[Giovonny]

(02-07-2014 12:28 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

Fucking a hot and willing 20 year old girl, especially if you are a 38 year old man in this society, is a great privilege.

I wanted to edit my earlier post but I ran out of time...

In terms of "privilege",

I honestly believe that it is the young girl who is privileged to be with me, not the other way around.

I used to feel privileged to be with a young girl but now I feel differently.

I am the prize, not her.

[Menace]

I'm with Gio on this. How many older, successful, together guys are there out there? Who know how to live life and how to push a woman's buttons and make her feel like a woman, for lack of a better term? Not many. But how many young, cute girls out there...whose only necessary attributes are being young, attractive, and generally pleasant (i.e. mostly inherent qualities)? There are actually plenty of them. The key is to market yourself to them so that they know you're a valuable product.

[AneroidOcean]

(02-07-2014 03:56 PM)Menace Wrote:  

I'm with Gio on this. How many older, successful, together guys are there out there? Who know how to live life and how to push a woman's buttons and make her feel like a woman, for lack of a better term? Not many. But how many young, cute girls out there...whose only necessary attributes are being young, attractive, and generally pleasant (i.e. mostly inherent qualities)? There are actually plenty of them. The key is to market yourself to them so that they know you're a valuable product.

Yes, the difference between the males and the females you describe is that the women are generated every day (and there will always be ones generally pleasant, they can't all be bitches) so this makes them fairly unlimited, while the men must MAKE themselves that way and there is a fairly limited quantity of them.

[DaveR]

(02-07-2014 03:31 PM)Akula Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 03:13 PM)DaveR Wrote:  

I agree with you 100%, Gio. I find it much more productive to channel my energy into something serious rather than into random girls. There is nothing beta about going for quality instead of notches... I feel just as satisfied banging a couple of 9s a year as opposed to a few 7s each month.

Ok I hear you there, but assume these are mini-relationships where you get a few 'bites at the apple' and not one-night stands, right?

I'd personally rather have a series of bangs with 5-6 7s over the course of a year than say 2-3 one-night stands with 9s (and that's it, meaning sex only 3x in one year (!!)).

Exactly. I try to find girls who I can get a year's worth of enjoyment out of. It doesn't always work out that way, so a lot of them fall off the carousel after a few weeks or a month.

Don't you find that 7s are 'needy' though? Usually they give me more shit-tests and arguments. Maybe I just notice it more because I'm less willing to compromise with a 7 than a 9.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(02-07-2014 03:48 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 12:28 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

Fucking a hot and willing 20 year old girl, especially if you are a 38 year old man in this society, is a great privilege.

I wanted to edit my earlier post but I ran out of time...

In terms of "privilege",

I honestly believe that it is the young girl who is privileged to be with me, not the other way around.

I used to feel privileged to be with a young girl but now I feel differently.

I am the prize, not her.

Gio, I can see your father's genes speaking through you...

But I don't think you understood what I mean by privilege. It's not a matter of status or who is or isn't "higher value" or anything like that.

Fucking a beautiful young girl is a great privilege because it's one of the most ferocious and world-obliterating pleasures that a man can experience, and that reconciles man to the difficulties of life as it is. And it's a pleasure that is given to very few men, especially men of your age in this society.

As such, it is objectively a privilege. And you should be grateful that you have it, just you should be grateful if a feast table is set before you in a land of hunger.

Just look at the prize pig that has been roasted and lovingly served to you and take the time to appreciate it for what it is and to be grateful for what you have. Don't worry about the psychology or whether it's more of a prize for the pig that you're going to eat it than it is for you to be eating it. Just look at its pinknesses and graynesses and the exact way the roast glistens on the plate, and feel afresh the glory of the feast.

[Giovonny]

(02-07-2014 04:17 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 03:48 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 12:28 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

Fucking a hot and willing 20 year old girl, especially if you are a 38 year old man in this society, is a great privilege.

I wanted to edit my earlier post but I ran out of time...

In terms of "privilege",

I honestly believe that it is the young girl who is privileged to be with me, not the other way around.

I used to feel privileged to be with a young girl but now I feel differently.

I am the prize, not her.

Gio, I can see your father's genes speaking through you...

But I don't think you understood what I mean by privilege.

I see what you mean..

I have to go to work now. I will respond in more detail later.

I am very grateful. I like your post! Thanks for the reminder!

[Nascimento]

It's evident Gio is operating on a higher level.

