Vice Links Up With Black Dude In Moscow
07-08-2014, 05:51 PM
Nemencine just brought this to my attention and my initial thoughts are:
1. He was playing with fire.
2. He is incorrectly teaching/spreading stereotypes about Black American men and culture. Pigeonholed holed himself into a corner, etc.
3. He was not lowkey and discreet enough.
4. He forgot or does not know how to adapt or survive outside of America. In the East in particular at that.
The Black guy in the videos has finally gotten what was coming to him. Before I read the last post where Roosh provided a video update about his legal troubles and possible deportation. I hate to say it but a guy like him was asking for it because he did not have enough tact, to understand his situation correctly. Some guys call it peacocking when guys dress flamboyantly, but any kind of attention whoring like that can cost you in the wrong location. I could easily have done what he did in China like he did Russia, but I knew better because that kind of attention is frowned upon in the East from a culture perspective, and would have cost me big in the end. Getting deported, means basically you will not have a chance to ever come back. All those years and time learning their language is GONE and WASTED! Unlike me, he doesn't have a Russian wife/family to protect him that either. I been learning Mandarin since 2005 since my first college level course. If I got banned from China that loss would be heavy for me. Not the end of the world, but still man..that would suck!
Unlike Roosh, he was unrefined and unsophisticated in his approach to appeal to Russians. Roosh I'm sure has made mistakes too, but one thing I noticed about him is that he makes serious adjustments on the fly and has grown VERY shrewd in the way he carries himself nowadays. Nowadays it can be harder to follow what he is doing on a day to day basis, but he is more popular than ever before. THAT is how to make adjustments. He could still catch a case, but his risk is alot less I would say.
Forget what we personally think about Condi Rice, at least she managed to appeal to them without showcasing any kind of wretched American style stuff, except the politics stuff. Being fluent in a language is actually useless without the deep cultural understanding to go along with it. While he seemed to understand their culture , it looked like it was only on a modest street level. Just because he is a well spoken Black American will not mean that he is intelligent enough to understand the cultural and historical realities around him.
That whole when in Rome, do as the Romans do, would be a great application in this case. That might have gotten him the respect that the other Russia located RVF members were lightly touching on when they brought up that he is possibly embellishing his story about his personal protection. Wanna know how powerful "friends" are when you get into trouble in a different country as an American? Do something to break the law first. Like Roosh said, you gotta be completely clean if you are going to show your face like that. Those same "friends" will completely forget who the fuck you are. Especially in an Authoritarian/Communist/Facist/Police-State type of country. My Chinese friends, buddies, etc. don't have enough guanxi (connections) for me to bust my visa and fix it for me. My Chinese wife and inlaws can though. Just saying....
The stuff about the black stereotypes and his hip hop image is something I would like to discuss in that thread with others to see what they think to. In my dating guide I am working on addressing this very same kind of thing. When you got any non-American people saying shit like Whats up my nigga, and all this nigga that, nigga this stuff, he is subconsciously pulling down himself and other black people worldwide. I do not buy that junk about that is just how Russian people call black people. In China they have a word to describe black people, "hei ren" (black people). Hei means black color, ren means person. You mean to tell me that in Russian language, black person is phonetically pronounced nigger? I don't buy it. If Chinese use that word around me, and I personally never had that experience, I would either correct them or leave them alone. When you enable that kind of stuff, you are making things worse. Teaching any kind of American Slang is bad enough to Easterners.
Them knowing that does not help them talk to everyday black people and everyday Americans. Standard English is more than enough for them. We do not need the rest of the world with our bad habits. They know nigger is an insult. They use that to embolden their own self esteem against any and all threats he presents against their tribal values as an outsider. The fact that he lets them makes them feel comfortable doing that around him is a false sense of security because while they "like him", they do not respect him in any way. Would a Russian in America like having a nickname of Lenin, Stalin, or Boris just because we think it is funny? Highly unlikely and if they did, no one would actually respect him for allowing it.
Black men should drop alot of this hiphop stuff when in certain countries. For one, hiphop as a culture is dead anyway (circa 2004 at the latest). Two, it makes you look like a clown and an entertainer. Everyone laughs at the disco guy stuck in the 70's. Someone not to be taken serious at all. Do any UK men with any class or self-respect dress like chavs? Running around in small places in China, locals would ask me if I was a doctor, a scientist, or something like that, because they said I looked like I was a very "highly educated" person. These are people that had never ever seen a black person before. Maybe not even a foreigner ever before. Turning the hip hop stuff into an identity hurt him in ways he may never understand, unless someone broke it down for him. It's one thing to do that to get initial attention in a nightclub for a mere bang. It's another to banner-run with it in the form of a career. He said he wanted to get Russians to break the ice and relax around him. Ok, well after that, show substance. Carrying yourself as a man with dignity is far more important first than you own individual cultural identity. All that coonery of neck turning, ghetto ebonics slang, and other forms of American wretchedness, is subconsciously effeminate and does nothing to represent yourself and the best of your country (black or white).
I understand what he was trying to do, but it was a busted strategy from the get go. I personally enjoy teaching Chinese people I meet who somehow think Obama is the best black man to ever live in America, that guys like Frederick McKinley Jones invented refrigerated trucking or Charles R. Drew invented open heart surgery. They are so amazed and impressed with that far more than my knowledge of American Basketball or anything else "black dominated".
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