[3extra]

(08-11-2014 08:34 AM)Fred970 Wrote:  

Girls hate bald men and there is no way around that fact, but you'll learn that only when you'll be bald yourself. Being shaved is nowhere like being bald.

Girls hate bald men - yet you have a 'higher notch count than the average guy at the age of 24.' And are bald.

Computer says no. . .

[Fred970]

I just have other qualities to compensate: I'm 6"3', I have a good face, perfect head shape, good sense of humour etc.

But take an average guy in height, looks, inner game etc. give him a shiny bald head in his early 20's and just watch the girls his age run from him with disgust.

Many times when I have trouble closing or when a girl is breaking up with me, she'll just mention the fact that I'm bald.

She'll say I'm bald, therefore I'm desperate and pathetic. I've had that problem with many girls, it's like they have good time with me, laugh all the time, forget my baldness.

Then all of a sudden they wake up: "What?! What am I doing with this guy, he's bald! I deserve better! I'm sorry we're too different!"

It's like all the girls dating me are OK with it because I have good game, but they're somehow aware that they're making a compromise by dating a bald man.

Just be aware of this: no girl in her teens or twenties has "bald" written on her shopping list when looking for a mate. Hell I even heard fat women saying they would never date a bald man.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have that problem if I had hair. Well, I'll see for myself if there's a difference when my transplant will have fully grown.

What are you suggesting RioNomad? That if I was buffed, these girls wouldn't dare breaking up with me?

Maybe you're right about the guys (yes because it's often guys) mocking me in public. They probably would tone it down a bit if I was huge.

[worldwidetraveler]

(08-11-2014 10:36 AM)Fred970 Wrote:  

I just have other qualities to compensate: I'm 6"3', I have a good face, perfect head shape, good sense of humour etc.

But take an average guy in height, looks, inner game etc. give him a shiny bald head in his early 20's and just watch the girls his age run from him with disgust.

Many times when I have trouble closing or when a girl is breaking up with me, she'll just mention the fact that I'm bald.

She'll say I'm bald, therefore I'm desperate and pathetic. I've had that problem with many girls, it's like they have good time with me, laugh all the time, forget my baldness.

Then all of a sudden they wake up: "What?! What am I doing with this guy, he's bald! I deserve better! I'm sorry we're too different!"

It's like all the girls dating me are OK with it because I have good game, but they're somehow aware that they're making a compromise by dating a bald man.

Just be aware of this: no girl in her teens or twenties has "bald" written on her shopping list when looking for a mate. Hell I even heard fat women saying they would never date a bald man.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have that problem if I had hair. Well, I'll see for myself if there's a difference when my transplant will have fully grown.

What are you suggesting RioNomad? That if I was buffed, these girls wouldn't dare breaking up with me?

Maybe you're right about the guys (yes because it's often guys) mocking me in public. They probably would tone it down a bit if I was huge.

Girls can pick up on your insecurities and use them against you. Being bald is a major insecurity with you and they use it to push your buttons.

Judging from your posts, you need to do a lot of work on yourself. Working out is a good way to instill confidence. Something you seem to be lacking in a major way.

[TheBulldozer]

Rio,

We'll probably cross paths at some point in this part of the world. Based on everything I've read, we look really similar. I hope we like different types of women when we hang!

[ddjembe mutombo]

I don't believe that women hate bald men. You may lose a point or two at onset, but you can easily gain that back. Any girl who has the requirement of "not bald" or "not short" is a girl that isn't worth an ounce of your time anyway. If you have confidence and the top of your head looks clean then your lack of hair won't make a bit of difference.

[Fred970]

One point or two?



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Yeah keep telling yourself that.

[Rush87]

^^^ To be fair there is about 20 years age difference ^^^

This is a fairer example.









If your not aesthetic with hair, you won't be without. If your aesthetic with hair, you'll be aesthetic without it.

All you can really do - Is maximise what you've got. Like people have said, get tanned, get the best physique you can attain, get great style etc etc.

