[thegmanifesto]

(06-05-2012 09:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(06-05-2012 09:09 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

50 girls in 3 years does seem low for a coach, but I agree with OGNorCal. 50 notches from day game of girls who are much younger than you and 7+s is good in my book. Especially since Krauser seems to be a bit older and not great looking.

A "coach" should be judged by the success of his "athletes."

Freddie Roach was an OK boxer, but he's be forgotten were it not for his success as a coach.

Greg Jackson and Caesar Gracie didn't do anything as fighters...But they can produce world beaters.

If a guy is a sexless wonder but gets other guys laid, then he may be a bad player but a good coach.

If a guy is getting 100 lays a year but can't translate that to the troops, then he's an excellent player and a poor coach.

You are 100% right.

That is the main thing, if Krasuer is helping guys get better than they should go to him for sure.

[Kish]

(06-05-2012 09:09 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Got to remember, the best players in any sport do not necessarily make the best coaches.

Ha! I've noticed that in the NBA. Usually it's the mediocre players who become great coaches. While the all time great players SUCK at coaching and are terrible GMs.

[Blunt]

(06-06-2012 09:14 AM)rakishness Wrote:  

(06-05-2012 09:09 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Got to remember, the best players in any sport do not necessarily make the best coaches.

Ha! I've noticed that in the NBA. Usually it's the mediocre players who become great coaches. While the all time great players SUCK at coaching and are terrible GMs.

Larry Byrd

[Samseau]

Thing is, 16 notches per year is astronomical compared to the average guy. That's PLENTY of pussy. I would not be upset with myself at all with 16 notches.


Plus, has anyone considered Krauser to be a PUA who enjoys relationships that last several months at a time?


Notch count isn't indicative of much; it doesn't show a players skill, it doesn't show his ability to teach game to others, and it doesn't show if the guy is a loser or not.


Notch count is just one stat to evaluate out of many.

[Timoteo]

(06-06-2012 12:31 PM)Blunt Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 09:14 AM)rakishness Wrote:  

(06-05-2012 09:09 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

Got to remember, the best players in any sport do not necessarily make the best coaches.

Ha! I've noticed that in the NBA. Usually it's the mediocre players who become great coaches. While the all time great players SUCK at coaching and are terrible GMs.

Larry Byrd

Jerry West was also a great player that became a great executive. He was the architect of the Laker title teams of the 80s, and the Kobe/Shaq teams also. The thing with most great players is that they see the game differently than the less talented. While the less-talented have to see the game more analytically to find a way to beat you, great players just DO. Certain things are just easier for them, and it's hard for them to understand why other can't do the same things. Bird was highly skilled, without being a great athlete, so he also saw the game the way less talented players did. Many great players can't coach because they lack patience, and can't deal with personalities. They themselves were catered to, and it's hard for them to cater to mere mortals...HA HA!

[Lothario]

I was going to post something useful from Kruser's Interview that most people on the forum can employ in their Game at some point BUT Jesus Guys calm down, lets not derail every F.....ing thread with the pointless bickering about G and some other RVF Menber.

Anways Hate Krauser or Love him , just like someone stated earlier even you can use parts of Mystery's Game, Take this from krausers Game and add to your arsenal.

In this Interview krauser shows a lot of Maturity and one can obviously see the depth of his understanding.

It's an hour long Interview but if you can watch from 18- 35 min , it has soemthing of value

Nuggets

"you can attract a lot of women if you are more invested in yourself and your opinion of yourself then you are in others opinion of you"

( I think Krauser quoted this from the author of Models Mark manson)

" Women are attracted to the Dark Triad of Personalities "

(we already know this but drives the message in)

The Dark triad being

1. Nacissistic Personality

2. Psychosocial Personality

3. Machiavellian Personality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

Happy Hunting Folks........

[Giovonny]

(06-07-2012 02:01 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

" Women are attracted to the Dark Triad of Personalities "

(we already know this but drives the message in)

The Dark triad being

1. Nacissistic Personality

2. Psychosocial Personality

3. Machiavellian Personality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

I agree but I think that this whole "Dark Triad" thing is a dark and negative way of looking at it. It makes it seem like we have to be evil to get girls. This is not true.

I think we can just say the same thing in other words like.

A man who believes in himself and his mission.

A man who understands his value.

A man free of self doubt

A man who doesn't give a fuck what others think.

It doesn't always have to be this dark, evil thing.

[Kish]

(06-07-2012 02:34 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 02:01 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

" Women are attracted to the Dark Triad of Personalities "

(we already know this but drives the message in)

The Dark triad being

1. Nacissistic Personality

2. Psychosocial Personality

3. Machiavellian Personality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

I agree but I think that this whole "Dark Triad" thing is a dark and negative way of looking at it. It makes it seem like we have to be evil to get girls. This is not true.

I think we can just say the same thing in other words like.

A man who believes in himself and his mission.

A man who understands his value.

A man free of self doubt

A man who doesn't give a fuck what others think.

It doesn't always have to be this dark, evil thing.

You don't have to be "evil" to get women. Just having those personality "disorders" will help you get laid. Think about it.

