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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year
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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

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http://www.businessinsider.com/how-i-liv...000-2013-6

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Frankly, it’s pretty easy to live comfortably in a big city like Tokyo on less than $30,000 per year.

Here’s how I did it:

Background

I lived in Tokyo (supposedly the most expensive city in the world according to the Economics Intelligence Unit) right after college graduation from 2004-2005 for almost a year. All numbers in this post are amortized for 1 year of living. I actually did not optimize for saving or scrimping at ALL and yet accidentally saved a lot of money.

Breakdown of my expenses (per month)

$1000 housing + gas/water/electricity
$600 food + drinks
$50 cell phone
$40 one-time furnishings (divided by 12 months in a year)
$50 toiletries
$60 vacation (I took one $700 vacation while there)
$300 misc entertainment (books, cds, day trips)
= $2100 per month or $25,200 per year

Including taxes/medicare/social security, that comes out to a $30k per year salary. You might have some question marks about these numbers, so let’s dive in.

1) I lived close to work

When I moved to Tokyo, my goal was to optimize for happiness, not savings. Time and again, studies show that commutes make people miserable. In some cases, you actually know you’re miserable in your commute, because you are cursing at all the other people around you. But, at other times, commute-frustration is more subtle. It manifests itself in the frustration of having wasted 1-2 hours of your day that you don’t realize you could otherwise have.

Living close to work is a big part of my own happiness, I’ve found. So, when I got to Tokyo, I paid $1000 to live in a nice part of the heart of the city (in Meguro). I would take the train, ride my bike, or walk to work. (My company covered my train tickets so if I were really optimizing for savings, the right thing to have done would’ve been to live far away in a cheap place and commute in saving even more money).

My apartment was 5 years new and a few minutes walk from the train station. So why was my apartment so cheap? Well, it was only 300 square feet - just slightly bigger than my dorm room in college. I never threw parties there, but in big cities, people go out to party — why would you stay at home? When I was deciding on whether to get a bigger place, I knew that in the end I would not be spending most of my time at my apartment, because I would either be at work or out and that getting a bigger place wouldn’t increase my happiness. I also underestimated how much of a perk a small apartment could be: cleaning and tidying only took ten minutes each week!

2) I cooked a lot

My food/drink expenditures were really low, because I mostly cooked. The first month I was in Tokyo, I ate out A LOT. Every meal. And then I felt awful. Those bento boxes actually have a lot of grease. And even a sushi dinner can make you feel terrible, because many meals don’t have a lot of vegetables. So, I started to cook out of health reasons, which ended up saving me a lot of money. I spent about $100-200 per month on groceries and would cook up a storm of veggies and meats each Sunday that I would eat for lunch and dinner on the weekdays.

I went out every Friday and Saturday, and spent about $100 each weekend on eating out, drinking, karaoking. I had some friends who were bankers who would go out a lot more and spend a lot more money. I would often join them a bit later — such as after dinner or at the 2nd bar, because spending money on an extra 3 cocktails would not have made me feel happier or better about myself.

3) I bought furniture from rich ex-pats

This is a tip that I don’t read about at all on money-focused blogs. The best way to get good stuff is to buy them slightly used from rich people. Major cities are great for finding rich ex-pats who are selling stuff for cheap, because they are always trying to get rid of their stuff in a hurry. Heck, I was at a party at the US embassy once, and they were giving away kimonos worth thousands of dollars!

I used the Tokyo Metropolis to buy my TV, bed, washer/dryer, microwave, rice cooker, utensils — basically everything! No item cost me more than $50, and many items were free since people were in a hurry to leave. So I furnished my apartment for well under $500, which comes out to $40 per month. The nice thing about living in a rich area is that I was often close enough to pick up these items and carry them on the subway or get help with a drop-off.

I also made my own decorations. I printed photos of my friends and family and hung those on my walls. I bought material to make my own curtains for $20, and hung those using lots of paper clips and pins — they looked like real curtains.

The general tip here is to be resourceful. Don’t just blindly buy stuff from a department store.

