[spanish_courage]

(01-11-2013 02:57 PM)GreenGranted Wrote:  

In my opinion, this site is vastly underrated. In my opinion it is in the same league as King Solomon II. It taught me all the important concepts for the first time, and it was via this site that I stumbled upon Roosh and Roissy. It is dead now.

http://www.solvemygirlproblems.com

has anybody read his book? there are a lot of comments fascinated about his book

[Hazaer]

(12-24-2012 05:55 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:10 AM)michelin Wrote:  

Anybody read Richard La Ruina? seems to have good reviews...

well known in London for being a con artist.

my 2 are krauser for practical 'outer game' and Rollo for 'inner game'
nexxtlevelup is great for other advice like health and working out
masculine style is brilliant if you're shit at wearing clothes

Watched a clip of this guy talking about night game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unuqF4uklE
He talks about forcing IOIs from women from a distance and then going up to them and asking 'How have you been?' to induce familiarity and blow away the cock blocking.
Is he really faking it or does his stuff really work?

[Sonsowey]

I'd put Krauser up there.

His posts where he shares and analyzes long online exchanges with girls helped my text game a lot.

[Suits]

(10-11-2015 09:21 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 05:55 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:10 AM)michelin Wrote:  

Anybody read Richard La Ruina? seems to have good reviews...

well known in London for being a con artist.

Watched a clip of this guy talking about night game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unuqF4uklE
He talks about forcing IOIs from women from a distance and then going up to them and asking 'How have you been?' to induce familiarity and blow away the cock blocking.
Is he really faking it or does his stuff really work?

Read this...

(10-11-2015 09:31 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I'd put Krauser up there.

His posts where he shares and analyzes long online exchanges with girls helped my text game a lot.

...and this.

[Dantes]

I put Krauser's style of Daygame up there. Anyone who is serious about learning Daygame should study his work.

[Easy_C]

(12-21-2012 07:29 PM)Humanist Wrote:  

I consider Roosh and Heartiste to be the Lennon and McCartney of the manosphere (which one is Lennon and which is McCartney is a matter for debate).

I've browsed some of the other blogs of this nature and nobody else seems to come close. Roosh and Heartiste are simply in a league of their own. Rational Male is pretty strong, perhaps even on their level. But is there anyone of this level that I am missing?

Honestly, I don't view Roosh and Heartiste as being at the top of the game. They're niche and I get value mostly for their political writings which are fairly astute.

The reason I feel this way is that my definitions of "Alpha" and "good game" is completely off the scale of what most guys here know. keep in mind that I'm someone who has spent a LOT of time hanging around bikers, Special Forces guys, guys who run escort agencies, and the like. What most of you call "alpha" would last about a fifteen minutes around those types of guys. Same for "game". I know guys who get as many girls in a weekend as Roosh has said a good player will get in a year.

That doesn't mean you all are wrong. It's just a very different world than the ones I'm familiar with.

In terms of game there are some personalities who, in their heyday, blew anyone from the "PUA" community out of the water. Player Supreme's old podcast shows are gold, as were some of the old poster's on the Pimp's network.

Disclaimer is that most of that stuff is NOT for amatuers. Nerds will just get themselves in trouble trying to use techniques from that level of the game. It's basically the same as trying to teach black belt techniques to someone who just walked in the dojo.

[shayneToxic]

I'm convinced Heartiste is of the old-school PUA days. His "jerkboy charisma" platform is really no different than David DeAngelo's "cocky funny" routine.

[rpg]

(10-11-2015 10:23 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 07:29 PM)Humanist Wrote:  

I consider Roosh and Heartiste to be the Lennon and McCartney of the manosphere (which one is Lennon and which is McCartney is a matter for debate).

I've browsed some of the other blogs of this nature and nobody else seems to come close. Roosh and Heartiste are simply in a league of their own. Rational Male is pretty strong, perhaps even on their level. But is there anyone of this level that I am missing?

