[WanderingSoul]

(11-18-2013 01:07 AM)Emancipator Wrote:  

Modafinil is an absolute pain in the ass to get in Canada non prescription.

Two orders so far seized by customs and a letter from Health Canada

I know people who order seeds from Amsterdam and the company wraps them in a shirt to hide them. Never heard of a package getting opened.

[Emancipator]

(11-18-2013 08:15 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 01:07 AM)Emancipator Wrote:  

Modafinil is an absolute pain in the ass to get in Canada non prescription.

Two orders so far seized by customs and a letter from Health Canada

I know people who order seeds from Amsterdam and the company wraps them in a shirt to hide them. Never heard of a package getting opened.

Big Pharma wants to protect their asses.

[germanico]

(10-20-2013 05:57 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  

I take it sometimes here in mexico. Id much rather have time released adderall

Where do you get it from? Im interested in trying it out...

[ComebackKid]

(11-19-2013 02:32 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(10-20-2013 05:57 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  

I take it sometimes here in mexico. Id much rather have time released adderall

Where do you get it from? Im interested in trying it out...

http://www.gwern.net/Modafinil#grey-markets

Go through this

[germanico]

I meant, in Mexico...

[BlurredLines]

Have taken 100mg (half a small dose) for the very first time this morning. 3 hours in and i feel like i've just had a coffee (i rarely drink caffeine) and have felt like i've just had a coffee for the last 2 hours. No drop off. So far.
Have a heavy work day about to start (12pm UK time). Will let you know this evening how it goes..

[BlurredLines]

Holyeeeeeeee Sheeeeeet. I was really sceptical but barring some crazy crash yet to come (i'm still definitely feeling the effects 15 hours later.. and my pupils seem to have dilated out into my ears in the last hour!) this has been an eye opening experience.
So eye opening that i'm slightly concerned i might like it a bit much. I've never done any drugs beyond Cialis for all night threesome sessions... so i am almost certainly pretty lightweight when it comes to dosing and feeling effects of nootropics.

It's 12.20 am and i have been wired all day, but in a good way. I was doubtful about the claims of calm wakefulness. I didn't see that being possible, but i have to say it describes the effect i'm feeling perfectly. No jitters, no anxiety, nothing. Just that feeling i described earlier of a post coffee buzz (but without any peakiness or adrenalised type feelings), that has lasted 15 hours and counting... crazy.

I've smashed work and tasks today, loads of important projects that i've managed to make significant progress on, including a few where i had been a bit stuck on due to struggling to break through a block and had basically parked while i worked on easier fixes..
At a guess i have got at least 50% more done than a usual busy day. Just never got distracted once from the important stuff.

I am amazed at todays experience, i can't imagine taking more in a dose, in fact i may try halving the dose again and comparing the effects. I don't plan on making it a regular thing, more something i will use at most a few times a week if and when i'm particularly busy..

I'm intrigued to see the effect it might have on my sporting performances, and also my gaming abilities while on it..
The only concern i have (besides the possibility of long term effects that it's impossible to know of despite (limited) research so far being positive) are along the lines of addiction/reliance. I may have just had a great first experience with no side effects at all so far, but if they continue to be like this then the sheer improvement in productivity, let alone the clarity of thought and other positives without any clear downside would be hard to forgo whenever i feel i need to perform. Will definitely have to monitor this.

I'll let you know if there's any more worth reporting on my first experience. Going to sleep shortly. Body feels ready for it, my mind doesn't.. weird.

Ps - i bought 10 200mg Modalert tabs for £10.50 roughly $15. I get the impression that is filthy cheap. I was expecting fakes. These are clearly not..

[Katatonic]

I've been taking Modalert for months now, and it works great for me. I guess some people may not be receptive to it. Now with all this talk of armodafinil I'm going to try that. Looks like I can get 300 tabs for less than $300. I still have 2 1/2 months worth of Modalert so I'll use them up first, before I place that order.

If you have a primary physician like mine, where you just tell him what you want and he writes you the prescription provided it's not pain killers, you can go to the Nuvigil site and print a coupon for your first month free to try it out.

[Sonsowey]

I wonder if it's not effective on certain people.

I don't have ADD but I am pretty distractable. I've tried Aderall and Concerta but really didn't feel any difference at all. I specifically tried it before going in to the office to see if I could beast my boring work for that day, but my boring work was still just as boring and I had more interest in reading things online that are actually interesting. Just like always.

Does Modafinil allow you guys to focus on boring stuff that you really aren't into, like your jobs?

