[Chaos]

(04-25-2014 04:41 AM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

"1. If a girl acted the way an American girls acts in maaany other countries, she'd get bitch slapped so fast she wouldn't know what hit her."

^I had a student from Brazil who said this as well. What countries specifically? Living in the US and never having left NA, this sounds like a fantasy land. Can there really be countries where men can be men and not be made to feel bad about it?

Mother Russia.

[VincentVinturi]

(04-25-2014 04:41 AM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

"1. If a girl acted the way an American girls acts in maaany other countries, she'd get bitch slapped so fast she wouldn't know what hit her."

^I had a student from Brazil who said this as well. What countries specifically? Living in the US and never having left NA, this sounds like a fantasy land. Can there really be countries where men can be men and not be made to feel bad about it?

Yeah, Russia, Ukraine, Thailand. The entire Middle East obviously. And hell, America in the not-so distant past.

To be fair, this mostly applies to a man's wife or girlfriend and not to a stranger in a bar. Although it's kind of a moot point as girls in bars don't behave nearly as badly in most parts of the world as they do in NA. Although I hear they can be stone cold in EE.

[mr_lucky]

(04-25-2014 02:11 AM)PocketAA Wrote:  

Main issues in the US listed below:

1- Girls are not put in their place when cock blocking, attention whoring etc.

2- The acceptance of homosexuality. This has lead to an increase in DL lesbians that befriend girls and have a "girls night out".

What about game saturation?

A bunch of people feel like things are worse now than just three or four years ago and those things haven't really increased in the last couple years as much as girls' awareness of the existence of game has...

I would say so-called 'game saturation' has increased noticeably in the US since 2010. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like instances of the disgusted "Is that your PICK-UP LINE?!?" would have been much less common three or four years ago.

[Inspired]

(04-25-2014 04:48 AM)Chaos Wrote:  

(04-25-2014 04:41 AM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

"1. If a girl acted the way an American girls acts in maaany other countries, she'd get bitch slapped so fast she wouldn't know what hit her."

^I had a student from Brazil who said this as well. What countries specifically? Living in the US and never having left NA, this sounds like a fantasy land. Can there really be countries where men can be men and not be made to feel bad about it?

Mother Russia.

Even in Germany, a place frequently criticized here (I also criticize), men are allowed to be men, and this is accepted and natural to the women there.

[Vacancier Permanent]

McQueen,
Any countries outside the Anglsphere is like that. It's just the Anglosphere where the spread of feminism reaches it paroxysm that the male-female relationship is fucked up.

I know you have it very good in the US, balling it with fly girls. But I strongly invite you to travel, see the word and experience foreign girls in their countries. If you think foreign girls in the US or NA are sweet and feminne, then wait till you get to ther countries. It's literally night and days to what's there. Girls are oozing feminity, dress to impress in a sexy yet classy way, not whorish or slutty way. Men are men, women are women. Each gender not only knows its role but most importantly, embraces it with open arms.

Women love to take care of their men, make them feel good. Contrary to the BS crap that feminazi will want us to believe that girls there are submissive, it's more of a genuine caring and tenderness as opposed to submissiveness.

Another major myth that the feminazi controlled medias want us to believe that girls there are weak and submissive. Bigger load of crap has never been written! Anyone who has been abroad and spent more than 2 weeks in any given country outside the Anglosphere will tell you that girls there are the really strong girls. Why? They don't have the gubmint financing their lazy and parasitic lifestyles nor their useless gender and women studies. They have to fend off for themselves from a very early age. In most countries outside the so called first world, there's no such thing as social assistance to take care of these spoilt princesses as the Anglsphere is full of. These girls have to fight, in fact are really fighters in ways that even most MEN in the over spoilt and overly protected Anglosphere wouldn't and couldn't imagine or know.

Take away the hand of Brutus aka gubmint and the hordes of pro feminist laws and the myriads of financial assistance that the mega empowered western women are enjoying and see how long their independence and empowerment will last. Most of these daddy's princesses are simply incapable of fending off for themselves. They would be totally lost and would come crawling and crying like little kittens to men.

This is a fascinating topic that I'd love Roosh or one of the well travelled guys in here to write an ROK article on the myth of the strong, independent and empowered western women versus the weak and submissive foreign girls. These western cunts have no idea how freaking good they have it!!!