4) My friend built me a bike for free

The other perk about living in a rich area is that rich people would often throw away nice things that were still functional. My friend Jason often found really nice mountain bikes worth thousands of dollars in people’s trash and would clean them up and add/change out a few parts. It was nice of him to give me one of his findings, and honestly, that was the best bike that I’m sure I will ever own!

Having a bike then made it easy to explore the city. Every park and event happening anywhere in the city was then easily accessible. One of the best investments for happiness, exploring, and finding very cool things.

5) I didn’t have a smart phone or internet at home

This is a bit ironic, since I run an internet company now. I had meant to get internet installed at my apartment but ended up spending so much time either at work or out in the city that I didn’t have time to wait for someone to install my internet at home! It turned out that I did not miss being connected for an extra 3 hours per day.

I also had a dumb phone, and frankly, I would revert back to a dumb phone again today if I didn’t have customers I need to keep up with on the weekends. When you have no car, you have no need for driving directions. Personal email can always wait and that’s about all I use a smart phone for.

This is how you save a lot of money to live comfortably in big cities:

Cook a lot - healthier and saves A LOT of $$
Buy used things from rich people. Ex-pats, in particular, give away lots of free, nice stuff
Bike everywhere - healthier, makes you feel better about yourself, and saves $$
Hang out with friends who spend the same amount of money as you and when you hang out with friends who spend more money, join them later
Get a small apartment in an ideal location
What would a larger salary get me?

By optimizing for my happiness, I ended up spending the equivalent of a $30k salary (post taxes, etc) even though I made more money than that. I found that when I went out to eat everyday, in the beginning, it was a special treat. But, then it became a habit — I wasn’t deriving more happiness from going out to eat more — it was becoming something that I just did. It was also way more unhealthy. I also tried to buy cool gadgets while in Japan, and at first, the extra gifts for myself made me feel excited, but after a while, I just got used to them. It was just more stuff that I had. I could’ve probably spent more money going on vacation, but I didn’t have enough vacation days to go for more than one trip that year, so I couldn’t have spent more in that category either.

In the end, there wasn’t anything else that I could’ve bought that would’ve made me feel happier. To be fair, if I had made $30k per year, I would’ve had 0 savings, and that would’ve been problematic in the long-run. But if the question is whether you can live comfortably on $30k in a big city without scrimping — definitely.

In the end, I found that what increased my happiness wasn’t actually material: meeting new people, spending time with friends, exploring new places in town, and seeing events and cultural activities. These are all things that make your life comfortable and happy and that money can’t buy.



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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

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In the end, I found that what increased my happiness wasn’t actually material: meeting new people, spending time with friends, exploring new places in town, and seeing events and cultural activities. These are all things that make your life comfortable and happy and that money can’t buy.

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Quote: (06-20-2013 02:27 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Are you the author of this article?

No I didn't write this.
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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

yeah bicycle.. I get it everywhere I gonna stay longer than a month, really worth it!
And cooking at home, for me its a must, with quantity that I eat hehe.
Good tip on buying from expats. How did u get to know them in Tokio (I assume some local forum, right)? And what would be the general guideline for obtaining kind of contacts, regardless of the city?
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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

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Again - I didn't write this article.

Maybe other Tokyo people can chime in.

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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

the guy doesn't mention girls/girlfriend - suspicious

some very useful ideas otherwise

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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

Quote: (06-20-2013 05:55 AM)zanetti Wrote:  

the guy doesn't mention girls/girlfriend - suspicious

some very useful ideas otherwise

I'm pretty sure a woman wrote this.

Besides, it's Business Insider. They're not going to talk about pickup

Still useful information though IMO.
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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

Quote: (06-20-2013 05:55 AM)zanetti Wrote:  

the guy doesn't mention girls/girlfriend - suspicious

That's because he is a she:

[Image: elizabeth-yin.jpg]
source: http://www.businessinsider.com/author/elizabeth-yin

I wonder how many free drinks/meals she was able to hustle as a female?
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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

She also looks to be some sort of half/Asian. Surname provides similar indications. I'm sure this is probably a huge advantage in any Asian country.
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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

Add about 10% due to the weaker $. She also didn't pay for train tickets, which would have added $100-200/month. So you are looking at around $30K in expenses to live a minimalist lifestyle (so you'd probably need a salary around $35K if you follow her assumptions on taxes, etc). And you are living in a 10ft X 10ft room at that level of rent (the 300 sq ft place she wrote about might be obtainable if you are signing a 12 month lease).

