[Vacancier Permanent]

Awesome reports from the field Calwinston! Enjoyed fully reading them!
Damn, 400/month gets you a luxury apart in Lviv???? Sounds incredible!!! Would you say that about 2k/month would be more than enough to have a great lifestyle there?

This coming summer my plan is to go to Brasil for the World Cup but in light of the insanely expensive prices there I'm seeing and getting, Ukraine seems like a wonderful alternative at a fraction of the cost of Brasil....

Kamari, love reading your incredible insight on EE girls! Keep'em coming brother!

[Greek kamaki]

My first visit to Lvov was back in 2005 accidentally as I just took the taxi from Uzghorod to test the waters.The results were amazing.Despite the heavy rain I got four girlfriends in a week two of them statosteque friends and one instafuck from a girl I met in bus station.It was so unbelievable at that time.Especially the ladies night at Millennium club(now fashion club) where it was impossible to remain unfucked(the ratio of girls to guys was about 20:1 with only girls on the dance floor).
Things changed a little in the next years but Lvov still remains a city with great potential especially if you lack the necessary funds to thrive in Kiev.I remember in 2008 when after a fruitkrss 3 day adventure in Dnipropetrovsk(with all the models around though) got a girlfriend just 1 hour after I set foot in Lvov(plans did not happen as expected and I decided to completely turn destination).However in these places you do not really have the luxury of dating 3 or 4 girs the one after the other as you easily can do in Kiev.It does not also have the decent clubbing options of Kiev.

[calwinston]

(12-29-2013 11:30 AM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Awesome data here Cal. +1 from me.

I thought Kiev was tops, but now you've got me thinking about Lviv for my next visit.

You mentioned Lviv girls are curvier than in Kiev. I found Kiev girls to be the curviest white girls I've ever seen (waist to hip ratio). More so than Wroclaw, which I found almost too skinny. Is it really even better?

How is English language ability in Lviv compared to Kiev? Is there a big school of linguistics located there?

I still find Kiev better in the overall quality department. Again it goes back to what you are looking for in a girl. If you are looking for the model type girlfriend, then Kiev and east is your best bet. If you looking for a girl that has most of the qualities we expect in wife material (cooks, takes care of you, loyal, and is around a 7-8 in the looks) , then Lviv is your best bet.

Lviv does have the curivier of the two in my opinion. Kiev has a sample of everyone from every part of the country.

The English speaking you will find with the under 25 crowd. You also have many international students in the city studying.

[calwinston]

(12-29-2013 03:47 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Awesome reports from the field Calwinston! Enjoyed fully reading them!
Damn, 400/month gets you a luxury apart in Lviv???? Sounds incredible!!! Would you say that about 2k/month would be more than enough to have a great lifestyle there?

This coming summer my plan is to go to Brasil for the World Cup but in light of the insanely expensive prices there I'm seeing and getting, Ukraine seems like a wonderful alternative at a fraction of the cost of Brasil....

Kamari, love reading your incredible insight on EE girls! Keep'em coming brother!

In western Ukraine you can live very well on $2000 a month. You are in the top 5 percent in income in Lviv easily. If you go past Kiev farther east it gets trickier with the mafia controlling some cities prices can be ridiculously high or low depending on what city you are in and who you are negotiating with at the moment. In the off season you can rent a luxury apartment for $400 a month in Lviv. During the summer months it ranges from 600 and up for luxury apartments in Lviv.

Lviv 400 and up low season
600 and up peak season
Kiev 800 and up low season
1200 and up peak season
Odessa 550 and up low season
1000 and up peak season
Dnipropetovsk 550 and up

Price per month for one bedroom apartments with all the amenities plus sometimes extras. (ie jacuzzi)

In traveling Ukraine, I find Lviv as the most livable city and with quality women. If you are looking for head turners then Kiev, Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk, and Nikolaev. These cities are more expensive with Kiev at the top.

[calwinston]

(12-29-2013 04:47 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I remember in 2008 when after a fruitkrss 3 day adventure in Dnipropetrovsk(with all the models around though) got a girlfriend just 1 hour after I set foot in Lvov(plans did not happen as expected and I decided to completely turn destination).

Haha Its funny that you mention that because I dated a model in Dnipropetrovsk. Its one of those untapped territories.

[Teedub]

What's the language situation in Lviv? By that I mean vis-a-vis Russian/Ukrainian. Which is more prominently spoken? I know Polish is spoken a bit in the West of Ukraine also.

[Greek kamaki]

They speak Ukrainian in family and shops.In fact they always speak Ukrainian.However if a foreigner speaks Russian they are not concerned and answer in Russian and Ukrainian.If another Ukrainian from eastern Ukraine speaks Russian however they may have a problem.
Western Ukrainians have a fear and respect for Poles and a hatred for Russians.It is a peculiar mix.They also regard the participation in Austrohungarian Empire as the most glamorous period in their history although Galicja was tge poorest region in Europe back then as it is now.(Bosnia,Kosovo,Moldova came close).
A lot of interslavic mixes(lithuanian,polish,Belarusian,Ukrainian,Russian) have taken place in this region as a result of interslavic megafucks with amazing results(girls with excellent face like Russian,slender like Ukrainian,big boobs like polish,very good skin like Lithuanian etc).Galicia is the place for Balkan riders to do their thing.