Even, and I'd say specially a guy like you McQueen, would be blown away by the quality and quantity of said high quality girls abroad. The travel forum is the biggest collection of very detailed reports from around the world on the Internet. Take your pick based on your interests and types of girls you like best and go there. I can promise you that you will be hooked and its going to be more and more difficult retruning back to the US each time to the point of saying "fuck it, I am not coming back!".

[runsonmagic]

(04-25-2014 08:09 AM)mr_lucky Wrote:  

(04-25-2014 02:11 AM)PocketAA Wrote:  

Main issues in the US listed below:

1- Girls are not put in their place when cock blocking, attention whoring etc.

2- The acceptance of homosexuality. This has lead to an increase in DL lesbians that befriend girls and have a "girls night out".

What about game saturation?

A bunch of people feel like things are worse now than just three or four years ago and those things haven't really increased in the last couple years as much as girls' awareness of the existence of game has...

I would say so-called 'game saturation' has increased noticeably in the US since 2010. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like instances of the disgusted "Is that your PICK-UP LINE?!?" would have been much less common three or four years ago.

On the topic of "is that your pickup line?"

I had a girl ask me if a text I sent her was copypasta and I just replied "yes! I still find that line funny." She lol'd and we kept right on talking. Game may be saturated, and girls may know you're using it, but it still works. Agree and amplify.

[Chaos]

VP took the words out of my mouth. I couldn't have said it better.
McQueen should definitely take a break from fucking around in California and dive into the sea of exotic girls that are lurking behind in every corner outside the Anglosphere.

Imagine the scale of his reaction if he would go abroad. A total eyeopener.

And plenty of new blogmaterial to write about..

[Blunt]

(04-25-2014 01:11 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

On the topic of "is that your pickup line?"

I had a girl ask me if a text I sent her was copypasta and I just replied "yes! I still find that line funny." She lol'd and we kept right on talking. Game may be saturated, and girls may know you're using it, but it still works. Agree and amplify.

That's a great response. Why not? People retell jokes all the time.

[Nascimento]

McQuuen you should go to Rio for a week vacation.

[Roosh]

The DC meetup has been announced for next Wednesday. You can read details here:

http://www.rooshv.com/washington-dc-meetup-2014

[UnW]

(04-25-2014 06:02 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

The DC meetup has been announced for next Wednesday. You can read details here:

http://www.rooshv.com/washington-dc-meetup-2014

Haha, good to see Melbourne at #7 in the rankings.

[Christian McQueen]

Yea guys, I plan on doing some serious travel sooner than later.

I mainly date/fuck girls fresh from other countries anyway and it's great.

When I do, I'll keep a play by play on the blog, because it probably will be eye opening for my overseas virgin self.

[Roosh]

Brought home a self-described "feminist"
She was on her period, wouldn't put out.
I said, "But your mouth isn't bleeding."
She left abruptly, said, "I've been with many guys and what you said was weird"

[VincentVinturi]

Be honest Roosh, you just flew back to D.C. to troll self-avowed feminists.

[TheBMan]

He flew back to author "Dont Bang DC"

[rudebwoy]

@Menace - great post.

[Kingsley Davis]

(04-26-2014 02:45 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

Be honest Roosh, you just flew back to D.C. to troll self-avowed feminists.

It can't be helped residing here, i assure you.

[Tuthmosis]

(04-26-2014 01:55 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Brought home a self-described "feminist"
She was on her period, wouldn't put out.
I said, "But your mouth isn't bleeding."
She left abruptly, said, "I've been with many guys and what you said was weird"

If the U.S. transforms a happy Roosh into this this quickly, imagine what it does to the typical sweetheart coming from Eastern Europe or Brazil. The U.S. is a bitch microwave that fucks up everything you put in it within seconds.

[TonySandos]

"“I’m a non-obese girl, can I come?” Sure, but you must fornicate with at least one male attendee. It is absolutely unacceptable for you to attend if you just want to receive male attention or validation. Unless you are definitely trying to get the pipe that night from the man—or men—you are most attracted to, don’t even bother."

Excellent meet up rule for women

[Roosh]

Quote:

If the U.S. transforms a happy Roosh into this this quickly

I plan to write a post on this. The environment can change your ideals very quickly.

