[Lights]

Re: Justin Wayne.

Saw this guy in Brooklyn by coincidence, he's got skills, and he approaches 8+s. I would think a bootcamp with him would be helpful being that he has really good cold approach skills and has an actual framework with steps e.g. the domino effect or whatever.

As far as making money in the pickup industry, that is a different story, he's got to do what he's got to do to market those skills, right, from a business perspective, two totally different things. He is kind of spammy, but you kind of have to be to make some money. Just my two cents.

No affiliation to him whatsoever.

[Giovonny]

(11-25-2013 12:52 PM)Lights Wrote:  

Re: Justin Wayne.

the domino effect.

Would you please explain the "domino effect"..

Thanks

[bojangles]

(11-25-2013 12:39 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(12-28-2012 09:08 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

Tom is pretty good, I've enjoyed some of the vids he's posted.

Janka is a con, sent an email out saying he'd pay $500 for great testimonials.

For $500 I'll do a 2000 word testimonial for your bootcamps haha

fuck off haha

[Pinocchio]

was with yad this weekend. pretty sick watching him in real life.

[Lights]

(11-25-2013 04:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 12:52 PM)Lights Wrote:  

Re: Justin Wayne.

the domino effect.

Would you please explain the "domino effect"..

Thanks

Yes, it's basically hitting landmarks of sexual and romantic compliance until you get the bang. De-emphasis on getting a number.

Example:

Approach.
Friendly hug.
Instant date.
More sexual hug.
Kiss.
Romance.
Then get the number so it will not flake.
Preferebly SNL.


It is a cold street approach model that highlights venue change, romance, and sexual escalation.

[Petrosius]

here is another guy that is changing into day game...

what do u think about aaron sleazy books?

[Pinocchio]

Double post

[Frank]

(11-26-2013 09:50 AM)Pinocchio Wrote:  

was with yad this weekend. pretty sick watching him in real life.

Is his "Excuse me, can I tell you something really quick? It's a lil' cheeky...I just saw you, and I think you look really nice. You have a very XYZ style." line something he uses only in the videos and when coaching? If yes, it'd make sense, seeing as it's something very simple for people just starting out to learn.

Or does he always open like that?

I prefer Steve Jabba's style.

[Giovonny]

(01-22-2014 01:34 PM)Frank Wrote:  

I prefer Steve Jabba's style.

What is Steve Jabba's style?

How does it differ form Yad's style?

Thanks

[Frank]

(01-22-2014 01:40 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-22-2014 01:34 PM)Frank Wrote:  

I prefer Steve Jabba's style.

What is Steve Jabba's style?

How does it differ form Yad's style?

Thanks

Jabba's delivery seems more natural to me. If you look close enough, what they do is pretty similar.

At any rate, not hating on Yad or anything. Clearly what he's doing works for him.

[Hazaer]

What would be some good daygame spots for those living in the suburbs near a commuter uni apart from the grocery store?

Assume that the uni is dead even during the day as there are no cafeterias or any places to congregate. People just go back home after classes.

Thanks for your suggestions.

[therealpoder]

Go to the mall. The mall is to day game like bars and clubs are for night game.

Not all areas are great for day game. Day game is best in the downtown areas of densely populated cities where people are walking around.

The suburbs aren't good because things tend to be spread out and people go in their cars after buying whatever they need.

If you are interested in dating more, I'd move to the city or at least go there more often. You'll find more young single people than in the suburbs where many people are married and are starting families.

[WestIndianArchie]

@Hazaer

There isn't sandwich shop or coffee place nearby? (If not that's a major business opportunity)

What about the gym?

Outside of that you might need to get gimmicky.