[shreyas24]

(08-15-2013 06:48 PM)rudder Wrote:  

I refuse to believe that with all the scientific advancement of the past few decades that we have not figured out how to cure baldness.

The shampoos and all those things don't work.

I figured someone on the roosh forum would know the answer.

What really works? I have a receding hairline, and it seems like it has really been picking up the pace these past few months. I want the hair to start growing back again.

Only Hair Transplantation is the best rather than any treatment.

[Fred970]

(08-12-2014 04:11 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

Get tanned, get the best physique you can attain, get great style etc etc.

You know as bald men, we never get tired of these silly suggestions. And of course you're not bald yourself. Increase your risk of skin cancer, bust yourself in the gym to the point of becoming a stereotype. All we see is: "overcompensate, overcompensate, overcompensate"

Of course you had to take a guy who had silly haircuts before he lost it, and he's not even completely bald, as he still has the stubble.

You suggest all that because there is this belief that nothing can be done about being bald, so you just have to let it go and do bodybuilding/get a MBA/become a millionaire. Easy. If you're educated about it, hair transplants can do wonders and turn a bald man into a guy who seems to have hair again (it's all about illusion with the grafts placement).

You never see that kind of overcompensation advice to guys who are fat. You would just say "Hey lose the weight fat-ass!" Not: "Just become rich, powerful, tanned and girls won't care if you're fat!"

Then when you see bald men looking for advice, why don't you just say to them: "Hey, just make some money and get a high-end hair transplant baldie!" No you have to tell them to overcompensate in every other aspect of their life so this major flaw will be less noticeable. Weird double-standard.

[Rush87]

(08-12-2014 05:40 AM)Fred970 Wrote:  

You know as bald men, we never get tired of these silly suggestions. And of course you're not bald yourself. Increase your risk of skin cancer, bust yourself in the gym to the point of becoming a stereotype. All we see is: "overcompensate, overcompensate, overcompensate"

These suggestions apply to everyone bald or not. Women as a primary objective in life is relatively unhealthy. If it's your number one goal [To bang] an 'unhealthy overcompensation' attitude to your appearance will be the best way to achieve that goal. In the exact same vein; if someones primary goal is to win the tour de france, the harsh reality is that you'll likely need to take performance enhancing drugs. This is an extreme analogy but applicable none the less.

Balding men account for roughly 10-20% in their 20's. They are the minority. Every single man on this forum however, at some point or another clearly had trouble with the opposite sex. This means 80% of guys with hair, weren't doing so well.

Every guy wants to be that person that doesn't have to lift a finger for pussy. Hair loss or not 99% of people aren't that guy.

The harsh reality is that if you want to get extreme results you need to take extreme actions:

-Get a tan [Risk Skin Cancer]
-Get jacked [Take Gear - Risk Health]
-Big nose [Fix it]
-Weak Jaw [Fix it]
-Poor Style [Fix it]
-Weak Game [Fix it]
-Hair Loss [Overcompensate with the above]

It sucks - but if anyone desperately wants to be 'that guy' - Outside of winning the genetic lottery you have weigh up the pro's & con's of what's going to allow you to get what you want.

[Fred970]

Why not:

-Hair loss [Fix it]

I don't get it.

[WanderingSoul]

(08-12-2014 05:40 AM)Fred970 Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 04:11 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

Get tanned, get the best physique you can attain, get great style etc etc.

You know as bald men, we never get tired of these silly suggestions. And of course you're not bald yourself. Increase your risk of skin cancer, bust yourself in the gym to the point of becoming a stereotype. All we see is: "overcompensate, overcompensate, overcompensate"

Of course you had to take a guy who had silly haircuts before he lost it, and he's not even completely bald, as he still has the stubble.

You suggest all that because there is this belief that nothing can be done about being bald, so you just have to let it go and do bodybuilding/get a MBA/become a millionaire. Easy. If you're educated about it, hair transplants can do wonders and turn a bald man into a guy who seems to have hair again (it's all about illusion with the grafts placement).

