Why do some guys have this fetish/fantasy? I can't see the appeal of watching or knowing my girlfriend/wife is getting banged out like a Congo drum by some other dude. Were these unfortunate souls sexually humiliated as a child and somehow their sexuality formed around that one event? Have you ever known someone with a cuckold fetish or have been the 'bull' - The 'Bull' being the guy fucking the other guy's wife.
Cuckold Fetish
I never understood this fetish and think it's fucking disgusting, plus has to be the ultimate way to feel emasculated as a man. If I had to guess it has to do with the fact that 90% of adult men in their 20's grew up jerking off to online porn, which overtime maybe has warped people's minds. In porn you are getting aroused and getting off watching two strangers fuck, so it's possible that a guy would get a more intense voyeuristic arousal from watching his girl get fucked by another dude in person. Also I think most dudes who are getting cuckolded have really small penises so they probably have lot's of feeling of shame, inadequency, and low self-esteem stemming from that.
Some like to give, some like to take. Just the way it is. Cannot be objectively analyzed.
Quote: (04-28-2013 01:24 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:
If I had to guess it has to do with the fact that 90% of adult men in their 20's grew up jerking off to online porn, which overtime maybe has warped people's minds.
Heres where I feel like you might not know what youre talking about.
Only time I ever see anything related to cuckholding. its older dudes. The whole cuckhold porn niche is almost soley older white dude with a black dude banging the wife out.
I dont see young dudes getting into this..unless they are the "bull"
But ive been approached more than once by way past their prime women to be their bull.
But for the record. I have no idea why dudes would be into this.
I would guess its omega level or something.
betas wouldnt wanna watch the wife get banged..but i can see and"omega" thinking he will do whatever makes his wife happy.
*incidentally* I was the bull for a relatively young couple.
husband was early thirties,wife was late thirties.
I would bang his wife out while he would record it.
His wife was a amateur german pin up model.
I wasnt gonna ask the details of why he liked it that way..
He never wanted to join in..just watch.
And he was a mechanic that dealt with export cars...not the type that one would expect to be a cuckhold
but to each,his own
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Two issues:
Women cheat so guys have evolved methods to deal with it biologically. There's two types of sperm. One type is for reaching the egg, the other is for killing other guys' sperm. After a couple has been apart the man produces more killer sperm. Also, why do so many couples have sex after arguing? Because the chances are higher that one or both strayed recently. Many people say that the post argument sex is the hottest. The prospect of the woman cheating should turn the guy on so he can get some killer sperm in her. Somebody should test the proportion of killer sperm to baby making sperm before and after indications of the woman cheating.
Secondly, if a woman cheats with a guy because the Bull is more studly, that's the worst case scenario. A guy who gets off on it has just turned the biggest lemon into a big glass of lemonade.
With all that, I would bet the guys who are into it suffered emotional trauma as kids.
Women cheat so guys have evolved methods to deal with it biologically. There's two types of sperm. One type is for reaching the egg, the other is for killing other guys' sperm. After a couple has been apart the man produces more killer sperm. Also, why do so many couples have sex after arguing? Because the chances are higher that one or both strayed recently. Many people say that the post argument sex is the hottest. The prospect of the woman cheating should turn the guy on so he can get some killer sperm in her. Somebody should test the proportion of killer sperm to baby making sperm before and after indications of the woman cheating.
Secondly, if a woman cheats with a guy because the Bull is more studly, that's the worst case scenario. A guy who gets off on it has just turned the biggest lemon into a big glass of lemonade.
With all that, I would bet the guys who are into it suffered emotional trauma as kids.
For the women I know who did this, it's not about cuckolding the man. It's about the man making her a whore who fucks strangers (or select friends) at his command.
I've discussed this with women but never went through with it. The general idea was, though, that they liked the idea of being farmed out to other men (or women) as if they had no choice in the matter. The subservience of it all turned them on. They liked thinking they were sexual animals with no agency and their guy could snap his fingers and say "fuck my friend now!" and they'd have to do it.
Why someone would marry such a woman is the magic question. I had a hard enough time having them come over and not feel like I had to disinfect the entire place. It made for some hot phone sex, though, especially the time I told one that behind the "secret door" there wouldn't be a man but a dog. I kid you not.
I've discussed this with women but never went through with it. The general idea was, though, that they liked the idea of being farmed out to other men (or women) as if they had no choice in the matter. The subservience of it all turned them on. They liked thinking they were sexual animals with no agency and their guy could snap his fingers and say "fuck my friend now!" and they'd have to do it.
Why someone would marry such a woman is the magic question. I had a hard enough time having them come over and not feel like I had to disinfect the entire place. It made for some hot phone sex, though, especially the time I told one that behind the "secret door" there wouldn't be a man but a dog. I kid you not.