Honestly, I don't view Roosh and Heartiste as being at the top of the game. They're niche and I get value mostly for their political writings which are fairly astute.

The reason I feel this way is that my definitions of "Alpha" and "good game" is completely off the scale of what most guys here know. keep in mind that I'm someone who has spent a LOT of time hanging around bikers, Special Forces guys, guys who run escort agencies, and the like. What most of you call "alpha" would last about a fifteen minutes around those types of guys. Same for "game". I know guys who get as many girls in a weekend as Roosh has said a good player will get in a year.

That doesn't mean you all are wrong. It's just a very different world than the ones I'm familiar with.

In terms of game there are some personalities who, in their heyday, blew anyone from the "PUA" community out of the water. Player Supreme's old podcast shows are gold, as were some of the old poster's on the Pimp's network.

Disclaimer is that most of that stuff is NOT for amatuers. Nerds will just get themselves in trouble trying to use techniques from that level of the game. It's basically the same as trying to teach black belt techniques to someone who just walked in the dojo.

It is apples and oranges. Roosh and Heartiste are reaching out to guys with life saving medicine. The application and results are life long. There are probably more successful players, obviously. But, to take knowledge, condense it, and convey it takes a different kind of talent.
These guys have taught me things about myself I didnt know. They also taught me things about my environment that I was not seeing clearly. And they taught me shit about women that is right in front of my face that I couldnt see until now.
I raise a glass to these guys.

[Hazaer]

(10-11-2015 09:41 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 09:21 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 05:55 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:10 AM)michelin Wrote:  

Anybody read Richard La Ruina? seems to have good reviews...

well known in London for being a con artist.

Watched a clip of this guy talking about night game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unuqF4uklE
He talks about forcing IOIs from women from a distance and then going up to them and asking 'How have you been?' to induce familiarity and blow away the cock blocking.
Is he really faking it or does his stuff really work?

Read this...

(10-11-2015 09:31 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I'd put Krauser up there.

His posts where he shares and analyzes long online exchanges with girls helped my text game a lot.

...and this.

Hi there, so as to clear the air, I am not promoting this guy called Richard in any way, shape or form. Was just looking to get critique on his approach to night game. How can that be done in accordance to the rules of this forum? PS: I am new to this forum so do excuse my ignorance.

[Sonsowey]

(10-11-2015 09:41 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 09:31 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I'd put Krauser up there.

His posts where he shares and analyzes long online exchanges with girls helped my text game a lot.

...and this.

Krauser's website helped me immeasurably. It's a treasure trove. The guy has shared a ton of personal info, chats, in-field footage, and shown incredible growth over the years since he started writing.

His website is gold. He came here to talk shit and crossed a line Roosh has for the forum, but his site is wonderful.

[The Father]

I can honestly, sincerely say - NO ONE comes close to Roosh, in so very many ways.

[The Father]

(01-11-2013 02:55 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(01-11-2013 02:39 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I am not a fan of Heartiste, the old Roissy stuff was a bit better, but I always thought it was way over hyped.

I know this is a very 'newbie' question, but what is the difference between the two. I thought it was the same person?

It is the same...he changed the name of the blog at some point. Not sure why.

[Suits]

(10-11-2015 10:56 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 09:41 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 09:21 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 05:55 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 09:10 AM)michelin Wrote:  

Anybody read Richard La Ruina? seems to have good reviews...

well known in London for being a con artist.

Watched a clip of this guy talking about night game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unuqF4uklE
He talks about forcing IOIs from women from a distance and then going up to them and asking 'How have you been?' to induce familiarity and blow away the cock blocking.
Is he really faking it or does his stuff really work?

Read this...

Hi there, so as to clear the air, I am not promoting this guy called Richard in any way, shape or form. Was just looking to get critique on his approach to night game. How can that be done in accordance to the rules of this forum? PS: I am new to this forum so do excuse my ignorance.

I'm not a moderator here, so it's not for me to say when rules are or are not broken.