[Greek kamaki]

Ukrainian guys game.

[samsamsam]

Hey guys, the girl in the video above - what would you say about her looks - common? Is she a 6 or 7 from what you have seen in Ukraine?

[jimukr104]

shes 5 or 6..shes pretty avg. But without the fake stuff and makeup she might be shocked.

[Brosemite]

Was it a part of Ukrainian guy game to pick the accompanying soundtrack too?

[jimukr104]

That guy in the video looks like the guy who kidnaps and beats up Turkish sex tourists. I guess he figured if he can't beat them,join them lol.

[Pacesetter20]

(01-04-2014 03:17 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

That guy in the video looks like the guy who kidnaps and beats up Turkish sex tourists. I guess he figured if he can't beat them,join them lol.

That was my thought too, if so it would be the same dude that was on the show with Roosh.

[jimukr104]

(01-04-2014 03:22 PM)Pacesetter20 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:17 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

That guy in the video looks like the guy who kidnaps and beats up Turkish sex tourists. I guess he figured if he can't beat them,join them lol.

That was my thought too, if so it would be the same dude that was on the show with Roosh.

Maybe its his operation to bond with PUA guys so he can kidnap them as well
Advice keep away from him lol.

Whats more interesting is his Ukrainian game is about flashing the cars,money,etc. Makes him kind of a hypocrite if you ask me. He's basically admitting that his "women" care only for money/consumer goods.

[TripleG]

(01-04-2014 02:13 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Hey guys, the girl in the video above - what would you say about her looks - common? Is she a 6 or 7 from what you have seen in Ukraine?

Based on my visits to UA I'd give her a solid 6. She seems much taller than a typical UA chick, I'm guessing around 5-11" and a bit more curvy (those are some muscular legs)...not in a bad way.

[Greek kamaki]

Ukrainian guys charm works in Yalta after 2:00.

Polish guy enjoying similar slavic moments.You get a comparison between polish and Ukrainian girls between the two videos.

Ukrainian women and the type of man they usually prefer.

[Ubietza]

Is that you, Greek Kamaki?

[Greek kamaki]

(01-05-2014 09:06 AM)Ubietza Wrote:  

Is that you, Greek Kamaki?

No.

[samsamsam]

(01-05-2014 07:03 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Ukrainian guys charm works in Yalta after 2:00.

Fuck it I am growing a beard like this guys and making a music video.

In all seriousness, is that beard glued on?

[jimukr104]

(01-05-2014 07:03 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Ukrainian guys charm works in Yalta after 2:00.

Polish guy enjoying similar slavic moments.You get a comparison between polish and Ukrainian girls between the two videos.

Ukrainian women and the type of man they usually prefer.

What type is he? you got his face and man boobs blackened out.But yes the track suit jacket is a MUST.

[Teedub]

Sorry to derail the thread. Just been thinking, if you're living in a country that uses the Cyrillic alphabet (like Ukraine), if you need someone from home to post you something (or Amazon for that matter), is it OK to use the 'English' alphabet?

[jimukr104]

^^^you can use the phonetic spelling. You can find that out in country..problem is mail i unreliable in Ukraine. If you order from amazon you better use a freight forward service like meest. The other problem is customs and excise tax if over 300 euro's. It ends up much simpler to just buy incountry unless its a very light package.
p.s-most mailboxs are broken. you probably need to rent a po box at the post office(very cheap)

A friend of my wife went on a shopping spree and sent package to ukraine by meest. Since it was over 500 euro worth she basically got killed in taxes.It ended up NOT being a savings.

[Greek kamaki]

USSR officials still get a lot of attention in Ukraine.

Many Ukrainian women dream of becoming the girlfriends of a Russian oligarch.

Another sure way to get them is to invite them to an exotic place like Greece or Crimea.

[Teedub]

(01-05-2014 02:30 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

^^^you can use the phonetic spelling. You can find that out in country..problem is mail i unreliable in Ukraine. If you order from amazon you better use a freight forward service like meest. The other problem is customs and excise tax if over 300 euro's. It ends up much simpler to just buy incountry unless its a very light package.
p.s-most mailboxs are broken. you probably need to rent a po box at the post office(very cheap)

A friend of my wife went on a shopping spree and sent package to ukraine by meest. Since it was over 500 euro worth she basically got killed in taxes.It ended up NOT being a savings.

Just had a flick through Bang Ukraine, Roosh recommends a Cyrillic - Latin alphabet converter for texting. I guess this can be applied for addresses also. Just put the Cyrillic letters in on one side and the 'English' symbols come out on the other. I think all Ukrainians and Russians can understand this.

http://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/russia...ersion.htm

[Davidovich]

Am fascinated by your reports on Kiev and Lviv. Thank you!
You helped me recall why I did not much like Kiev or Odessa, and I took them off my list. Added Lviv at the top.
Looking forward to your reviews on Kherson and Nikolaev. They are completely unreported here, so far as I know.
<Respect>

Davidovich (Philippines for now)