Quote: (04-28-2013 06:17 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
For the women I know who did this, it's not about cuckolding the man. It's about the man making her a whore who fucks strangers (or select friends) at his command.
I've discussed this with women but never went through with it. The general idea was, though, that they liked the idea of being farmed out to other men (or women) as if they had no choice in the matter. The subservience of it all turned them on. They liked thinking they were sexual animals with no agency and their guy could snap his fingers and say "fuck my friend now!" and they'd have to do it.
Why someone would marry such a woman is the magic question. I had a hard enough time having them come over and not feel like I had to disinfect the entire place. It made for some hot phone sex, though, especially the time I told one that behind the "secret door" there wouldn't be a man but a dog. I kid you not.
Good point. Is it cuckold if you pimp her out to another man?
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One of the big game blogs—probably Roissy—touched on this at some point. The explanation it offered was that sexual arousal in cuckolds is in fact evolutionarily adaptive.
99 out of 100 men who discover their wives or girlfriends cheating don't do so in the context of an orchestrated cuckold fantasy. Instead, they just have the misfortune to walk in on the bitch taking it from another dude. Fucking the girl ASAP gives the cuckold's sperm a chance to edge out the interloper's and get to the chick's egg first. Stalking off in disgust, while perhaps better for the poor guy's dignity, isn't gonna net him many offspring.
As for why the fantasy is most common among schlubby losers, I guess that's because they're the ones most apt to get cheated on, which gives them occasion to realize how "hot" that situation is. And making the "other man" the most exaggerated caricature of masculinity possible (younger, swoll, massive wang) would heighten the competitive feelings that get the cuckold so horned up.
It is interesting how many guys cop to finding Red Pill literature in the wake of some girl cheating on them. That's sorta an alternative to the cuckold fantasy: Instead of fucking the same girl, you learn how to find & fuck a bunch of younger, hotter chicks.
Give it 10,000 years, and a sudden urge to read Roissy and Roosh will become the dominant behavioral phenotype in response to learning that your girlfriend has been hoin' around.
99 out of 100 men who discover their wives or girlfriends cheating don't do so in the context of an orchestrated cuckold fantasy. Instead, they just have the misfortune to walk in on the bitch taking it from another dude. Fucking the girl ASAP gives the cuckold's sperm a chance to edge out the interloper's and get to the chick's egg first. Stalking off in disgust, while perhaps better for the poor guy's dignity, isn't gonna net him many offspring.
As for why the fantasy is most common among schlubby losers, I guess that's because they're the ones most apt to get cheated on, which gives them occasion to realize how "hot" that situation is. And making the "other man" the most exaggerated caricature of masculinity possible (younger, swoll, massive wang) would heighten the competitive feelings that get the cuckold so horned up.
It is interesting how many guys cop to finding Red Pill literature in the wake of some girl cheating on them. That's sorta an alternative to the cuckold fantasy: Instead of fucking the same girl, you learn how to find & fuck a bunch of younger, hotter chicks.
Give it 10,000 years, and a sudden urge to read Roissy and Roosh will become the dominant behavioral phenotype in response to learning that your girlfriend has been hoin' around.
I didn't follow through, but I was talking with a guy who wanted me to bang his girl. His rationale was that it made him feel like his girl was a pornstar and that seeing her with other dudes was like watching porn and validated that she was highly attractive. It makes some sense. I've used porn while maintaining a gf.
men in to this could also be latent homosexuals - getting off watching hetereo men having sex
Quote: (04-28-2013 05:01 AM)JimNortonFan Wrote:
Two issues:
Women cheat so guys have evolved methods to deal with it biologically. There's two types of sperm. One type is for reaching the egg, the other is for killing other guys' sperm. After a couple has been apart the man produces more killer sperm. Also, why do so many couples have sex after arguing? Because the chances are higher that one or both strayed recently. Many people say that the post argument sex is the hottest. The prospect of the woman cheating should turn the guy on so he can get some killer sperm in her. Somebody should test the proportion of killer sperm to baby making sperm before and after indications of the woman cheating.
It's not so much "killer sperm" as it is getting the head of you cock in there to "scoop out" other guys sperm and replace it with yours.
Basically the head your penis, with it bottom rounded edges, acts like a plow, raking up the other guy's jizz. It's also one of the reasons we instinctlvely don't want to come right away. We need to clean up that cervix nice an pretty before we dump OUR load.