WIA

[Vaun]

I started day gaming in the burbs in the 90's. Lets run down where people have to go in the 'burbs;

Any type of shopping, and I mean anything.. food, clothing, farmers market, shoe store, real estate showings, etc
Sporting events. they happen every week.
Hospitals
Community Events; parades, craft fairs,
Organized events; this can be anything really
Charity Events; they happen every week, anywhere you are
Church, practically any night of the week
The Gym; of course but I dont shit where I eat
Restaurants; easy, but harder approaches unless you like waitresses, who tend to be train wrecks.

You dont need to be in Manhattan, Berlin or London to daygame.

Look at your town at a basic level. How does it function? Where do people go, etc?

If anything, this can get you out of your house and prevent the basement dwelling, neckbeardistization effect of small town life as a single man. Get out into your community. Take an active role in your town. You will see more women then you know what to do with.

[Vinny]

I visited Prague for 3 days in July. And did some daygaming near Palladium mall.

By chance I met Nick Krauser daygaming there too. I approached him (no homo) and he was quite down to earth so we daygamed together for couple of hours. The guy is the real deal and has his own style of game that is extremely direct and structured. Gave me few valuable tips.
I would definitely advise his stuff for learning daygame.

It is too bad there was some argument resulting with him being banned from RVF. I think it is a loss for a community.

[Hazaer]

(08-12-2016 09:15 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@Hazaer

There isn't sandwich shop or coffee place nearby? (If not that's a major business opportunity)

What about the gym?

Outside of that you might need to get gimmicky.

WIA

Yeah, theres a uni cafe but I tend not to buy the overpriced coffees and food there. So, I am not sure if just sitting there when not buying anything is a good idea. its not crowded most of the time because of the commuter culture as well.

I do calisthenic stuff so I dont go to the gym.

One more idea is the parks in the city but I am not sure if girls go there alone. Also what would the approach be without raising the guard of the cat and appearing casual?

I was thinking of the public library but the approach would be a challenge esp with the quiet area restrictions and I am not sure if I can approach more than once.

Some light could be shed on the above 2 areas.

[Hazaer]

Any type of shopping, and I mean anything.. food, clothing, farmers market, shoe store, real estate showings, etc - All out in the city only the grocery stores and the bare essentials are in the suburbs for me.

Sporting events. they happen every week - GOt to check this out but chicks here are gonna be rooting for their bfs
Hospitals - In the city again.
Community Events; parades, craft fairs - Once or twice a yr affair but good opportunities
Organized events; this can be anything really
Charity Events; they happen every week, anywhere you are - Again gotta look for this.
Church, practically any night of the week - Am not in a particularly religious church going community or even country actually
The Gym; of course but I dont shit where I eat
Restaurants; easy, but harder approaches unless you like waitresses, who tend to be train wrecks. - Agree it is harder but worth a try when I am going out with mates.

You dont need to be in Manhattan, Berlin or London to daygame.

Look at your town at a basic level. How does it function? Where do people go, etc? - At the moment its mostly just students living in the burbs near the uni, grocery gaming is what I do. Trying to get into their social networks but that would be social game

If anything, this can get you out of your house and prevent the basement dwelling, neckbeardistization effect of small town life as a single man. Get out into your community. Take an active role in your town. You will see more women then you know what to do with. - Thinking of moving to the city but gotta deal with more rent and travelling time to uni and would be meeting more post uni professional women than uni birds.

[Freebird Flying]

(08-28-2012 04:05 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  

Gio - great post, summed up my thoughts exactly. I'm early 30s but look mid 20s and plan to keep it that way. Nightgame is not my friend with regards to antiaging.

University campuses is the secret weapon of all daygamers - the holy grail.

Girls in their prime (18-23), doing some sort of degree (I can't talk to hairdressers/waiters/maids, we're just not on the same socioeconomic wavelength), often with a boring beta boyfriend they've had since they were 14 years old (at least here in Spain).

Now as I mentioned before, i'm an analytical motherf***** so I have a breakdown of the gender and age ratios on all the local university courses. Needless to say, I only frequent departments that have a 70:30 ratio in my favour!