[Katatonic]

(11-25-2013 08:51 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I wonder if it's not effective on certain people.

I don't have ADD but I am pretty distractable. I've tried Aderall and Concerta but really didn't feel any difference at all. I specifically tried it before going in to the office to see if I could beast my boring work for that day, but my boring work was still just as boring and I had more interest in reading things online that are actually interesting. Just like always.

Does Modafinil allow you guys to focus on boring stuff that you really aren't into, like your jobs?

I'm one of those sick fucks who finds everything interesting, but I will say that I read "Tropic of Cancer" in one sitting while on it.

[Checkmat]

(11-25-2013 08:51 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I wonder if it's not effective on certain people.

I don't have ADD but I am pretty distractable. I've tried Aderall and Concerta but really didn't feel any difference at all. I specifically tried it before going in to the office to see if I could beast my boring work for that day, but my boring work was still just as boring and I had more interest in reading things online that are actually interesting. Just like always.

Does Modafinil allow you guys to focus on boring stuff that you really aren't into, like your jobs?

I gotta concur with you on the first part. I have a legit prescription for Nuvigil and it doesn't do shit for me. So under the sink it has gone.

Actually, the only difference I can remember from taking it was that at nightfall I wouldn't want to go to sleep. The desire for sleep just wasn't there. So no, no big benefit for me unless I wanted to stay up all night.

[BlurredLines]

Well given the half life of Modafinil i should be totally purged of it now, and i have had no side effects whatsoever from the first try. If, and its a big IF that experience is duplicated forever after then i'm going to surprise myself and say it's a winner. I would definitely make it a more regular thing in future when required..

As for if it helps you focus on boring stuff..? I suspect it will be different for everyone but yeah i found it did. I seemed to just want to get shit done, including some dull and difficult work projects i had to do.. and was able to stick at it (something i often don't when there's either a more interesting job to be done or whatever else i'd rather be doing). That said i didn't get the impression you'd be able to change you entire mindset on it; like plow through work you otherwise wouldn't really see the point in doing (like a dull job without prospects of direct performance related progress such as bonus or promotion). I'd say i see it more for helping you tackle hard stuff that you know needs to be done but you're trying to avoid, and/or things that require a long period of motivation and concentration to complete.
But hey, i only tried it once. What do i know!

[Jaydublin]

(11-19-2013 02:32 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(10-20-2013 05:57 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  

I take it sometimes here in mexico. Id much rather have time released adderall

Where do you get it from? Im interested in trying it out...

Any pharmacy.... including Walmart lol... Its called Modiadal or something like that.

[NovaVirtu]

(11-25-2013 08:51 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I wonder if it's not effective on certain people.

I don't have ADD but I am pretty distractable. I've tried Aderall and Concerta but really didn't feel any difference at all. I specifically tried it before going in to the office to see if I could beast my boring work for that day, but my boring work was still just as boring and I had more interest in reading things online that are actually interesting. Just like always.

Does Modafinil allow you guys to focus on boring stuff that you really aren't into, like your jobs?

This.

I don't believe ADD is a real "disorder" though- I've heard a theory that "ADD" is how everyone's brain used to be. Not focusing on to much on any one thing, being hyper-aware of everything and easily distracted was actually a benefit to people living in an ancient rain forest where there's a million stimuli coming at you at all times.

In a modern day office setting, when you have to do stuff like pay attention during long meetings, spend hours filling out spreadsheets and shit, not so much.

I am convinced my brain is wired this way because I cannot sit down and do crap like I just mentioned for more than 30 minutes to save my life.

Just read Bold & Determined's article about Modafinil and it's got me pretty pumped. Definitely going give modafinil a try and see it helps with productivity.

[germanico]

(11-26-2013 10:12 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  

Any pharmacy.... including Walmart lol... Its called Modiadal or something like that.

I fucking love Mexico.

[Sourcecode]

I did trials on myself for modafinil.. or actually Adrafinil. Because Its illegal for me to purchase where I am.
I wasnt impressed. It didnt really do anything for me like it did for others.

I actually looked into other stuff. ITs also MUCH cheaper
Aniracetam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniracetam

Ani Did way for me.. It was actually like being on the focus high. I accidentally finished about 70 pages of a book in one sitting. typed 13 pages of research papers AND got an A in one night.
I pretty much got on my computer and let my fingers run wild. I thought of some magical online openers and ended up with 4 dates in 2 days.

