game, which I did in my late teens and early twenties. You might want to look that up and try it. Salesgirls and girls working fast food are plentiful when you're 16-26 or so. Appreciate this time now when they're all young and single and you're still young.

I can no longer walk into a women's clothing store and chat up the girls working there while pretending to look for a birthday gift for my imaginary sister. But you can -- and should. Wait till you get a bit older to deal with the bitter old hags online.

early 20s. Day Game is my best bet. I will go through your mall game post to help maximize my effectiveness.

[Thesoloist]

I know these topics have been posted about before but they still intrigue me. I'm fortunate to live in a midsize town, have a few guys who I know do online dating and tons of these dynamics I get to see at play. A lot of these women who I see use online dating you also run into them IRL since my town isn't that big. Most of them are low quality women just plain and simple doesn't matter how hot they are.

(04-16-2014 10:48 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 10:30 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

If you're part of this older set and failing to engage these women, it might be their world-weariness from the process and not you.

No, it's me all right-- I don't want them. They said "Fuck you, Betaboy" when they were optimally fertile, now are desperate to talk to me. For some reason I'm not wildly sympathetic.

Twenty-year old Filipinas are willing to have my babies and do all the housework too, bitches.

They plaintively ask me "Do you have a girlfriend? Be honest!"

(04-16-2014 10:30 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

I'd urge persistence and not take it personally. I'm sure this power dynamic is reversed for guys ages 18-33 or so. And I know my anecdotal evidence does not equal "research," but these women are nice-looking enough that I think there is some truth to be found here.

It was personal, and I took it personally, and I want them to enjoy their cats until they die and their landlords clean out their apartments and throw out their worn out, smelly vibrators

My, I'm quite miffed aren't I? lolzlzlzl.

Thank you for the well-thought-out and written anecdotes from real-life experience when Strong Independent women decide they want the guys they've been ignoring for the last 20 years.

Do I sound bitter? hahahhahahhlzoozllzlzlzllallal
I admit I am, and I need to get over it , because I don't want to treat the loyal Asian woman I want to get like shit because of my history.

As we LIVE IN ASIA and she hopefully HAS MY BABIES THERE....

Got to remember when I have a hissy fit.. "Hatred never ended by hatred.." --Buddha

I co-sign that, but don't fret those chicks are either in their 30's desperate, overweight and a couple bastard children or their still single looking for "The One"

(04-16-2014 11:15 PM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  

DOBA--Your friend seems like the personification of female hypergamy in action. By your own assessment she was a 9 when she was younger and is still attractive at 37--yet despite all this she is still single. Wonder why? Yeah I would guess she has too high expectations and is too picky.

Having been on OKC for almost a year I have found it pretty disappointing both in results and quality. It is simply a numbers game--the more messages you send out the the more hits you get. I have varied my mass messages numerous times even going so far as to comment on something directly from their profile. No change in hit rate. I never say "Nice tits" or some garbage one-liner either. The response rate is usually 1 out of 15-20 messages sent.

After talking to the girls I have meet through OKC (Los Angeles) I have concluded the following:

1)They use it more as a tool for self-validation rather than to actually meet men. They love all of the attention and messages from men even when they ignore/delete the messages.
2)It is a free meal/drink ticket whenever they want. Hamster bored? She can always get a free drink from one of the 10 men who messaged her during the week and maybe a free dinner if she plays her cards right.
3)They may already be in a relationship yet still maintain their profile--point being they don't really take OKC or online dating too seriously. This would explain the high non-response/flake rate.
4)They usually have some kind of anti-social personality disorder which prevents them from meeting eligible men in the real world.
5) They have incredibly high expectations/standards (hypergamy) relative to their status in life.

I appreciate your insightful post, but I have no sympathy for these 30 something women "who can't find a man" online. They are simply not trying.

So much truth!!

The problem is all of the above but especially number 5. You have to really think what type of women would resort to online dating? If a women has a social circle, or is at least a 5. She has plethora of options to choose from IRL. The only type of women who should be doing online dating are single mothers, chicks who moved to another city and widows. The women who are doing online dating rode the cock carousel hard in college. Instead of establishing healthy relationships they were sucking and fucking various dicks in sight. Now in their mid to late twenties I see these chicks in my social circles all the time looking for a husband but being too stubborn to lower their unrealistic expectations until it's to late. Women still want validation from men i.e. marriage. Don't let feminism fool you women crave that validation just like having a child

(04-17-2014 01:42 AM)Noah Wrote:  

My experience after meeting many girls online is that most girls aren't meeting that many guys, and if they are, they are not fucking them. I hear a lot of "you're only the first or second guy I met on here". Of course they could be lying, but I've heard this way too many times for it to be a coincidence. Two specific examples:

One girl (a 7) went on 6 dates in a row the first week she got on OkCupid. She did absolutely nothing with the first 5 guys she met, and then banged me on the 6th night. Afterwards she told me that "you were the only one I wanted to sleep with". When I asked her why, she said, "because you were more aggressive than all the other guys". This leads me to believe that a lot of guys take girls out to dinner and don't bother escalating at all, leading girls to get frustrated with the whole thing and give up.