The human penis as a semen displacement device
http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/p...3/abstract
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Inanimate models were used to assess the possibility that certain features of the human penis evolved to displace semen left by other males in the female reproductive tract. Displacement of artificial semen in simulated vaginas varied as a function of glans/coronal ridge morphology, semen viscosity, and depth of thrusting. Results obtained by modifying an artificial penis suggest that the coronal ridge is an important morphological feature mediating semen displacement. Consistent with the view of the human penis as a semen displacement device, two surveys of college students showed that sexual intercourse often involved deeper and more vigorous penile thrusting following periods of separation or in response to allegations of female infidelity.
I believe it is referred to as Candaulism. Salvador Dali was famous for this via his Russian wife Gala.
I read something about this, part of it has been covered before. Another part comes from men who feel they can't satisfy their wife/woman, and feel that them getting some pleasure from another man is better than nothing. It does come from the humiliation that they believe they can't satisfy their wife.
If you google the subject there are some good answers out there.
If you google the subject there are some good answers out there.
Quote: (04-28-2013 09:49 AM)jmoney29 Wrote:
I didn't follow through, but I was talking with a guy who wanted me to bang his girl. His rationale was that it made him feel like his girl was a pornstar and that seeing her with other dudes was like watching porn and validated that she was highly attractive.
This is a good point. It also explains why so many cuckolds refer to their wife as a "hotwife", even if she is in reality quite far from attractive (old, fat, etc). Validation is a key element here-these guys want to feel like they still have a prize.
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I made this thread because I was recently approached by a couple in their 40's to be their 'bull'. The wife isn't terrible at all considering her mileage, and the guy is your typical beta schalub. Balding, paunch belly, wardrobe dreadfully behind the times (if it was at all stylish at one point).
Normally, I try to conduct myself with at least a modicum of honor, however foolishly idealistic that may be, and I honestly felt that this is something I shouldn't, throwing my lot into the Bernake machine and giving some out-dated carnival ride a final few minutes of more Alpha.
But at this point I'm so jaded and disenfranchised with my life, society, humanity, my job I figure why not; I'll bone some dude's wife, cum inside her, and then make him her out still dripping with my seed - by his request
Normally, I try to conduct myself with at least a modicum of honor, however foolishly idealistic that may be, and I honestly felt that this is something I shouldn't, throwing my lot into the Bernake machine and giving some out-dated carnival ride a final few minutes of more Alpha.
But at this point I'm so jaded and disenfranchised with my life, society, humanity, my job I figure why not; I'll bone some dude's wife, cum inside her, and then make him her out still dripping with my seed - by his request
I've been the bull for 3 couples during my lifetime. Each couple had a different dynamic. The first was a couple with a very dominant alpha male. When he said jump, she ask, how hi? The second couple was more balanced sort of 50/50 as to who was in charge. The third couple, the wife was the dominant one. If she didn't want it, it wasn't happening. But there was one thing that was common in all of these couples. The husband got turned on by me finding their women sexy. You can put different spins on it, but the bottom line was they wanted their woman to be desired by another man.
A few years ago when I had just joined the game, I caught a girl texting her boyfriend (and baby daddy) multiple times throughout a date her and I went on during a night-time stroll through a park. This was before I knew what cuckolding even was, and didn't give it much thought besides thinking "wow, she must be a bitch to him." Of course that date and the one after that ended with me pounding the shit out of her in her room, once even with the baby there sleeping. During pillow talk, she mentioned they had an "open relationship" and brought up the fact that he and her had MFM threesomes in the past, one of which he arranged and surprised her with one day. I sort of had a sudden moment of clarity one day when I looked back and realized this guy was a stereotypical cuckold, she was probably texting him and getting him hard over the game I was spitting during the date, and I was very likely their bull and didn't even know it. Who knows how far it went... maybe after I left one of those two nights, he came over afterwards and cleaned up my mess.
I use to share my hoes with my bros (I was the best friend a guy could have) But I never shared girls I actually dated and cared about. In highschool I told one of my girlfriends (who I really didnt care much about) That if she really loved me she would fuck my friend. So at a party I banged her behind the bar in my friends basement, grabbed my 40oz of Old English and went out on the porch dapped up my friend and told him he was up. He went inside and banged her. I think I listened to Snoop Doggs "Aint no fun if the homies cant have none" to much when I was a teenager, it was my favorite song for a long time.
Running train on hoes was one of my favorite past times.. specially hoes you didnt care about.. there was no pressure.