I really like the perspective that building yourself up to be powerful is a lot more important than building yourself up to get tons of pussy.

And that's something that 'PUAs' will never understand.

[horn]

(02-07-2014 03:48 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 12:28 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

Fucking a hot and willing 20 year old girl, especially if you are a 38 year old man in this society, is a great privilege.

I wanted to edit my earlier post but I ran out of time...

In terms of "privilege",

I honestly believe that it is the young girl who is privileged to be with me, not the other way around.

I used to feel privileged to be with a young girl but now I feel differently.

I am the prize, not her.

This is the truth. Hot college girls are a dime a dozen. Well-dressed, in shape, decent looking, smart, successful guys who are living the good life/doing what they really want are not.

She is privileged to be with me, and she knows it.

[eradicator]

this is turning into a fantastic thread. At first i was skeptical, but I am basically convinced. I need to be more aware that I am the prize, not the babe.

[All or Nothing]

(02-07-2014 03:48 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I honestly believe that it is the young girl who is privileged to be with me, not the other way around.

I used to feel privileged to be with a young girl but now I feel differently.

I am the prize, not her.

I feel the same way.

A lot of women underestimate the amount of happiness and fulfillment a quality man can bring into their lives.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(02-07-2014 04:55 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

It's evident Gio is operating on a higher level.

I really like the perspective that building yourself up to be powerful is a lot more important than building yourself up to get tons of pussy.

And that's something that 'PUAs' will never understand.

Nascimento, it's never one or the other. One can become powerful without ever losing the gratitude for the pleasures such power can bring.

People psychologize pussy so much they forget to enjoy its purely physical aspects, and that's a shame. Never forget to stop and smell the snatch.

[horn]

That's a great point, A/0.

If a girl is happy when she's around you, she will want to make you happy in return. She will keep her hair long, wear heels and makeup, go to the gym every day, stop watching reality tv. If a girl is happiest when she's with you, she will do anything to keep getting those feelings. She sees you as the prize and wants to keep it.

[The Beast1]

Between work, my music, lifting, and church i don't have a lot of time to take girls out on dates. I just want them to come to my place and just hang out. Screw buying dinner, i'll make you what i was planning on cooking anyway.

[AneroidOcean]

(02-07-2014 06:07 PM)frenchie Wrote:  

Between work, my music, lifting, and church i don't have a lot of time to take girls out on dates. I just want them to come to my place and just hang out. Screw buying dinner, i'll make you what i was planning on cooking anyway.

You are still buying dinner, but you're gaining:

1. Privacy - You don't get this at a restaurant even with a booth/private area as a waiter still has to serve you.
2. Bang Logistics - Your bedroom, your couch, your everything is within steps
3. Investment - She comes to you, you can ask her to help you with something and it will be met with enthusiasm and she'll get to witness your mastery of something versus even mentioning her investing at a restaurant (splitting the bill) can turn women off.
4. Value - For the same money you spend at a restaurant for a decent meal with good ambiance and quality cocktails you can prepare multiple healthier and tastier dinners with as many cocktails as you want.
5. Time - Even discounting for the time spent at a store (only assuming worst case that you make a trip to the store for ingredients for just this dinner) and prep/cleaning time you gain time versus travel, parking, waiting to order, waiting for the check, waiting for drink refills, etc...

[Mentavious]

New quote

[Nascimento]

(02-07-2014 05:40 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 04:55 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

It's evident Gio is operating on a higher level.

I really like the perspective that building yourself up to be powerful is a lot more important than building yourself up to get tons of pussy.

And that's something that 'PUAs' will never understand.

Nascimento, it's never one or the other. One can become powerful without ever losing the gratitude for the pleasures such power can bring.

People psychologize pussy so much they forget to enjoy its purely physical aspects, and that's a shame. Never forget to stop and smell the snatch.

I agree, I don't think it's one or the other.

But one has the end goal of measuring your happiness, satisfaction by the amount and quality of girls you bang in life, while the other by improving yourself in all areas and becoming the best man you can be, with pussy as one of the results.

[The Lizard of Oz]

Of course I don't believe that anyone needs to measure their happiness by the amount or quality of pussy they bang. Far from it.

All I'm saying is that guys get so caught up in the psychology of pussy, one way or another -- whether it's because they believe it's infinitely valuable, or the other way around -- that they can forget to relish the thing itself simply for what it is.

They're just thinking about what it all means, and forget the fact that beyond all meaning, there is the actual girl, her ass, boobs, mouth and hair.

