Quote: (07-06-2014 07:28 PM)Ethan Amarante Wrote:
Quote: (07-06-2014 06:30 PM)pants Wrote:
Yes, the study highlights this issue.
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Roma children grow up in culturally disadvantaged conditions, often live in overcrowded homes, and are not as exposed to the intellectual stimulation and test taking attitudes typically associated with high test scores. There is also much evidence that a sub-optimal level of nutrition has an adverse effect on general intelligence. Another possibility too is that the higher scoring Roma have moved elsewhere in Europe — many of the individuals in the Mirijevo community reported having relatives in Germany.
So wouldn't it be a good idea to change the circumstances which led to such deprivation?
For two years I was volunteering in a non profit organization which worked with them two years. My experiences and what I learnt from them:
- They received free transport to school, free food at school, special activities designed to make them feel comfortable in schools like flamenco workshops and sometimes it was a condition to receive wellfare money from the government... and yet there were kids who would refuse to go to school and parents who didn't give a damn.
- Kids are very free and independent, there is no kind of discipline among the families so parents just let them grow feral. There are very basic codes of honour to be respected by gypsies: respect to their elderly (the only authority they accept) and the family; loyalty to their clan and things like girls should be virgins when they get married to keep the honour of the family (there is even a ceremony in which other women of the family break the hymen with a scarf and the blood is a sign of respect for the girl and her family).
- These kids, as any other kids, don't want to study or do any kind of homework. Also parents don't encourage an atmosphere of respect to the teachers and when teachers tell off kids for their bad behaviour it's common that they go to school and fight the teachers.
- They very red pill, and I respect that, they are aware since they're kids that nobody makes money working hard and they preffer to find other business, highly profitable and less demanding in time and personal effort. Many average taxpayer don't realise how things work till they're in their 50ies. Families forage in all sources available (doesn't matter if they're lega or not according to the non-gypsy laws): living on social welfare, petty theft, begging, drug dealing, music, flea markets... They have even been outsourcing, for example they hire blacks or arabs to sell their product so their hands are clean in case the cops catch them.
- They've priviledged relations with authorities. Their leaders will be received by any major or deputy without request. There is a tacit non agression agreement between the establishment and the gypsies. They receive free housing without any kind of liability while most people have to work their assess off to pay 30 year-long mortages and some of them get jobs as consultants. In return, in elections time, the gypsy vote goes straight to one party (in the area where I worked it was the socialist party, but in others it's conservative or whichever party pays better).
- They don't get involved in politics or support certain candidates and in return they receive millions of Euros from European, neational and regional social funds and they have special envoys in the European institutions. Gypsies always prey on the weak: working and middle class people, small and medium sized companies... for example during the real estate boom in Spain it was a non written rule that you had to hire gypsy security to protect the building from being looted by other gypsies.
- You'll never heard of (local) gypsies targeting the areas where the 1% live. And there have been well documented cases in which gypsy clans have colaborated with banks, politicians and speculators in a scheme that consisted in taking homeless junkies, dress them up, create a fake professional history, get a mortgage with the colaboration of the bank staff for an overpriced house or apartment they distribute the money and let it fall, subprime anybody?
All the wishful thinking of the world won't change the fact that you can't help who doesn't want to be helped and that you cannot force a free people who don't accept the rules to play by the book.