When I used it for day game. I felt like I was on fire.. my verbal game was spec ops levels. I don't even know what I was saying..I just let the words come out of my mouth.
The only side effect I had was I felt like my eyes were a little dilated. I had to turn my computer monitor down and i felt like sunlight was a little stronger. Didnt effect anything though.

If anyone doesnt get much mileage out of Modafinil or Adrafinil..I suggest you look into racetams
http://nootropicsdepot.com/aniracetam/

I bought both adrafinil and Aniracetams from Nootropics depot. They send purity paperwork and have multiple site and non site reviews.

some peoples brain chemistry is just different.

[Menace]

Sourcecode, interesting info. I didn't feel I got much out of modafinil. I also tried noopept and it also didn't really do much for me. I ordered some aniracetam, will see how it goes. Do you supplement with choline as well, or just straight ani?

[Sourcecode]

straight ani

[Chewbacon]

(12-08-2013 10:19 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

straight ani

What's your dosage sourcecode?

[Menace]

Dosages for ani I have seen are from 1g - 2g/day. I think you have to play with it. Start low. I'm going to try 1g.

[Moma]

(12-08-2013 04:38 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

I did trials on myself for modafinil.. or actually Adrafinil. Because Its illegal for me to purchase where I am.
I wasnt impressed. It didnt really do anything for me like it did for others.

I actually looked into other stuff. ITs also MUCH cheaper
Aniracetam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniracetam

Ani Did way for me.. It was actually like being on the focus high. I accidentally finished about 70 pages of a book in one sitting. typed 13 pages of research papers AND got an A in one night.
I pretty much got on my computer and let my fingers run wild. I thought of some magical online openers and ended up with 4 dates in 2 days.

When I used it for day game. I felt like I was on fire.. my verbal game was spec ops levels. I don't even know what I was saying..I just let the words come out of my mouth.
The only side effect I had was I felt like my eyes were a little dilated. I had to turn my computer monitor down and i felt like sunlight was a little stronger. Didnt effect anything though.

If anyone doesnt get much mileage out of Modafinil or Adrafinil..I suggest you look into racetams
http://nootropicsdepot.com/aniracetam/

I bought both adrafinil and Aniracetams from Nootropics depot. They send purity paperwork and have multiple site and non site reviews.

some peoples brain chemistry is just different.

How long you been using these racetrams? Point me to these reviews..

[Sourcecode]

I pretty much googled aniracetam
I looked through the reddit nootropics sections every now an then
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comme...anged_man/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comme...holy_shit/
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/655...niracetam/
http://www.socialanxietysupport.com/foru...ew-104439/

http://www.aniracetamdosage.com/

Quote:

Aniracetam is a fat soluble substance and is highly recommended to be taken with food containing lipids. Aniracetam may be taken with fish oil or coconut oil. Spread the aniracetam dosage over 2-3 times, during the day. This will take advantage of studying or if you are working late at night without still thinking when you go bed. The dosage is 1500 mg per day, divided into two 750 mg doses. Take one in the morning and one in the afternoon. Aniracetam is available in tablet and powder form.

Almost every personal review and website quotes 750mg twice I day. 1500mg total.

I bought the power and pill them myself. Filling them to the top I always get about between .4 and .45mg
Ill would buckle down after dinner and take 2 pills and then 2hours later or so I would take the next dose and just blaze through the night.
So im pretty much taking about 800or so mg at a time and up to 1700mg in a a 5-6 hour window as opposed to spacing it out over the day

IVe only taken them once or twice in the morning and afternoon. but the way my day is schedule...I dont need to be super cognitive so its no point.

I also dont want to take them daily cause ive seen other reviews where people say after a while the effects move off. people wil start cycling through different racetams every so often. when one gets old the find one with a slightly different chemical make up.
thats why there are so many racetams on the market. Even reputable companies know its just a race to the next market.

Again if you look at
http://nootropicsdepot.com/nootropics/

They show the chemical make up and often send you a lab report with your stuff. I got one when they sent me adrafinil with purity results.
You can see the racetams all have similar makes but a tossed in molecule somewhere. Its the same way drug companies get ways around patents

[Moma]

Has anyone tried taking it with grapefruit juice (freshly squeezed NOT from the box) for absorptive purposes?

[germanico]

My understanding is that grapefruit juice disrupts the absorption of chemicals in the digestive tract, hence its not recommended to drink grapefruit juice when taking meds.

[roberto]

Well, here we go.

Down the hatch five minutes ago. I swear I already feel like I'm searching for the next thing to do, but I'm prepared to accept that's a placebo effect at this moment in time. I will check back in this evening, assuming I don't drop dead.