If you're a narcissist you probably won't have ANY approach anxiety. If you have a delusional sense of your self worth. You'd approach anywhere and everywhere with no remorse.

And if you have a Machiavellian personality you'd be a MASTER at manipulating womens emotions. A key to getting laid.

[Kish]

(06-07-2012 03:16 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 02:34 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 02:01 PM)Lothario Wrote:  

" Women are attracted to the Dark Triad of Personalities "

(we already know this but drives the message in)

The Dark triad being

1. Nacissistic Personality

2. Psychosocial Personality

3. Machiavellian Personality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

I agree but I think that this whole "Dark Triad" thing is a dark and negative way of looking at it. It makes it seem like we have to be evil to get girls. This is not true.

I think we can just say the same thing in other words like.

A man who believes in himself and his mission.

A man who understands his value.

A man free of self doubt

A man who doesn't give a fuck what others think.

It doesn't always have to be this dark, evil thing.

You don't have to be "evil" to get women. But having those personality "disorders" will help you get laid. Think about it.

If you're a narcissist you probably won't have ANY approach anxiety. If you have a delusional sense of your self worth. You'd approach anywhere and everywhere with no remorse.

And if you have a Machiavellian personality you'd be a MASTER at manipulating womens emotions. A key to getting laid.

[Lothario]

Gio like always can put it in better words and rakishness is saying the same thing.....

If we can project parts of the Triad that I am sure all of us have in our personalities it can help One's Game.

Happy Hunting ......

[soup]

It can be argued that he's not actually being direct. Stopping a girl and telling her that you think she looks amazing is different from stopping a girl and telling her "I want to fuck you."

However, if direct is about making your intentions clear, then almost anytime you start a conversation with a random girl in a crowded club, it can be seen as direct because everyone knows what's going on.

In that light, the only true indirect game is something like elderly chat where it really isn't clear that you are talking to her because you want to bang her.

In a way, most of game, at least for me, is both sides just putting on airs. I don't think that I've ever convinced a girl that wasn't attracted to me from the get-go to bang me. I've never seen a girl suddenly get wet by some DHV that I've thrown out. If anything, she was probably feigning dis-interest, and then DHV just gives her an excuse to show more of how she's felt the whole time. The only game that I've run is not fucking it up game, which includes dressing well, having good body language, and saying and doing all the right things to assure her that I'm not a chump (having logisitics down, and good kino included).

Also, there are times when DHVs can actually work against you. If you make yourself seem to high-level or special, then some girls might not put-out an SNL because they don't want to seem like slutty to you.

For me, game is not about working for a girls affection. It's about allowing both your animal side and hers to meet, thus unlocking the potential bang that already exists.

[Kish]

(06-10-2012 07:39 PM)soup Wrote:  

For me, game is not about working for a girls affection. It's about allowing both your animal side and hers to meet, thus unlocking the potential bang that already exists.

[Samseau]

Quote:

In a way, most of game, at least for me, is both sides just putting on airs. I don't think that I've ever convinced a girl that wasn't attracted to me from the get-go to bang me. I've never seen a girl suddenly get wet by some DHV that I've thrown out. If anything, she was probably feigning dis-interest, and then DHV just gives her an excuse to show more of how she's felt the whole time. The only game that I've run is not fucking it up game, which includes dressing well, having good body language, and saying and doing all the right things to assure her that I'm not a chump (having logisitics down, and good kino included).

That's exactly what it is. Putting on airs is really what game is all about - hitting on her but trying to make her think, "How much does he actually like me?"


But that doesn't mean game is "tricks" or "superficiality" - to the girl, it all feels real.

[Zep]

Neil Skywalker

Quote:

Don't hate on the guy just because you're jealous he's banging East European girls and you aren't. Jealousy is a bad habit. Get rid of it.

Hey Neil. I dig your blog. You walk the talk, posting pics and all that, but, I'm going to differ with you here.

This was an excellent interview. But, it is not game, it's psychology. I'm wondering if we should start making a distinction of a sort between someone who delivers game, or, analysis.

I'm stating this because I really enjoyed Krauser's interview.
Then, I checked out the video of him 'gaming' the Polish girl posted in this thread. I wrote down half the lines. Spent 2 hours on it...and realized, his game is average at best, and that the forum members like Wanka were right after all.

"what do you do?" "where are you from" "so what are Warsaw girls like"

I was amazed that the girl actually stayed there for 4 whole minutes. Sorry dude, Wanka was right, in North America chicks like that (meaning a good 3 point difference in looks, meaning hers higher obviously ) would have said after the opener....."awwww, thanks a lot, that makes my day....ok, I really do have to leave, but thank you sooo much"

IMO, it's important that newbies do not get distracted by good analysts, and confuse them with men with good game.

[RawGod]

(06-14-2012 06:23 AM)Zep Wrote:  

I was amazed that the girl actually stayed there for 4 whole minutes. Sorry dude, Wanka was right, in North America chicks like that (meaning a good 3 point difference in looks, meaning hers higher obviously )

Guys are rated for vibe/value, not looks. Krauser has a masculine face, confident, etc. He's got net worth and used to have a career in finance in London, married a model even before he took the red pill etc. I'm just mentioning these things because they feed into his vibe. He's a solid 8 in the way he comes across, even if he's not an underwear model.

