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02-16-2011, 01:55 PM
Quote: (02-14-2011 09:49 AM)Moma Wrote:
Quote: (02-14-2011 03:05 AM)jfree Wrote:
Quote: (02-13-2011 03:04 PM)MiXX Wrote:
So, what does this all mean? I have a hard time trusting any woman who tells me "she loves me".......yeah, I banged many of those too!
Mixx
You're right Mixx. I came to a similar conclusion about women as you did. But, yet, I have a wife that I love who wonderfully rai.
-As a businessman, I have been screwed over by various men and women in both large and small ways. Yet, I keep hiring employees and trust that they will use their talents and effort to increase business and profit (which typically benefits me most). Has it always happened? No. But, overall, the trust was warranted. I definitely could not have a successful set of businesses without trust.
-As a "lothario", I know that I can get STDs from oral(always unprotected for me both giving and receiving) and unprotected vaginal sex. I also have problems with some girls who turn crazy on me despite helping them understand exactly the ins on outs of the affair and screening them well. Yet, I still have sex with continuing numbers of new girls and trust that some will turn into great affairs for both me and them.
Which brings me back to "why trust women". For me, it was not about trusting that they stay sexually faithful. I don't. What I do choose to trust is that I was VERY lucky to find someone who naturally loves children and enjoys being with them almost all the time, who is intelligent (statistically smart women raise smart kids not to mention I truly enjoy her company and input), and is very beautiful and good at maintaining herself (good for my ego). But best of all, she has been so far fine with me having affairs as long as it is in another country.
So will it last, I trust so... but who the hell really knows, she can go crazy one day and drown all of the kids, or I can die or go crazy (nothing else would matter at that point), or a comet/asteroid can wipe humanity off the face of the earth. But, one thing I do know, I definitely would have no chance at having and raising beautiful smart kids if I didn't select a mate and opt to trust.
In purely male<->female dynamics, some women are mothers, some are daughters, some are mistresses, and the rest are fucks. Horses for courses.
The importance of knowing game and not just being game is that one will understand why they were able to achieve a certain result.
There are a lot of guys who are very good at slaying a lot of women but cannot explain the process of what they are doing.
This is my problem. I want to fix it ASAP.
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08-09-2011, 07:22 PM
I say go for the bang. If she is LTR you wont get it. Still, the following date it will come up much much easier. It is like roller over minutes on your phone, what you invested on the first date will pay off on the second.
The only thing I didnt understand of your post is how the hell after two real dates you ended up on a gathering with plenty of other people on your third "date". I mean, that was a battle you shouldnt have fought. Dont meet a girl on a third date, if you havent banged her, when there are other friends of her around. Stay clear of that stuff. You are setting yourself up for failure.
Was it a choice of yours? a random encounter? or you had to do it as she wasnt responding to direct invitation for a 3rd date and you went to avoid losing momentum?
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10-02-2011, 08:39 PM
I have yet to bang.
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10-03-2011, 01:50 PM
Quote: (10-03-2011 01:42 PM)Moma Wrote:
Quote: (10-02-2011 08:39 PM)drymarro Wrote:
I have yet to bang.
You are da virgin?
ya. been going out alot to college parties and even just setting up dates with girls i meet during the day and having no luck. already a soph in college.
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10-03-2011, 02:11 PM
whats breath and odor game? I'm 5'11", white, I'd say like just a tad notch above average. I've only been able to go on like a few.. yeah I did but they said they're "not that kind of girl". girls flake on me alot. at parties I can't get past hooking up.. guess I don't push maybe? but it's usually the girl saying she has to go find her friends or something.. I also commute so sometimes I say I gotta go .. (last train is at 1:27 so I can't afford to stay with the girl in hopes I will be able to sleep with her cuz then if it doesn't work out I'd be left in a city pretty much homeless.) I've been commuting since day 1 in college and I'm involved in a club but don't get success from there either.
facebook doesn't help me because I don't have good pictures and when I do have good pictures the dam bitches that took them don't fucking put it up -_-
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10-03-2011, 02:23 PM
If you can hit a home-run, should you settle for just a first base hit?
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10-03-2011, 02:41 PM
Quote: (10-03-2011 02:38 PM)Moma Wrote:
Quote: (10-03-2011 02:11 PM)drymarro Wrote:
whats breath and odor game? I'm 5'11", white, I'd say like just a tad notch above average. I've only been able to go on like a few.. yeah I did but they said they're "not that kind of girl". girls flake on me alot. at parties I can't get past hooking up.. guess I don't push maybe? but it's usually the girl saying she has to go find her friends or something.. I also commute so sometimes I say I gotta go .. (last train is at 1:27 so I can't afford to stay with the girl in hopes I will be able to sleep with her cuz then if it doesn't work out I'd be left in a city pretty much homeless.) I've been commuting since day 1 in college and I'm involved in a club but don't get success from there either.
facebook doesn't help me because I don't have good pictures and when I do have good pictures the dam bitches that took them don't fucking put it up -_-
Breath and odour game means does your breath smell nice? Does your body smell nice or do you have body odour? Make sure those are taken care of.
Next, keep some kind of lure at the place you plan to bang these lizards. Is your place good enough to take lizards down or do you try to go to their place?
Can you run a dialogue of what you say to these reptiles? Do you even get to kiss?
If you like, put a new thread in the newbies section and I'll try and coach you through.
ok i'll just put a thread in newbie forum... and i have good body odour but I think my breath smells bad like 1 out of 5 times. I don't have a place for lizards to go back to. So my only option is their place.
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10-03-2011, 04:06 PM
I dont go for it on the first date normally. You probably arent going to get it and it will turn her off for the future. Many women Ive fucked first date ended up being one night stands, when I wanted more.
The exceptions would be if shes grabbing my cock or we are only in the same place for a short time, like on vacation, so theres no point in waiting.
Even if you can, it might ruin your chances next time. If you don't care, make out for at least half an hour in a private place, gauge reaction, rub her tits, gauge reaction, suck her tits, gauge reaction, put her hands on your dick or touch her snatch, gauge reaction, take her clothes off, gauge reaction and go from there. If at any point she tells you or acts like she doesnt want it, back off to previous level and gauge reaction. Or just ask if she wants to have sex. Much better to leave blue balled and spank it at home then the alternatives.
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10-03-2011, 07:56 PM
To contradict my previous advice, I think we might get to bang more girls ONCE if we always try to close on the first date. however if you don't I think you'll get more sex over time from the girls that we do close. The way I rationalize it now is if I want to actually date a girl wait three dates, if I just want to fuck her then try to fuck her right away. Thats what women have told me that they think that guys do and what they do too.
Most of my girlfriends Ive fucked or gotten head from within three dates but not on the first date.
To the original poster, once she starts playing games delete her number and make her approach you.
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10-03-2011, 07:59 PM
"the 3 date principal for getting the lay, has now moved to 2 dates."
I disagree based on my experience and talking to girls. If you push hard you'll get dumped more often. Yes girls want to fuck but they are scared of being labeled a slut, easy or feeling guilty.
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10-03-2011, 08:05 PM
Quote: (10-03-2011 07:59 PM)mrhappy Wrote:
"the 3 date principal for getting the lay, has now moved to 2 dates."
I disagree based on my experience and talking to girls. If you push hard you'll get dumped more often. Yes girls want to fuck but they are scared of being labeled a slut, easy or feeling guilty.
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10-03-2011, 08:47 PM
Is it really necessary to post four times in a row? You could have combined the last three into one bro.
Anyway, I agree... 2 dates is a better staple in 2011.
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