[CaP7]

(04-21-2014 05:48 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  

I think a valid question for our generation is:

Why are men so thirsty current day, when women are sluttier than ever?

It's easier to get laid now then ever before (in theory), but yet 'men' are falling over themselves, backstabbing each other and doing everything in their power to get pussy, when women are literally giving their pussy away.

You've posed this question before I believe. Here is my hypothesis.

Marriage, or even consistent relationships, are no longer the main goal of urban men in their 20's. Hell, a girlfriend isn't even something that guys want, unless she's "really hot". If there is anything on her that's not on point for an 8, a relationship is not pursued. It's not worth the hassle of putting up with an average American woman. Also, men are severely judged by their peers for claiming a girlfriend that is average, or worse, below average.

The rules have changed from "sex within dating" to "sex with strangers".

If men no longer pursue sex within the boundaries of a relationship, then they are constantly pursuing during maximum free time, which is Friday/Saturday night. Competition is high. Thus, standards are lowered. After all, it's just a 'piece of ass'. 'Not going to introduce her to my friends anyways'.

I don't think girls are the only ones that only want top shelf options.

I consistently hear from girls in their mid 20's that guys in their 20's suck. It's not because the guys don't have game, money, cool shit to do. I think it's because guys won't become exclusive after she puts out, unless she's a solid 8.

A lot of what is being described in this thread is a general breakdown of traditional societal structure. You can blame it on women making more money, urbanization, wealth effect, or what have you.

BOTH sides want to 'bat above their average'. Media is constantly reinforcing that this is possible, when in fact it is not. If you are a 7, and you want an 8, as a man, you have to do work. The average man is not willing, or does not know how, to do the work.

The massive amount of thirsty guys is the result of everyone holding out for something better. Or, for someone that is more attractive than what they deserve or can get.

Hell, this is what I do personally. I've seen all my friends from smaller towns wife-up average, or below average, women that I wouldn't even think about being friends with, let alone approach at a bar. They have beautiful children and successful lives. However, I now view them as having a lower value in society because their wives are now fat/ugly,nags. My friends are now giving their wives their 'best years' and if they were single, would be slaying it. Neither of them can remember the last time they received oral sex.

I have experience in small-town America. In smaller high schools, the most attractive people date each other. The average people date each other, and the rejects. People figured out their social hierarchies and stuck to it. If you couldn't hang at the top, you were shot down to the next lower level real fast. The next generation was told that you don't have to adhere to the social hierarchy. Everyone deserves to be special. Everyone is attractive. You can no longer shoot people down to the lower level (bullying).

My translation: Everyone is on the market > You hook up with strangers, or 5's, because it doesn't matter > Relationship only if you hit the lottery > Higher amount of guys bowing down to anything with a vag because they aren't getting consistent ass like they would have if they knew and accepted their social hierarchy.


Sound about right?

[iknowexactly]

(04-24-2014 03:26 AM)Saladin Wrote:  

I don't think its productive to think about this stuff.

Its better to just move. No point in polluting your mind with negativity.

Yeah, guilty here as charged. Negativity is a valid place to start -- "What's that SMELL in here..?" hahah.

Not a valid place to end up.

I'm in contact with preferred Filipinas literally everyday-- ALL at least 35 years younger than me--, have a quit date for my contract in place, and the girls know I'm coming and are very ready to go.

Leave America, resume life. ( With the money you weaseled in USA lozllzlzl)

I'll get alpha pussy with my beta bux. Figuratively speaking, not P4P.

[Mykonos]

I live in DC, smack dab in the middle of this shit show. My advice:


1# Get friends with the gays. Nothing gets you laid with a hot woman quicker-in any social sphere- then being introduced by a mutual gay friend. It's like getting a visitors pass to that mythical "secret club" I've heard somewhere about.

2#
Forget the clubs, and go to charity, social-climber fundraisers. I'm not talking about the ones that are tied to politics, I'm talking about the stupid "fashion for cancer" type charities out in Georgetown and Dupont. The women who go to these are hot upper class types, but they are extremely easy to pull because they are constantly surrounded by betas and gay friends that a tiny wiff of alpha testosterone will launch them off. It's very easy to break into these groups: just show up, meet the person who hosts the event, and incentivise him to introduce you around by pretending your gonna give him 20 bucks for his bogus fundraiser.