[michelin]

I've been watching this London real interview with Krauser over and over again. It's really good stuff, every newbie should watch it because Krauser explains a lot of stuff in simple language.

Also, London real is also a great podcast.

[Matt3B]

(04-07-2013 04:07 PM)michelin Wrote:  

I've been watching this London real interview with Krauser over and over again. It's really good stuff, every newbie should watch it because Krauser explains a lot of stuff in simple language.

Also, London real is also a great podcast.

Krauser's the man. Check his latest podcast out.

[bojangles]

(04-07-2013 04:07 PM)michelin Wrote:  

I've been watching this London real interview with Krauser over and over again. It's really good stuff, every newbie should watch it because Krauser explains a lot of stuff in simple language.

Also, London real is also a great podcast.

Know both Krauser and one of the fellas who does the London Real podcasts used to come train at my MMA gym once a week.

Surprised by some of the negative remarks over this thread. In my opinion he's one of the best daygamers out there

[michelin]

(04-08-2013 05:10 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 04:07 PM)michelin Wrote:  

I've been watching this London real interview with Krauser over and over again. It's really good stuff, every newbie should watch it because Krauser explains a lot of stuff in simple language.

Also, London real is also a great podcast.

Know both Krauser and one of the fellas who does the London Real podcasts used to come train at my MMA gym once a week.

Surprised by some of the negative remarks over this thread. In my opinion he's one of the best daygamers out there

I agree, even though I'm not (yet) into direct daygame myself. His blog deserves a visit from time to time.

[Menace]

Guys who think that it's what Krauser says that matters are really missing the big picture or just do not understand male/female interaction very well. Most of the "game" is in the body language and sub-communication...it is not in literally what he says. Techniques like assumption stacks, etc. are just ways to generate interesting conversation from nothing. I mean you are just stopping a random girl and trying to create a positive interaction with her from nothing at all: it's basically magic. Some adjustment will need to be made for NA girls, but it's not likely to be major. We have guys on this forum who do pretty much what he does and have been successful.

[RonnieB]

Love the Krauser interview, he seems like a pretty cool guy. I like how he's not full of himself and can recognise his own weaknesses. He's also like your average guy looks wise - hopefully this shows the 'how does looks/height/cocksize affect game' people that they should stop looking for excuses.

[the virgin chronicles]

(06-14-2012 06:23 AM)Zep Wrote:  

his game is average at best, and that the forum members like Wanka were right after all.

"what do you do?" "where are you from" "so what are Warsaw girls like"

I was amazed that the girl actually stayed there for 4 whole minutes.

Super easy to watch an infield video and nitpick on the man's game. Those are completely normal questions to ask a woman you're having a conversation with, assuming she likes your approach and is willing to talk. Were you expecting him to pull out David DeAngelo lines or something?What does it tell you about game, that a guy who games like that is getting laid?

Personally I think the guy is the real deal. A lot of the things people are saying about him in the thread are rubbish. Okay, he had a bad day doing direct daygame in the US--and you're going to characterize his skill based on that? Imagine if we lost our respect for Roosh because he wrote a blog post about having a bad night out in a new country.

Also low notch count is because the man's got pale princesses waiting on him in every corner of eastern europe, and he is re-using them. Just saying.

If anyone is interested, read his blog--he has entries from his first days out doing direct daygame in London when he totally sucked.

[Akula]

(04-07-2013 04:35 PM)MattC Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 04:07 PM)michelin Wrote:  

I've been watching this London real interview with Krauser over and over again. It's really good stuff, every newbie should watch it because Krauser explains a lot of stuff in simple language.

Also, London real is also a great podcast.

Krauser's the man. Check his latest podcast out.

I really got a lot out of that video on numerous levels. Not just as a fairly beta guy in many ways trying to build my game but also as a bit of a life lesson. I think there's a lot of stuff in that video that would really help a guy who's not getting laid, can't communicate with women very well, doesn't know about red pill etc. As a newer member I kinda want to say 'isn't that what a lot of this is all about'?

I had a brutal 14 hour banking day yesterday, clicked on that video and didn't want to stop watching, made me forget the whole sh*tty day and refocus on building my pipeline.

[MikeCF]

Krauser was one of the rare guys who used to post sex vids rather than the usual, "Look at me, a girl talked to me!" youtube "success videos."

There's no doubting that he's the real deal.

[michelin]

(04-11-2013 01:52 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Krauser was one of the rare guys who used to post sex vids rather than the usual, "Look at me, a girl talked to me!" youtube "success videos."

There's no doubting that he's the real deal.

can we still watch these vids on his site?

For those of you interested, Krauser just participated in a round table on Travel and Game, at Daygame.com:
http://krauserpua.com/2013/04/03/an-inte...ygame-com/ [EDIT: just noticed MattC already posted this link a few days ago]

Interesting stuff on Long game (Krauser) versus Short Game (what Roosh does). Recommend it.