Quote: (01-18-2014 04:05 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:
Quote: (01-18-2014 02:45 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:
Quote: (01-17-2014 08:02 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:
On the global stage, Democratic US Presidents are far more respected and embraced than Republican ones. You can go back to the beginning of the last century and make the comparisons. Not even close. FDR, JFK, Clinton, Obama. Those men have all been treated like rockstars overseas.
That is some seriously spaced-out historical revisionism.
JFK's weakness, especially in regard to the Bay of Pigs, prompted the Cuban Missile Crisis and brought the nation to the brink of nuclear war.
Carter's weakness prompted the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan on its march towards a warm water port.
Obama has garnered nothing but contempt from the likes of Putin and all the belligerent leaders of the Middle East nations.
Clinton was probably the most competent of the four, but continually involved the U.S. in military conflicts where we it no vital national interests (Haiti, Somalia, Serbia, etc.) Then he refused a request by our military commanders to provide armored vehicles to the troops in Somalia. Anyone who has watched "Black Hawk Down" knows how that turned out.
Ronald Reagan was more respected by our friends and feared by our enemies than JFK, Carter, Clinton, and Obama combined.
Funny to see you having debates with yourself armchair. Where did I even mention Carter btw? F-D-R.
Not sure why you went on a worthless and irrelevant rant about foreign policy matters when I was talking about the popularity of Dem Presidents overseas. They are far more respected, liked, and well-known than their Republican counterparts by the international public. Not even a matter of debate. Anyone who's spent significant time overseas or is simply informed about US perception in foreign countries understands this. There's even polling done on this. Obama was the overwhelming choice in most countries during both his elections. Bill Clinton gets mobbed wherever he goes when he travels abroad. When I was in Brazil during Obama's first election victory, you would have thought he was running for office down there. JFK was an international celebrity and is still remembered by many.
Have fun debating yourself.
Thank you or making my point, which was that
your point was geo-politically irrelevant -- and, in fact, harmful to the nation.
As demonstrated time-after-time on the world stage, having a president that is liked by foreign powers is a dangerous hindrance. As I noted in my prior post by providing actual examples, those types of presidents always draw aggression from our enemies.
The U.S. needs a president who is not liked, but respected -- and, if necessary, feared.
Anyone who's spent significant time overseas or is simply informed about U.S. perception in foreign countries understands this fact. There are entire regions of the world (Russia, China, Middle East, etc.) where weakness is viewed as an invitation to aggression.
Yes, Obama is liked by the ignorant masses the world over. He is also viewed as a politically naive weakling by most world leaders. In other words, by the people who really count on the world stage.
Any high-level manager knows that he must be respected (not liked) in any optimally performing organization. This is basic human nature.