3#
If you go to clubs, suit up like a motherfucker and act like you got dragged from the corporate office. This is the tactic I advise if your forced to fend for yourself (shitty wingman, or just on your own): Grab drink, keep your head up high, light a cig and act "like I just don't give a fuck that I'm away from my big ass social group", and wait for some girl to ask for a light, or if you can bum one of theirs. Smokers are cool in DC, and easy.

[Samseau]

(04-20-2014 10:26 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 09:13 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Roosh: What about nightlife venues in general? In Boston they've been dying left and right. Even in Manhattan (lower east side) things aren't as happening as they used to be.

The scene is growing in DC. Lots of crowded spots, but the girls are so into their groups, and also I'm seeing a lot of huge mixed-set groups. There are very few pairs of girls out, and if they are, it tends to be older women well past their prime. All girls seem to have their male friends with them (i.e. orbiters).

Just went out last Sat... saw exactly the same thing. The only people hooking up were guys who came with their girlfriends. Lots of co-workers going out, or huge groups of girls whose only goal is to get drunk and take selfies.

The disease has metastasized. The only use for bars and clubs nowadays is for social circle game, it seems.

I suppose this is to be expected in a decadent, declining birthrate society. Women are perpetually surrounded by men, so they don't need to do anything for attention. They just need to show up. Being seen hooking up in a club is low-value for the vast majority of young girls nowadays. Gone are the carefree sexual revolution era style of hookups.

Women are more concerned with power than love.

When I was out on Saturday, there were tons of meatheads who weren't getting any pussy... and shit nearly got violent against me. I approached some girls who rudely rejected me with duck faces and whatnot, and then they told me to "Get out of here!" As if they owned the dance floor. I laughed in their face. Then some roided out white knight comes up to me and starts to push me very hard. I grabbed his right forearm and pushed it away at an angle to the right, causing him to step back and lose his balance.

He fell back into an even BIGGER meathead, who then turned around and shoved him so hard he went flying into another huge group of girls, which caused more white knights to step up and confront him. He tried to get back at me but the biggest guy in the room was on his ass and he couldn't turn to face me without turning his back on the other dude. On top of that the other white knights started to push other people who were bumping into each other and right before my eyes I witnessed a huge bar brawl start to erupt! The chain-reaction of white knights, thirsty men, and bitchy women was a sight to behold.

Incredibly, no bouncers came to stop the violence... in the end, there were enough men there to step in-between all the potential fights and calm everyone down.

Meanwhile, I was laughing my fucking ass off. Some girl of the original group of girls I was hitting on came up to me and started to push and yell at me, before some other girl started to push her from the back. I just laughed, did a back turn, and flicked my hand off into the air while the chaos raged behind me.

I made off like Mr. Pink:

Anyways, my analysis of last Saturday is that not even the jacked out roid heads are getting laid with enough frequency anymore... so when they are out in the clubs they are just getting piss drunk and angry. They will use the slightest excuse to pick a fight and prove their alphaness in an effort to attract women. It's pathetic. I don't see myself clubbing much this summer. I can't believe how bad things are getting after just a few years.

The dance floor game I originally wrote about is probably dead in Boston. I will confirm after some more nights out but that's my hypothesis for now.

[cowboy]

It's crazy but Option #3 can be very successful for a variety of reasons. As people have already posted most of these girls get dolled up and go out in a group to establishments that have a "seen and be seen" mentality. They expect to get hit on and then shit all over the guy who makes the approach. Then they will talk with their friends about how hot they are and how pathetic the guy is (or how pathetic men are in general). It's the attention whore attitude that american women are popular for.

I have had two different ONS experiences that began when I had a really rough week. I was tired and already pissed off. I was anti-social and just wanted to be left alone and would go to my favorite drinking establishment to order a drink, watch sports, and talk to the bartender (good friend). A group of girls walked into the bar and sat down one or two seats from me. Again I was pissed off and only there to drink. It was hilarious because they expected me to open and after 10-12 minutes they went into shock factor that I didn't even acknowledge they existed. I could tell they were actually getting sensitive about it. Then they were getting pissed. Then they accepted it and opened me and things progressed from there at a fast pace. Granted, this is extremely rare and most american women will just write you off and move on. They will think of you as the "weird guy" that wouldn't approach them. Still it's funny when it actually happens firsthand.