Another girl (solid 8) told me she used OkCupid for something like two and a half years. During that time, she met 15 guys and only banged two of them. I asked her how many messages she would get and she said about 30 a week. So let's do the math here

Don't be so naive brother

For every chick who use to tell me that I would be rich. The only reason I knew they were lying is because my buddy banged them before or I did. Women lie about everything especially online.

There is a chick in one of my social circles, 22 years old redhead small waist and nice ass probably a 6.5. Everyone thought she was just a picky girl, when we go out she usually just plays it cool and classy etc. Come to find out through an acquaintance (Who is not part of the social circle) he met her off Tinder and she is a HUGE freak who sucks and fucks other guys off Tinder as well (they have a open relationship) and loves to get fucked for hours and be treated like a slut in the sack. They actually were planning a 3-some mind you this is a chick who I've been rolling with for nearly half a year I woulda never known she was a closet-slut. The funny part is when she realized I knew the guy she felt so ashamed

(04-17-2014 02:39 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

No man should give a shit about them when they hit 28 or 29. They didn't give a shit about most men when they were in their prime.

Amen!

I try to only date 25 or younger, women over 25 are jaded online it's even worse I remember a 21 year old once saying

"I'm broken and jaded because of men"

This is a 21 year old saying this via POF. 21 year olds shouldn't be broken and jaded but alas these are times we live in

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Thesoloist: "The problem is all of the above but especially number 5. You have to really think what type of women would resort to online dating?"

The main woman I speak of here is a nurse. She works at a medical center and just never meets any single men. All the people she works with are married.

These women don't seem to forsee that when they get older, all their friends will pair off, as will the people they work with. Unlike guys, they can't go out and "sarge" so if they're not selected by someone. So they sit home or have to go online.

It's pretty much the same with the other women, with one really (unintentionally) funny addition I need to make. The older blonde on Match.com I mentioned keeps posting Facebook statuses about going out to hear bands with her friends and drama ensuing.

I wondered what exactly that could be about, so I did a little asking around. Turns out all her friends are married and the guys in the band have girlfriends. So what happens is weekend after weekend, she starts talking to the guys and as time has gone on their women have started to seethe with jealousy and are trash-talking her or worse.

Married women and the girlfriends of band members are apparently very territorial. Which she might have known.

I agree with what you say about having no interest in such women because they rejected solid, dependable men in their twenties. But in these cases, I know them personally and if anything, I blew them off in my youth. So I hold no grudge, but in the larger sense, you're right.

[amity]

A lot of truth being spoken here.
I encountered a lot of Irish 5s online, barely bangable material (albeit pleasant personalities) but almost every one of them, despite being mid to late 30s, expected tall confident attractive successful men, in their 30s or 40s, preferably with a full head of hair.
I would say they turned down plenty of solid beta providers in their day, and now, 5/10 years older, they want someone at least as good as the guys they turned down! The delusion is staggering.
Although that said, I have heard a lot of stories from female friends in their 30s, of women of their age, who "cannot find a man".
My suspicion is not that they cannot find a man, rather they can no longer find an alpha willing to sack up with an Irish 5.5 at best, who is well past her prime, in her mid 30s, ergo they cannot find a man. It's like non-alpha men don't exist as options. But maybe they will in another five years time!
Sadly I see way too many men here, settling for very plain women, sometimes with a bad attitude, often in poor shape, when the guys themselves are a good 2 or even 3 points better, I just cannot fathom it, I genuinely feel sorry for these poor saps, but they're the ones who "settled".
Let that be a lesson, gentlemen, never settle! You can and should end up with a woman at least on a par with you, on the 1 to 10 scale, if not better.

[lovejoy]

(04-16-2014 10:30 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Spoke to a friend tonight about her experiences on OKC. Good-looking redhead, used to be an 9 in her day, probably a 7-8 now, but looks way younger.