You never see that kind of overcompensation advice to guys who are fat. You would just say "Hey lose the weight fat-ass!" Not: "Just become rich, powerful, tanned and girls won't care if you're fat!"

Then when you see bald men looking for advice, why don't you just say to them: "Hey, just make some money and get a high-end hair transplant baldie!" No you have to tell them to overcompensate in every other aspect of their life so this major flaw will be less noticeable. Weird double-standard.

You're never going to improve your life because you are a crybaby with a defeatist mentality and you reek of insecurity. That's 100% the truth.

This is a forum for men wanting to improve themselves in any way that they can. You should head over to a MGTOW forum and do your poor me routine with other like minded "men".

[Onto]

(08-12-2014 06:17 AM)Fred970 Wrote:  

Why not:

-Hair loss [Fix it]

I don't get it.

Fred, I'm bald and started to in my early 20's. I understand how you feel. At first I felt the same way, but over time I realized the hair didn't matter. Especially since I was still dating the same quality of women.

The way to fix hair loss is let go of your attachment to it. You are both the prisoner and the jailer.

If we want a woman to realize we are special, unique.

Hair is not unique, everyones has some.
Muscles are not unique, most have them too.
Same goes for clothes, cars, etc.

Women are in love with the masculine. A man who lives his life with purpose, who is strong emotionally/financially like a rock, can sacrifice, is not self-indulgent, can take action in the world and protect, is independent, and shows no fear in the face of the feminine.

Being the best man you can "naturally" be, spiritually, physically, and financially will show your worth as a man and women will be attracted to it. That's your cure.

Finally, don't divide us as into those who have hair and those who don't. We are all men.

[Rush87]

(08-12-2014 06:17 AM)Fred970 Wrote:  

Why not:

-Hair loss [Fix it]

I don't get it.

Depends on how bad it is. Sometimes there is nothing that can be done.

In another thread I wrote about how my brother had fairly aggressive hair loss from the age of 20. There is no cure currently.

His hair loss was too aggressive to replace the entirety of what he lost. What he ended up doing was get [As you said] FUE to frame the face. Obviously the top & back are still thin/visibly bald but it makes a difference.

That probably should have been one of my other factors on top of all the 'overcompensation' points.

[worldwidetraveler]

(08-12-2014 05:40 AM)Fred970 Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 04:11 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

Get tanned, get the best physique you can attain, get great style etc etc.

You know as bald men, we never get tired of these silly suggestions. And of course you're not bald yourself. Increase your risk of skin cancer, bust yourself in the gym to the point of becoming a stereotype. All we see is: "overcompensate, overcompensate, overcompensate"

Of course you had to take a guy who had silly haircuts before he lost it, and he's not even completely bald, as he still has the stubble.

You suggest all that because there is this belief that nothing can be done about being bald, so you just have to let it go and do bodybuilding/get a MBA/become a millionaire. Easy. If you're educated about it, hair transplants can do wonders and turn a bald man into a guy who seems to have hair again (it's all about illusion with the grafts placement).

You never see that kind of overcompensation advice to guys who are fat. You would just say "Hey lose the weight fat-ass!" Not: "Just become rich, powerful, tanned and girls won't care if you're fat!"

Then when you see bald men looking for advice, why don't you just say to them: "Hey, just make some money and get a high-end hair transplant baldie!" No you have to tell them to overcompensate in every other aspect of their life so this major flaw will be less noticeable. Weird double-standard.

Nah, the double standard is all in your head, at least on this forum. I haven't read anywhere, on this forum, that people are telling someone it is ok to be fat.

Your insecurity doesn't mean anything to us. It's your life but don't bring that nonsense on this forum.

This is a forum for men, not whiners.

I have shaved my head for years. The quality of girls actually went up when I stared shaving. I have never had a girl say anything bad about my head nor have I had guys openly taunt my beautiful cranium. It's all because you don't know how to rock it.

[Fred970]

It's because you are not bald. They know you can just grow your hair back if you want.