Fast forward to my LTR who I am still pretty much dating even though we are in different countries.... It literally makes me sickish to my stomach to think of some alpha bull banging her. Even though we both read Sex 3.0 (a excellent book my a member on the forum, about open relationships) and we are both kind of on board with knowing there a chance we may bang other people (a really good chance on me doing so![[Image: wink.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Its still hard to think of someone banging m GF of like 10 years, even though I got more ass on the side of my LTR then all my single friends were getting combined. Now the other side of this is after I broke up with her and went to Asia a few years she started dating a scruffy happy hippy beta.... and it didnt really bother me that much that he was banging her. I knew he was not a threat or fucking her like I did. A year later she waned to start dating me again to which I happily obliged. I have no idea what the future holds for us. I will always love her very much, she is NOTHING like the girls I read about on here or the girls I see my friends date or end up marrying. Honestly she is the perfect woman, I'm not exaggerating.... Even with the perfect woman I still crave casual sex with girls who dont hold a candle to her. Its a disease that may make me sad lonely and banging Filipino or Colombian hookers one day with not much to show for my life other then great story's of great sexual conquest.... But I knew the risk of what this lifestyle may cost me when I decided to pursue it full on.
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Running train on hoes was one of my favorite past times.. specially hoes you didnt care about.. there was no pressure.
Fast forward to my LTR who I am still pretty much dating even though we are in different countries.... It literally makes me sickish to my stomach to think of some alpha bull banging her. Even though we both read Sex 3.0 (a excellent book my a member on the forum, about open relationships) and we are both kind of on board with knowing there a chance we may bang other people (a really good chance on me doing so
Its still hard to think of someone banging m GF of like 10 years, even though I got more ass on the side of my LTR then all my single friends were getting combined. Now the other side of this is after I broke up with her and went to Asia a few years she started dating a scruffy happy hippy beta.... and it didnt really bother me that much that he was banging her. I knew he was not a threat or fucking her like I did. A year later she waned to start dating me again to which I happily obliged. I have no idea what the future holds for us. I will always love her very much, she is NOTHING like the girls I read about on here or the girls I see my friends date or end up marrying. Honestly she is the perfect woman, I'm not exaggerating.... Even with the perfect woman I still crave casual sex with girls who dont hold a candle to her. Its a disease that may make me sad lonely and banging Filipino or Colombian hookers one day with not much to show for my life other then great story's of great sexual conquest.... But I knew the risk of what this lifestyle may cost me when I decided to pursue it full on.Play on Playas
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Maybe it is the whole Sex At Dawn shit, wherby back in the day gangbanging was the norm. Cant say I buy into that theory though.
Don't debate me.
It may also be some sort of expression of masochism. That is, the guy watching someone else bang his wife might enjoy the feeling of being humiliated. I don't know. But the psychologists say that such impulses do exist.
Recently another married woman. Late twenties, two kids, had started flirting with me. Sending me nude pictures and talking about getting together.
At first I thought she was trying to cheat on her husband..but they way she send messages...I saw through the storyline and realized her husband is in on it.. He wants to catch her having sex with another guy and she leaves him clues about it.
I think what was said above is right. The man wants to know that that his wife is attracting to other men.
I Don't know what he takes it to the next level and wants other guys to bang..and he doesn't get anything though
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At first I thought she was trying to cheat on her husband..but they way she send messages...I saw through the storyline and realized her husband is in on it.. He wants to catch her having sex with another guy and she leaves him clues about it.
I think what was said above is right. The man wants to know that that his wife is attracting to other men.
I Don't know what he takes it to the next level and wants other guys to bang..and he doesn't get anything though
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I know I've dated girls briefly, nothing serious, and I banged the broad with other fellas.
There is a particular turn on about knowing that girl is such a slut that she'll take a team, and in my experience, women love the attention, it makes them feel sexy as fuck. I think it's a control thing with very different meanings depending on who is engaging in the situation.
In other words, if you are the one pushing for it to happen, but controlling the situation while you're railing her with other dudes, it's a control thing knowing she'll do whatever you want her to do. With other men who enjoy having an alpha bull or whatever bang their broad, they take pleasure in knowing they have no control, and that's what turns them on.
There is a particular turn on about knowing that girl is such a slut that she'll take a team, and in my experience, women love the attention, it makes them feel sexy as fuck. I think it's a control thing with very different meanings depending on who is engaging in the situation.
In other words, if you are the one pushing for it to happen, but controlling the situation while you're railing her with other dudes, it's a control thing knowing she'll do whatever you want her to do. With other men who enjoy having an alpha bull or whatever bang their broad, they take pleasure in knowing they have no control, and that's what turns them on.
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I know a guy that married the first girl he banged. I haven't gotten any updates on him in quite a while so who knows if they're still together.
Anyway this girl he banged...HIS friend banged her first in the backseat of a car, and then this guy banged her second, sloppy seconds. Then they started dating and he put a ring on it.
I know it's not anything to do with cuckold, but goddamn.
Anyway this girl he banged...HIS friend banged her first in the backseat of a car, and then this guy banged her second, sloppy seconds. Then they started dating and he put a ring on it.
I know it's not anything to do with cuckold, but goddamn.
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