You need to take a step back and just appreciate what a great thing that is in and of itself -- if it really is of high quality. And how good it is to have this thing to feast on, how lucky you are to have it. Not lucky for some psychological reason, meaning that the girl chose you -- just lucky in the same way that you're lucky to hear a great song or eat a great meal. You're not grateful to the girl -- you're grateful to God, as it were.

If you never remember that, if you're just focused on abstractions and psychology, whether it's girl worship or self-empowerment or any other species of psychology -- you can sometimes lose the thread and find yourself saying things such as that fucking a beautiful young girl is a "waste of time". And that's when it's time to check yourself and remind yourself to just look at the actual thing and savor it for what it is -- not the be-all-end-all, not the thing that gives life meaning -- just a great and glorious pleasure that you are lucky enough to be alive to experience.

[Christian McQueen]

@The Lizard of Oz:

Great post.

Spend a week in jail with four walls to look at, then say "fucking girls is a waste of time".

Girls are a part of the finer things in life to enjoy on your journey to success. It's like a fine meal or a great trip with friends, it's an experience to have fun with.

[WestIndianArchie]

(02-07-2014 03:30 PM)Akula Wrote:  

Still, I just expect relationships to not work out and try to enjoy the time I have with each woman I'm with.

This is the approach that I increasingly adopt.

WIA

[Giovonny]

(02-07-2014 04:17 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

you should be grateful

I am always grateful. Maybe, I didn't sound grateful in my earlier post but I am actually a very grateful person.

Your posts in this thread are an inspiration and reminder that I should always remain grateful. Thank you!

In terms of "privilege". She is privileged to be with me and I am also privileged to be with her. So, I will say -- We are both privileged to be with each other! We are both privileged. She found an older man that she likes and I found a younger girl that I like.

Also, I really liked what you wrote about enjoying the woman's body for what it is -- The skin, hair, mouth, lips, breasts, ass, etc, etc.

I used to really savor those things in a young woman. Maybe, I have gotten a little spoiled?!?

I really appreciate you reminding me to savor the moment! Savor the beautiful young body in front of me!

You're right.

(02-07-2014 04:55 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

It's evident Gio is operating on a higher level.

Honestly, I just have more practice.

I probably get rejected more than anyone else on the forum.

[Screwston]

I don't know about a waste of time. I think most guys need to fuck a good amount before they realize young, tight pussy will always be around so don't make it the only hobby.

[Mujeriego]

I've fucked around plenty but young tight pussy will be always be the top priority hahahaha.

[Comte De St. Germain]

It's threads like these that make me think I'm in the realm of the philosophers of my time. The idea, motivation, wisdom, and thought are all there . For the 18 year old me I kind of see you guys as the role models in my life and the people I want to be. Gotta tip my hat and say that I'm glad to be here in a place with so many powerful but different ideas and ideologues. It has been a pleasure.

[DVY]

Women are a waste of time...unless YOU HAVE NO WOMEN.

A woman or two is a great use of time, but have 4-5 becomes a drag. Having 10 becomes a waste of time.

Everything in moderation boys!

[swadeshi]

(02-07-2014 11:53 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(02-07-2014 03:30 PM)Akula Wrote:  

Still, I just expect relationships to not work out and try to enjoy the time I have with each woman I'm with.

This is the approach that I increasingly adopt.

WIA

Hehe, it's funny, when I read Acula's post that was also the one sentence that I immediately identified with. After having been through so many women, I've recognised that I have no clue how to create lasting relationships. By now, I simply know it's gonna end soon so I just try to focus on the good and the quality, short as it may be.

And it has struck me how women have the exact opposite mentality about that. When I've made the mistake of telling some of them (in the process of flirting) my simple observation that nothing lasts forever and relationships eventually end all of them reacted in a completely horrified and scandalized way. They always asked how can I have such a negative mentality and how can I try to start a relationship with that mindset. Yet all of them had obviously had relationships and flings that had eventually finished at some point. Even more, they always seem bitter about their past relationships, something I'll never understand. To them having gone out with a man for 6 years was a waste of time if the relationship didnt end up in marriage, and usually they have nothing good to say about their ex either. Basically they are just denying 6 years of their lives ever happened, and even though they have to have had good times with that boyfriend they don't care to remember those. For me what I m counting on to keep me warm in my old age days are the memories of my good times spent with girls even if it were just one-night stands.