However, when a new member with a low post count who hasn't met any other forum members brings up a very old thread to ask about an obscure PUA instructor, it is very suspicious.

Your question gives of the impression of covert self-promotion.

It's exactly the sort of question I'd ask if I wanted to get people talking about me and watching my videos, but didn't want to give away the game by appearing too positive.

If you aren't "this guy called Richard," by all means carry on. However, given your posts so far, I'd be willing to bet money that you are in fact, "this guy called Richard."

[Hazaer]

(10-11-2015 11:43 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 10:56 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 09:41 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 09:21 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(12-24-2012 05:55 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

well known in London for being a con artist.

Watched a clip of this guy talking about night game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unuqF4uklE
He talks about forcing IOIs from women from a distance and then going up to them and asking 'How have you been?' to induce familiarity and blow away the cock blocking.
Is he really faking it or does his stuff really work?

Read this...

Hi there, so as to clear the air, I am not promoting this guy called Richard in any way, shape or form. Was just looking to get critique on his approach to night game. How can that be done in accordance to the rules of this forum? PS: I am new to this forum so do excuse my ignorance.

I'm not a moderator here, so it's not for me to say when rules are or are not broken.

However, when a new member with a low post count who hasn't met any other forum members brings up a very old thread to ask about an obscure PUA instructor, it is very suspicious.

Your question gives of the impression of covert self-promotion.

It's exactly the sort of question I'd ask if I wanted to get people talking about me and watching my videos, but didn't want to give away the game by appearing too positive.

If you aren't "this guy called Richard," by all means carry on. However, given your posts so far, I'd be willing to bet money that you are in fact, "this guy called Richard."

Suits, I assure you I am not Richard nor do I have any shared interests with him. I am just a newbie to game and came across this video when looking through some information in approaching. You can refer to the Travel and Newbie forum for my background and experience so far in game. However, since the opinions of Richard as far as game is concerned seems to be negative or dodgy at best, I think it might be in my best interest to stop pursuing his 'teachings'.

[Easy_C]

(10-11-2015 03:15 PM)rpg Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 10:23 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 07:29 PM)Humanist Wrote:  

I consider Roosh and Heartiste to be the Lennon and McCartney of the manosphere (which one is Lennon and which is McCartney is a matter for debate).

I've browsed some of the other blogs of this nature and nobody else seems to come close. Roosh and Heartiste are simply in a league of their own. Rational Male is pretty strong, perhaps even on their level. But is there anyone of this level that I am missing?

Honestly, I don't view Roosh and Heartiste as being at the top of the game. They're niche and I get value mostly for their political writings which are fairly astute.

The reason I feel this way is that my definitions of "Alpha" and "good game" is completely off the scale of what most guys here know. keep in mind that I'm someone who has spent a LOT of time hanging around bikers, Special Forces guys, guys who run escort agencies, and the like. What most of you call "alpha" would last about a fifteen minutes around those types of guys. Same for "game". I know guys who get as many girls in a weekend as Roosh has said a good player will get in a year.

That doesn't mean you all are wrong. It's just a very different world than the ones I'm familiar with.

In terms of game there are some personalities who, in their heyday, blew anyone from the "PUA" community out of the water. Player Supreme's old podcast shows are gold, as were some of the old poster's on the Pimp's network.

Disclaimer is that most of that stuff is NOT for amatuers. Nerds will just get themselves in trouble trying to use techniques from that level of the game. It's basically the same as trying to teach black belt techniques to someone who just walked in the dojo.

It is apples and oranges. Roosh and Heartiste are reaching out to guys with life saving medicine. The application and results are life long. There are probably more successful players, obviously. But, to take knowledge, condense it, and convey it takes a different kind of talent.
These guys have taught me things about myself I didnt know. They also taught me things about my environment that I was not seeing clearly. And they taught me shit about women that is right in front of my face that I couldnt see until now.
I raise a glass to these guys.