The article seems frivolous and generally useless re: economizing in Tokyo or realistically making a budget. #1 relates to quality of life. #2 is of doubtful accuracy given that eating out is cheap relative to groceries in Japan unless she was just eating a lot of rice and not much meat. #3 and #4 involve trivial savings on one-time purchases. I suppose everyone already knows you can search around and find cheap used stuff. That is true almost anywhere. #5 also involves trivial savings and would interfere with your social/working life given the importance of texting.
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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

I was in Osaka from 2004-2005 and it was cheaper than when I lived in Tokyo in summer 2006. The exchange rate was 115 yen to 1 USD then... Now it's like 98 yen to 1 USD..!

The whole bicycle thing reminds me of this Japanese couple who had a racket selling used bikes to International Students. They had a shop located a block from the Int'l Student house and would essentially buy bikes for $50 and sell them for $100. It was hilarious. Also, you have to register bikes with the city, so that's like an additional $10.
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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

Quote: (06-20-2013 07:48 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

[Image: elizabeth-yin.jpg]

I wonder how many free drinks/meals she was able to hustle as a female?

With a face like that, in Tokyo...

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How I lived in Tokyo for 30K a Year

Some useful info there. Don't expect to copy her exactly.

Sure, she probably got the bike and maybe more by flashing her eyelashes, but if you have some game, you can do equivalent.

I don't think Tokyo is like other places for getting cheap or free slightly used stuff.
I haven't been there for 20 years, but I remember they take consumerism or shiny object syndrome to a whole new level, making Americans look like amateurs at it.

Especially bulky items, with Tokyo space at a premium, like leather lounge suites, sound systems, etc. You would find last years model on the side of the road at inorganic collection day.

Only place in the world I've heard of someone deserting a broken down Ferarri on the side of the road.

So yes, the cheap/free tip is gold if you are living there.
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Quote: (06-20-2013 04:43 AM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

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Again - I didn't write this article.

Maybe other Tokyo people can chime in.

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$1000 a month for rent is pretty steep, yes she lived in Meguro (I did at one point for about two years) which is a rich area but you could get the same type of place for about 6-700 a month. . .

Yes there is discrimination with finding an apartment if you're not Japanese but, I'm assuming that she was a white female (they are put on a pedastal there hardore) so she'd be fine finding a place to rent.

In anycasae, $1000 a month is way too much, I was in a 2 bedroom aptabout 20 mintue sby train to the center of the city for $850/month for a while. But yeah you can actually save a lot more money on a 30k/year salary, I was able to save about 5-600 a month (which I tried to use to run a business that. . .failed but that's another story)

but you can actually save money.

For girls, you can do daygame, or game online. If you're white, you can do pretty well online, if not, you'd have to make a decent picture/profile etc. . .

Clubs are good too, club game is a bit easier on where you go, you've got to find your own niche though, some clubs are better for some people than others. But if you do go to clubs, GO EARLY. girls ar ethere early, guys aren't, they are more receptive early. . .you get the drift.

Recycle Shops - almost forgot about that. Pretty much I got my furniture there, Id get a nice computer chair and desk for about 20-30 bucks, they had it delivered to my place as well. Got a fan, humidifier for the winter, all sorts of stuff for cheap. People don't really know about those for some reason. But you can get a LOT of decent stuff there for cheap.

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^ Yeah, i've looked up tons of places on Craigslist, that had $500 like-new rooms. They looked phenomenal. Sometimes wondered if it was a scam. But yea, you would be with like 3 other graduate students or whatever, which for me is honestly a good thing. I'm hoping that if I ever move there, I'd manage to find a solid studio for $800/mo.
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Quote: (06-20-2013 07:48 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  

That's because he is a she:

[Image: elizabeth-yin.jpg]
source: http://www.businessinsider.com/author/elizabeth-yin

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