The viciousness of people commenting is that they know or hope that you are screwed for life. They want to feel superior to you by shoving it in your face.

That kind of response shows how people who do not have this problem are oblivious of what a nightmare it is for the individual. The "it's all in your head" is especially rude. Hair loss is a silent epidemic that society doesn't allow you to talk about, you're not even allowed to talk about it on forum for men.

You didn't understand what I was saying. When a fat guy asks advice, you will tell me to get up from his ass and start losing weight, but when a guy ask about solutions for his baldness (like in this topic), you will say to him: work out, become rich, buy new clothes, but rarely "gain some more hair by having a hair transplant!"

I'm not whining, just stating the reality of the situation for young bald men. It's not just me, I see everyday around me and in stories friends tell me. How their co-workers get mocked and abused for having no hair. How women chose them over some bald dude in the club and how women admit to them that it's one of the most important physical traits in a man.

[worldwidetraveler]

(08-12-2014 10:28 AM)Fred970 Wrote:  

It's because you are not bald. They know you can just grow your hair back if you want.

The viciousness of people commenting is that they know or hope that you are screwed for life. They want to feel superior to you by shoving it in your face.

That kind of response shows how people who do not have this problem are oblivious of what a nightmare it is for the individual. The "it's all in your head" is especially rude. Hair loss is a silent epidemic that society doesn't allow you to talk about, you're not even allowed to talk about it on forum for men.

You didn't understand what I was saying. When a fat guy asks advice, you will tell me to get up from his ass and start losing weight, but when a guy ask about solutions for his baldness (like in this topic), you will say to him: work out, become rich, buy new clothes, but rarely "gain some more hair by having a hair transplant!"

I'm not whining, just stating the reality of the situation for young bald men. It's not just me, I see everyday around me and in stories friends tell me. How their co-workers get mocked and abused for having no hair. How women chose them over some bald dude in the club and how women admit to them that it's one of the most important physical traits in a man.

I am bald. I wouldn't be shaving my head if I wasn't. You are so insecure you have to make up stories.

[Onto]

Fred, you're certainly allowed to talk about it. You're still here aren't you? It's just you probably won't find anyone on this forum who will agree that's something to be in dispair about.

You are creating your own nightmare. People here are trying to show you another reality exists. One that can be yours.

[Fred970]

I had a group of of people mocking me and singing "HE HAS NO HAIIIR, HE HAS NO HAIIIIIR!" once at a bar. Everyone was starring at me and it was one of the most embarrassing moments of my life, I was so ashamed. You think I'm making this up right? It sounds unreal. No, this truly happened to me. Anyway, the nightmare is almost over for me since I will soon have my hair again.

It's just that I think people should be aware of the reality that some hair loss sufferers have to go through and that people who do not suffer from, or that have somehow convinced themselves that it is not an issue and that women love it (male hamster at work here in my opinion) should not look down on this problem.

[worldwidetraveler]

(08-12-2014 11:38 AM)Fred970 Wrote:  

I had a group of of people mocking me and singing "HE HAS NO HAIIIR, HE HAS NO HAIIIIIR!" once at a bar. Everyone was starring at me and it was one of the most embarrassing moments of my life, I was so ashamed. You think I'm making this up right? It sounds unreal. No, this truly happened to me. Anyway, the nightmare is almost over for me since I will soon have my hair again.

It's just that I think people should be aware of the reality that some hair loss sufferers have to go through and that people who do not suffer from, or that have somehow convinced themselves that it is not an issue and that women love it (male hamster at work here in my opinion) should not look down on this problem.

That is the difference between you and me. I wouldn't have been upset. Hell, I probably would have joined them and sang along. Maybe even charge them some money to touch my handsome head.

The fact is you don't (nor I) have hair. What they are saying is the truth.

I remember when I was in India and one the the people who sells stuff on the beach made a joke about my head looking like a coconut. We all laughed. After that, I went into my rental and banged my hot Russian girl for many hours.