For punters like Basil who don't want to be running around all day looking for targets, find a daygame choke point such as come benches at the entrance to a popular mall, as you can then do a Roosh and camp there, waiting for targets to pass you by, at which point you holler out to them and open.

I'm really looking forward to trying out day game on some college campuses when I go to Thailand. I'm just contemplating, how I can actually have a legitimate reason to be on the college campus consistently. If I was in the u.s., I guess I could use a library as my excuse or visiting a friend. Any recommendations?

[Easy_C]

(01-22-2014 01:34 PM)Frank Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 09:50 AM)Pinocchio Wrote:  

was with yad this weekend. pretty sick watching him in real life.

Is his "Excuse me, can I tell you something really quick? It's a lil' cheeky...I just saw you, and I think you look really nice. You have a very XYZ style." line something he uses only in the videos and when coaching? If yes, it'd make sense, seeing as it's something very simple for people just starting out to learn.

Or does he always open like that?

I prefer Steve Jabba's style.

Ho chasing prime right here.


If you're good looking then knock yourself out. For all the rest of us it's a whole lot of wasted energy and unnecessary rejection to run up on girls hitting on them.

ALWAYS look for body language first, then run up and just talk to them like you would a dude. The way their lizard brain reacts is far more important than your choice of "opener"(barring anything weird you say), and you don't need to actually talk to them to figure out what the lizard brain is telling them.

[Easy_C]

(08-12-2016 11:34 PM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  

I'm really looking forward to trying out day game on some college campuses when I go to Thailand. I'm just contemplating, how I can actually have a legitimate reason to be on the college campus consistently. If I was in the u.s., I guess I could use a library as my excuse or visiting a friend. Any recommendations?

Sign up for a certificate program. Double wammy, you both get something that can provide some career mobility and you get to hang out on campus. If you don't have anything in mind just do something along the lines of business. Knowing basic business ideas like how to read accounting information and build a process chart is invaluable if you ever plan on being income independent.

[RagnarLothbrok]

(08-12-2016 11:34 PM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 04:05 AM)BigAlexBoss Wrote:  

Gio - great post, summed up my thoughts exactly. I'm early 30s but look mid 20s and plan to keep it that way. Nightgame is not my friend with regards to antiaging.

University campuses is the secret weapon of all daygamers - the holy grail.

Girls in their prime (18-23), doing some sort of degree (I can't talk to hairdressers/waiters/maids, we're just not on the same socioeconomic wavelength), often with a boring beta boyfriend they've had since they were 14 years old (at least here in Spain).

Now as I mentioned before, i'm an analytical motherf***** so I have a breakdown of the gender and age ratios on all the local university courses. Needless to say, I only frequent departments that have a 70:30 ratio in my favour!

For punters like Basil who don't want to be running around all day looking for targets, find a daygame choke point such as come benches at the entrance to a popular mall, as you can then do a Roosh and camp there, waiting for targets to pass you by, at which point you holler out to them and open.

I'm really looking forward to trying out day game on some college campuses when I go to Thailand. I'm just contemplating, how I can actually have a legitimate reason to be on the college campus consistently. If I was in the u.s., I guess I could use a library as my excuse or visiting a friend. Any recommendations?

Gym. Go to Chulalongkorn University and if somebody asks what you are doing there, tell them that you don't have classes today and just wanted to hit up the gym. Actually, you could really go to the gym, as nobody there gives a shit if you really study there or not (at least in the first month of the semester) and the gym is not only free but also one of the best I have seen so far in Bangkok.

[Giovonny]

(08-12-2016 09:00 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

the university is dead

A "dead" university is still better than most other places.

Why?

DENSITY!

At the university, you have hundreds, if not thousands of potential targets... The potential of this, alone, makes it a worthwhile option..

With commuter schools, you have to be more of a "sniper" rather than a spam approacher, you have to move quickly throughout the campus and scan for targets effectively, you have to be good in the parking lot, sidewalks, and bus stops, you have to walk the school on different days and times.. Commuter schools are not easy but they still offer tons of potential if you are crafty!

