Quote: (03-08-2013 09:46 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:
Quote: (03-08-2013 09:31 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
Porn is a real problem that most guy's don't understand, the reason it is accessible and free is to keep us un-productive.
Ask yourself, what did you do before the internet? What did you do before porn was online?
I looked at some magazines when I was like 13.
Everything has its costs and benefits. By this measure, you could ban sex without condoms, alcohol, fatty foods, soda, etc...
I think that the people who are so quick to allow the state to ban things are short-sighted.
Freedom comes with costs, not one is denying that. However, I would rather people have a choice in the matter than have the government dictate to them their choices.
American's sat by with all these distractions and let their Government morph into the biggest most freedom denying
OPEN Government on earth. When I am in D.C. I can't even fart without hitting some NGO or leecher establishment that only exists to serve the mega mess of the US Govt.
Its like a cartoon hearing American's talk about freedom. The guns is all you have as the Gov't have as your Gov't has you all by the balls on everything else - and it was all on your peoples watch. To busy worrying about race and religion and other bullshit distraction as the Gov't hammered down controls, real civil freedom's, while destroying class mobility.
A Government is only a mirror projection of Society as a whole and Government has no legitimacy unless Society grants it that. Over reaching Governments are bred out of Society's complacency and deterioration. Government can vanish in a matter of days when Society collectively tells it to go fuck its self. Parliaments ad systems of legislative authority erode when the public is not buying it. The broken and overreaching American Gov't is a symbol of the symptoms present in society as whole. Their is no scape ghost with this, American's have to take the onus on themselves to realize this and collectively try to bring a more free American that is caste in their true image.
That is why I am saying its Male Hamster B.S. to try to defend this. Where where you when the Govt chipped away at everything else? Digital porn only came into the fold in the late 90's-early-00's. Men functioned great without it, we we're more productive back without it, the idea that it is our right to use this digital porn is crap. The Gov't line is a herring because you Men sat on your hands and did not fight when the Gov't introduces things like the Patriot Act, CIPA, PIPA, and scores of other Civil liberty restrictions.
You can see clear as day that it is nothing more then a soft weapon as a means of control against men.
Ask yourself how the industry forever expands despite the fact their is zero profit to be made. Aside from the monopoly a few studios have on the industry its pennies for everybody else yet it continues to expand rapidly.
When Kodak had a monopoly on a un-profitable industry (Film) it went out of bushiness.
Why is Porn still flourishing.
Think.
Quote: (03-08-2013 11:14 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:
Quote: (03-08-2013 10:32 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
Quote: (03-08-2013 09:46 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:
Quote: (03-08-2013 09:31 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
Porn is a real problem that most guy's don't understand, the reason it is accessible and free is to keep us un-productive.
Ask yourself, what did you do before the internet? What did you do before porn was online?
I looked at some magazines when I was like 13.
Everything has its costs and benefits. By this measure, you could ban sex without condoms, alcohol, fatty foods, soda, etc...
I think that the people who are so quick to allow the state to ban things are short-sighted.
Freedom comes with costs, not one is denying that. However, I would rather people have a choice in the matter than have the government dictate to them their choices.
That is nice in theory, but government does what they want no matter what the people say.
Think about it for a second, would the banning of porn really effect your life that much.
Nice in theory?
The government can not just do what ever it wants or else it will eventually be toppled (see the Arab spring).
Think about this for a second: would banning rated R movies have a big effect on your life? You can still do what you want. You can still live your life as you see fit. That is the argument that you are making. Essentially, you are pro-censorship.
Again the horse has left the barn a long time ago - Bigger issues are on the grill.
Its like trying to catch kernels of grain when you need to fix the leaver for the chute.
The Government will come after people in their basement over Copyright infringements on movies and CD's but does nothing to curve the copyright infringement on Porn. It is a legal and licensed form of media no different then a regular motion picture, or music recording yet the Government sits on its hand as it is proliferated at neckbreak speeds.
And yes with the Arab spring example it can show in ways how society removes legitimacy from The State very quickly. It does not take much hat all for it to be accomplished once people remove the Power of the State.
What I am saying is that you can't blame the Government for shit as it is only a external representation of you and every other citizen. People will blame the institutions and power bodies
THEY created to relieve blame from themselves.