I don't recommend hair transplants because I'm not interested in them. I don't want to take drugs in order to keep hair. I rather shave my head and get on with life. The hair transplant won't solve your problems, man.

[Onto]

The nightmare may be just beginning if your life doesn't change after your new head of hair.

A long time ago I was chatting up a girl at a party and she mentioned my thinning hair, and I responded by feinging shock, touching my head all over, and saying, "Are you sure? Wait, you're right! When did this happen?!" She burst out laughing and I banged her later that night.

Don't take people so seriously, and most especially yourself.

[Fred970]

The question is: what would they have sung if I had my hair?

No one ever made any comment about my physical appearance when I had my hair.

Why then when I had some hair again thanks to my treatments some years ago, there wasn't any mockeries anymore?

Good for you if you have found a solution that works. I preferred to have a hair transplant and use Rogaine, and then move get on with life too.

You don't understand, my life doesn't have to change, because it's already pretty good.

I'd just like to avoid these situations when I'm mocked in public, or some women rejecting me off the bat because I have no hair.

A woman I approached said to me bluntly: "No I could never date you, bald men are not my thing". Or once I got: "I have to be able to run my hand through my boyfriend's hair, admit that it's nice when you do it to your girlfriend!"

Denying that being bald means instant disqualification for some women is just being delusional.

[3extra]

(08-12-2014 12:16 PM)Fred970 Wrote:  

The question is: what would they have sung if I had my hair?

No one ever made any comment about my physical appearance when I had my hair.

Why then when I had some hair again thanks to my treatments, there wasn't any mockeries anymore?

Good for you if you have found a solution that work. I preferred to have a hair transplant and use Rogaine, and then move get on with life too.

Who gives a shit what they sang? The moment you take it as a joke and can laugh at yourself, the moment the slagging stops. When I started losing mine I buzzed it straight away - I thought 'I'm going to look like this eventually, so may as well get used to it now'. I'll often preempt people and make a joke about it myself.

I lifted when I had a full head of hair, I still lift now. Not to 'overcompensate' but because I love the endorphin high I get from exercise, and feeling fit. Look at Kelly Slater, he's completely bald and is not a 'roid head'. Doubt he has any problems slaying chicks.

It's hair mate. It's not as if you've suddenly become a mutant or lost a leg.

How much is a hair transplant, $15K? Money better spent on a 6 month round-the-world trip in my opinion.

I wouldn't waste money or time worrying about something that's out of your control like hair loss. Focus on the stuff you can control.

Play the cards your dealt.

[Onto]

(08-12-2014 12:16 PM)Fred970 Wrote:  

A woman I approached said to me bluntly: "No I could never date you, bald men are not my thing". Or once I got: "I have to be able to run my hand through my boyfriend's hair, admit that it's nice when you do it to your girlfriend!"

Denying that being bald means instant disqualification for some women is just being delusional.

The lengths some men will go to please women.

[Fred970]

The thing, they did not do it simply to have a laugh, they wanted to humiliate me in front of the whole bar. They would never have dared to do that to a fat person. Because it's acceptable to take baldness as a joke, but not obesity, which is manageable.

Yeah I guess finding ways to please women is off-topic on this forum right?

I paid 6000$ for my hair transplant. I thought a lot about it, for two years. Nothing could make me happier in life. Not lifting, not drowning in pussy, not even becoming a millionaire. It's not only for the opposite sex, it's also to feel good about what you see in the mirror. You can't deny confidence often stems from looking good and most of all thinking you look good.

I'm sure all bald guys would take their hair back in a heartbeat if there was an easy cure. This is silly to believe that hair loss cannot be controlled, we might not have a full-blown cure (hence the title of this topic), but it can be managed through medication, surgery and even make-up.

Kelly Slater is celebrity for god's sake, he would get women even if he had half his face burned off. Speaking of celebrities, just imagine George Clooney looking like this:



He would just lose his status of sex-symbol immediately, and his career would most likely be over. Well, maybe he could play in Expendables 4 though.