Quote: (12-22-2013 02:24 PM)Roosh Wrote:
For a second I thought we were making a dent on feminism, but fat acceptance is making great strides in spite of the fact that obesity is detriment to human health. Heterophobia has yet to peak. "Male privilege" is becoming ingrained in America's cultural fiber. "Rape culture" advocates are making in-roads with kangaroo courts in colleges. The list goes on.
It's nice that the red pill is growing, and that more people are voicing our beliefs in comments of mainstream articles, but it's hard not to look at the general trends and realize that we are on the losing side. Things are getting worse, not better
Roosh, this is all exactly right and it's good and important that you're saying this.
For a while there was far too much unwarranted optimism on this forum and in the manosphere generally. The feminist and "progressive" trends in the US (and in western societies generally) are very far from exhausted and are in fact going from strength to strength. Yes, things are getting worse, not better. And this will be the case for some time to come.
However:
Quote: (12-22-2013 02:24 PM)Roosh Wrote:
and I wonder if it's really worth it to save American ideals instead of just helping men outright expatriate. I wonder if it's fruitless to make a stand. I'm far away from what many of you have to personally experience from living and working in America, but from my pleasant European city it's too upsetting to read just about any news coming out of the States. I don't have much hope.
I believe this is misguided in a number of ways:
1. As you enjoy your stay in your pleasant European city of choice, do not assume that its current relative pleasantness is somehow magically guaranteed to last. Most if not all of these European societies can go bad at the drop of a dime, as they've proven time and again.
The traditions of freedom and decency at the core of America are deep and strong, for all of its current problems. In many of these societies that might appear preferable today, a man can go from cruising the boulevard and admiring the sights to having a thug's boot placed on his head in a cold and nasty basement faster than you can spell "Day Bang". And the relative peacefulness of these societies in the decades since World War II is entirely underwritten by American military might.
2. It is unwise to swing from unwarranted optimism to hopelessness and morbid pessimism (and back). This is a long game and patience is called for. While feminism and allied movements are almost guaranteed to make further gains in the US and elsewhere, the pendulum will eventually swing back -- because these movements are built on
lies and a system that is built on lies will eventually come into conflict with reality. And once this conflict occurs, people see through the lies.
That is what happened to Communism which was far, far worse than anything we are likely to see in the US -- it collapsed in Russia and elsewhere because the economic model that it attempted to implement could not work. It is hard to know ahead of time what will turn the tide against feminism or when it will happen, but some day it will. I think the most likely scenario is a major world conflict but that is just more or less informed speculation on my part. The truth is that we know there will be a turning point, but we can't know exactly when or how it will happen.
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Roosh, as you've said yourself in a number of posts, the qualities that have allowed you to achieve what you've achieved in your life and in game were
patience and persistence. You did not become what you are now overnight; you persisted in working on it, seemingly against the odds, one day at a time, one step at a time, one approach at a time. Your whole life, and what you've created with this forum, RoK, and your other initiatives, is a testament to just how powerful the long view is -- how much can be achieved by a man who is willing to be patient and persistent, learn from his and others' mistakes, and never give up.
Nothing has changed. The same qualities that have served you so well in becoming what you are now, are the qualities that will continue to serve you well as a leader and an influential voice --
the influential voice -- of the noble and courageous enterprise known as the "manosphere". Stay patient; keep up the good work; do not encourage either unrealistic optimism or morbid hopelessness; do not indulge in the triviality of mere "moods", good or bad; and keep figuring out the details of how to keep the servers humming and the page views growing. I know that you have what it takes and I, for one, look forward to the years and decades ahead.