Before I go any further I want to stress she is NOT a train wreck, not overweight, no kids, steady job, and looks a bit like Amy Grant. Still has nice, long red hair. Compared to a lot of women her age, she's doing pretty well looks-wise.

When I met her at 17 she was working in a shopping mall at a consumer kiosk. Guys gave her so much attention I had to compete. Things have changed and I think there's some insight here for us.

Here is what I came away with:

1). She's been on for around five months and gotten no actual dates. Or hook-ups.

2). Remember the OKC experiment where women got all those messages? That's true. But what they failed to tell us was most of those messages were on the level of "Nice tits!" So the quantity doesn't equal quality. AND (this is important) the clutter of these messages can cause decent messages to get lost, esp. when the woman in question is in a state of disgust because of this whole process.

3). More about that OKC experiment: It claimed men get few messages. But it didn't say why. So I asked her why she didn't send some messages herself? "Because I don't want to look too forward (i.e. easy) and make the wrong impression." Neither feminism nor technology will change this facet of human nature. Normal women do not want to be the aggressors.

4). Flaking is not exclusive to women. Two guys set up dates with her. Both flaked. Neither answered her "What's up?" text. She made it a point to tell me one of the guys was a "big guy" (i.e. fat) and even he stood her up.

5). This is in the DC metro area. It's not like it's rural Kentucky and the pickings are slim. There are a lot of men around.

6). Two other women I know who are a bit older had to get off Match.com because they found no one or the people they did find were complete losers (no jobs, trying to scam women). One is a tall blonde and another a brunette. I'd rate them both highly -- then and now. A fourth just gave up. A fifth (who I didn't know until today) was a friend of one and friended me out of the blue on Facebook after trying (and failing) to win my attention with some "jokes." Turns out, she gave up on Match too. Former cheerleader, still looks good. Her kids rule her out for me, but I digress.

What is happening here?

I know everyone's first impression is probably "they're just too picky," but this isn't what I'm getting. I really think the playing field does change after 35 and men have it much easier. The media is not telling the truth anymore and might have been more honest when Newsweek was writing stories about how older women were more likely to be attacked by terrorists that get married (see link for context).

What does this mean for us?

If you want to date online as an older guy, the big step seems to be setting yourself apart from the "Nice tits!" crowd. IMO the way to do this is avoid things that work in person, like the neg or compliment. Because they might be fine on their own, but will come off either nasty or pointless after a woman weeds through 50 "Show your tits!" messages. Context matters and a personalized message to show you're for real seems the best first step.

The other women I mentioned are now talking about moving from Match.com to POF or OKC. I didn't tell them that was like moving from Beverly Hills to downtown Detroit.

I also see all of this as taking a toll on these women. They seem to be in a state of crisis not just because they're dating online but because "I can't believe it's come to this" (i.e. failing even in this last resort).

If you're part of this older set and failing to engage these women, it might be their world-weariness from the process and not you. I'd urge persistence and not take it personally. I'm sure this power dynamic is reversed for guys ages 18-33 or so. And I know my anecdotal evidence does not equal "research," but these women are nice-looking enough that I think there is some truth to be found here.

Sounds like sob stories to me, I'm 6'2, 185lbs, got a full head of hair and been told I'm not hard to look at, but seldom get any response to messages I send, no matter how well put together they are. When I do they are generally the "what's up" half dozen word one's they accuse guys of sending all the time.

[Thesoloist]

(04-22-2014 09:11 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Thesoloist: "The problem is all of the above but especially number 5. You have to really think what type of women would resort to online dating?"

The main woman I speak of here is a nurse. She works at a medical center and just never meets any single men. All the people she works with are married.

These women don't seem to forsee that when they get older, all their friends will pair off, as will the people they work with. Unlike guys, they can't go out and "sarge" so if they're not selected by someone. So they sit home or have to go online.

It's pretty much the same with the other women, with one really (unintentionally) funny addition I need to make. The older blonde on Match.com I mentioned keeps posting Facebook statuses about going out to hear bands with her friends and drama ensuing.

Smart women or High Quality women get into healthy relationships in their 20's and eventually married.

Even now I see this dynamic constantly, it seems every other week a woman is getting married on facebook. To women marriage and children are still the ultimate form of validation it signifies desirability and of course biologically women are wired to be mothers.

Feminism has brainwashed women into believing that chasing after careers and riding the cock carousel is empowering. It isn't until these women are in their 30's/40's single, maybe with a bastard or two child that they realize how much time they wasted