[AkiKinnunen]

(05-17-2017 09:01 AM)edlefou Wrote:  

Patriarch Ponds is also my favorite spot, not just for dates, but for chilling out as well. I'm a big fan of Bulgakov, so I like the energy there and am always on the lookout for giant cats.

The historic building at the end is a cafe/restaurant with a patio looking out over the pond. Occasionally it's booked for weddings and private events, but generally it's open to the public. You might be thinking of Clean Ponds (Chistiy Prudi), which has a high-end spa/gym looking out over the ponds.

I had some dates at the good old Pavilion, but well they closed. It was a rather expensive restaurant (you are paying for the nice pond view), but really nice food. A table at the patio was very helpful for romantic encounters. The same guys (old owners) opened a new restaurant in another cool area of Moscow thou.
Now the new owners of this place are making some structural changes there. I am not sure about their concept. It is still закрыт на реконструкцию. Not far from there, there is a small less expensive bar where I usually go for some shots. Alcohol helps sometimes in the game, but yes if a girl is not DTF then no Jaergermeister will help you out, it is IMO just a waste of time and money.

[gework]

Does anyone have tips for seriously pursuing a conservative Russian girl? Some of what I read in this thread and elsewhere is relevant some isn't. It's hard to really gauge her interest level. It seems good and then neutral. She doesn't show other commonly mentioned hypergemous and bitch shield type behaviour.

Some details:

- Age: 20
- Looking to get married
- Very soft and demure; has spoken of her vulnerability (which seems to be the soft type rather than ratty)
- Lives in a second tier city, but from somewhere more obscure; wants to move
- I'm able to make her laugh a lot
- Not a feminist
- Really likes to talk about refined, dreamy and feminine art
- No sign of gold digging
- Happy to stay in Russia
- I don't think she has a clear idea of where her life is going

[icrus]

No joke: ask your grandfather. Grandfather game required for these girls. Be nice. Slight dashes of alpha. Show strong interest in her country and culture. Have actual common interests. Be uber- gentlemanly. Become a father figure. Figure out her sexuality but don't go predator on her. Most importantly: don't drop her after sex, show affection.

Bottom line just be really nice and not an asshole (not in a soy way ofc). If that's your type of woman then waiting for sex should not be an issue for you.

[gowest]

Be a provider.

[speedster]

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