That's why I lump them in differently. Roosh and Heartiste are, moreso than any of their other skills, exceptionally skilled and entertaining writers which makes them good gateways. It's notable that the guys I'm talking about are very good at game but mediocre writers at best

[LeBeau]

(10-11-2015 10:23 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

The reason I feel this way is that my definitions of "Alpha" and "good game" is completely off the scale of what most guys here know. keep in mind that I'm someone who has spent a LOT of time hanging around bikers, Special Forces guys, guys who run escort agencies, and the like. What most of you call "alpha" would last about a fifteen minutes around those types of guys. Same for "game". I know guys who get as many girls in a weekend as Roosh has said a good player will get in a year.

Disclaimer is that most of that stuff is NOT for amatuers. Nerds will just get themselves in trouble trying to use techniques from that level of the game. It's basically the same as trying to teach black belt techniques to someone who just walked in the dojo.

You should drop a data sheet or thread and expand on the above.

I'm sure lots of guys would be interested in further breakdowns and stories on these techniques and situations.

[Hotwheels]

(10-11-2015 10:23 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 07:29 PM)Humanist Wrote:  

I consider Roosh and Heartiste to be the Lennon and McCartney of the manosphere (which one is Lennon and which is McCartney is a matter for debate).

I've browsed some of the other blogs of this nature and nobody else seems to come close. Roosh and Heartiste are simply in a league of their own. Rational Male is pretty strong, perhaps even on their level. But is there anyone of this level that I am missing?

Honestly, I don't view Roosh and Heartiste as being at the top of the game. They're niche and I get value mostly for their political writings which are fairly astute.

The reason I feel this way is that my definitions of "Alpha" and "good game" is completely off the scale of what most guys here know. keep in mind that I'm someone who has spent a LOT of time hanging around bikers, Special Forces guys, guys who run escort agencies, and the like. What most of you call "alpha" would last about a fifteen minutes around those types of guys. Same for "game". I know guys who get as many girls in a weekend as Roosh has said a good player will get in a year.

That doesn't mean you all are wrong. It's just a very different world than the ones I'm familiar with.

In terms of game there are some personalities who, in their heyday, blew anyone from the "PUA" community out of the water. Player Supreme's old podcast shows are gold, as were some of the old poster's on the Pimp's network.

Disclaimer is that most of that stuff is NOT for amatuers. Nerds will just get themselves in trouble trying to use techniques from that level of the game. It's basically the same as trying to teach black belt techniques to someone who just walked in the dojo.

^^This.

I am not denigrating Roosh, Rooisy, or anyone else when I say this. Frankly, I'd be surprised if they did not agree that they are not the pinnacle. If anything, Roosh seems very humble about what he has accomplished in changing his life. And yes, he is very good at putting his thoughts into words and has accomplished a lot. Not the least of which is getting out of a job he apparently didn't care much for and creating a location independent lifestyle. Any man that does as much deserves respect. The fact he can communicate what one needs to do makes him not only unusual, but a man that any other man can respect.

Easy C is talking about the type of game a very few guys here can, and do, pull off. I won't name names as I think those that get it know who I am talking about.

There are a few here where there is no thought in the process. Only do. For those it is difficult to convey to the masses how to do it.

[amity]

Just a small note to say that Heartiste is back in the game again on Twitter!
Should you have trouble finding him, shoot me a PM and I'll point you in the right direction.

[Easy_C]

Sorry, I was gone for awhile and the thread fell off my radar.

I'm hesitent to make a datasheet for a few reasons:

First, it's very person specific. What works for you isn't the same as what works for me. if you want I can speak about the various attributes I noticed.

Second in most of those communities it's a strong taboo to specifically discuss the goings on with those not acquainted with the lifestyle. For example I'm fine talking about biker culture, but it would be considered disrespectful to be talking about specific stories with specific clubs by name.

Finally I don't want anyone getting ideas. The last thing I'd want is someone going out to meet people and getting their assess kicked because they think it's a good idea to try to be "alpha" around these types or even that they actually are even remotely "alpha" compared to them.