And, IF THERE IS A UNIVERSITY NEAR BY THAN YOU NEED TO BE GAMING THE STUDENTS VIA DATING APPS AND SOCIAL MEDIA! THIS MIGHT BE YOUR BEST OPTION BUT IT WILL REQUIRE HIGH QUALITY PICTURES, PROFILES, MESSAGES, TEXTS, DATE PLANS, ETC. AGAIN, THIS ALLOWS YOU ACCESS TO THOUSANDS OF POTENTIAL LOVERS

And, you should continuously be improving the EFFICIENCY of your real world approaches -- Learning where the best places are? When are the best times? How to be more appealing to females while out in public? How to approach without drawing attention? Improving body language, vibe, vocal tones, and conversational skills, etc.

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In real life, you have to be ready to day game, EVERY TIME YOU LEAVE YOUR HOME!

Walking to your car.
Walking through the parking lot.
Driving and you see a girl walking. Do you pull over and go talk to her? Do you talk to her from the car?
Public transportation.
On the street.
Bus/train/trolley stops
Uber pool & Lyft line
In front of WalMart
Mall Parking lot.
Frozen yougart shop.
McDonalds.
Grocery store
coffee shop
events
etc.

If you want pussy, YOU GOTTA BE READY TO TALK AT ANY MOMENT!

(08-12-2016 11:00 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Some light could be shed on the above 2 areas.

You asked about the park and the library.. Yes, occasionally, there will be cute girls in the park and at the library, BUT... not often enough that you should make a special trip... Just be ready if you happen to visit the park or the library.. Again, if you want pussy, you must be ready to talk at any moment!

Look at this thread for more on this philosophy:

El Mechs DayGame Hack

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Also, think less about "approaching" women, and more about simply talking to women.

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(08-12-2016 11:34 PM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  

how I can actually have a legitimate reason to be on the college campus consistently.

A "legitimate reason" ?

Because YOU WANT TO!

Isn't that a good enough reason!?!!

Just tell the girls the truth, you are a tourist and you want to visit the campus.

Maybe, you are thinking about going to school there? Maybe, you are thinking about moving to Thailand? Maybe, you want to use the gym or library? Maybe, they have a public garden or meditation area that you like to visit?

The truth is often the best strategy with these types of things.

It's easier than lying.

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Day Game is not for the meek or faint of heart! Big Balls are required!

[Hazaer]

I would like to get some ideas about daygaming while reading a book. Suggestions about possible openers and venues would be welcome. Coffee shops wouldnt be ideal for me, they are outrageously expensive where I am.

Thanks all.

[Hazaer]

(09-16-2016 10:58 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

I would like to get some ideas about daygaming while reading a book. Suggestions about possible openers and venues would be welcome. Coffee shops wouldnt be ideal for me, they are outrageously expensive where I am.

Thanks all.

bump..

I realize that the girls who normally come to the library are high school aged normally with their girl or boyfriends.

Other options include the park but I am not sure if it has a lot of foot traffic.

There can be some seats outside the main mall of the city bit I am not sure if that would too busy a place for people to even sit down.

Some openers in these places would be good. Imagine, she is sitting down in the park/library at another seat a bit far away from you and you need to walk over to her. She is working in her laptop/playing with her phone. Is there any other openers you would use other than the 'Is it a good laptop/phone'? Also, can the guy sit down?

For coffee lovers the cafe seems to be the best place but for those not into it some other suggestions would be appreciated.

[serpico]

At any rate, not hating on Yad or anything. Clearly what he's doing works for him.
[/quote]

Does it though? In terms of approaching women and being sassy and charming verbally and coming of like a Gay Best Friend, yes, but i'll wager he gets friendzoned almost constantly. He seems like a nice, funny guy, but for him to be banging anything over solid 6s on the reg i'd be amazed