0% of girls will give 80% of fucks.
02-20-2012, 11:17 PM
I was just musing about the Pareto Principle, also known as the 80/20 rule. I think it applies in game as well.
Find the 20 percent.
Find the 20 percent.
Quote: (02-20-2012 11:41 PM)MSW2007 Wrote:
Long before I started learning game on an intentional, intellectual level as we all do here, my father told me that approaching is the critical point of all game.
It's approaching that makes all the difference. Gotta meet the bitches that are down to fuck. If you don't approach enough girls, you won't find the ones that want to fuck you. If you don't approach at all, well...
If it's 20% that are down to lay me, well, I gotta sort through all the bitches that don't. And I will.
Quote: (02-21-2012 06:22 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:
Sorry to bust your bubble, but from our university's data, it's more like 10% of men are sleeping with 20-30% of women. 50% of women are stuck in purely monogamous relationships (answered sleeping with only 1 partner in the previous year in an anonymous survey). The rest are fatties that no man would touch.
Quote: (02-21-2012 06:22 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:
Sorry to bust your bubble, but from our university's data, it's more like 10% of men are sleeping with 20-30% of women. 50% of women are stuck in purely monogamous relationships (answered sleeping with only 1 partner in the previous year in an anonymous survey). The rest are fatties that no man would touch.
Quote: (02-21-2012 09:03 AM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (02-21-2012 06:22 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:
Sorry to bust your bubble, but from our university's data, it's more like 10% of men are sleeping with 20-30% of women. 50% of women are stuck in purely monogamous relationships (answered sleeping with only 1 partner in the previous year in an anonymous survey). The rest are fatties that no man would touch.
Women lie. These survey's mean shit.
I agree with the OP. 20% of the women probably do have the most sex, but they're having it with Alphas.
Then there's the other 80%, of which most date monogamously but still have flings with alphas from time to time.
Case in point:
I just banged a 27 yr old Greek woman this weekend (she had never been in America either). She told me she had been in a relationship for 6 years, and was cheating on her boyfriend with me. She confessed to me that I was her first cheat outside of this relationship. I banged her the same day I met her, raw dog.
This girl has slept with less than ten men for her entire life, and I was one of them.
Another girl I'm currently banging tells me she didn't lose her virginity until 23, because she used to be borderline lesbian, and had only slept with 4 other guys before me.
I've had other experiences like these too. Not all women I bang are promiscuous. Some girls love cock-hopping, but most don't.
So yes, I would agree that 20% of the women give out 80% of the sex, and it's true for men too, with 20% of the men giving out 80% of the sex.
But the men giving out 80% of the sex have access to all the "good girls" - normal betas have to date for a month before getting any, while the sluts who fuck tons of guys fuck lots of alphas and a few betas in-between.
I surmise that men learning game will first cut their teeth on these uber-sluts until their game improves enough to snag the less promiscuous women.
Of course, by the time you're game is good enough that you regularly bang "good girls", you'll realize how little a woman's notch count matters when it comes to seducing them, as all women are the same, and you'll no longer care about this stuff.
Quote: (02-21-2012 09:43 AM)Rurik Wrote:
Quote: (02-21-2012 09:03 AM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (02-21-2012 06:22 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:
Sorry to bust your bubble, but from our university's data, it's more like 10% of men are sleeping with 20-30% of women. 50% of women are stuck in purely monogamous relationships (answered sleeping with only 1 partner in the previous year in an anonymous survey). The rest are fatties that no man would touch.
Women lie. These survey's mean shit.
I agree with the OP. 20% of the women probably do have the most sex, but they're having it with Alphas.
Then there's the other 80%, of which most date monogamously but still have flings with alphas from time to time.
Case in point:
I just banged a 27 yr old Greek woman this weekend (she had never been in America either). She told me she had been in a relationship for 6 years, and was cheating on her boyfriend with me. She confessed to me that I was her first cheat outside of this relationship. I banged her the same day I met her, raw dog.
This girl has slept with less than ten men for her entire life, and I was one of them.
Another girl I'm currently banging tells me she didn't lose her virginity until 23, because she used to be borderline lesbian, and had only slept with 4 other guys before me.
I've had other experiences like these too. Not all women I bang are promiscuous. Some girls love cock-hopping, but most don't.
So yes, I would agree that 20% of the women give out 80% of the sex, and it's true for men too, with 20% of the men giving out 80% of the sex.
But the men giving out 80% of the sex have access to all the "good girls" - normal betas have to date for a month before getting any, while the sluts who fuck tons of guys fuck lots of alphas and a few betas in-between.
I surmise that men learning game will first cut their teeth on these uber-sluts until their game improves enough to snag the less promiscuous women.
Of course, by the time you're game is good enough that you regularly bang "good girls", you'll realize how little a woman's notch count matters when it comes to seducing them, as all women are the same, and you'll no longer care about this stuff.
Good post. Do you think the greek girl was being honest saying you were the first cheat?
Quote: (02-21-2012 11:47 AM)LowerCaseG Wrote:
I was having a month long tryst with a young african lady. I was driving her home one day and in the process of making polite conversation I asked her if she was seeing anybody etc... She starts to tell me about how she has been dating this one guy she "really likes." (Background, 2nd date bang for me, and subsequent bang on all 5 or 6 next meetings) She goes on to say how they have been on 10 or 12 dates and have not slept together yet. I said, "don't you think its a little ironic that you give it up so easily for me who you dont like as much as this other guy who is "special." Her reply:
"Well, most girls want to have sex with somebody on the side while they are looking for Mr. Right."
This statement has stuck with me ever since. This young lady was able to freely admit this due to not being ruined by american culture. But I have to believe this is a very common mentality among the female dating population.
What I take out of this is that if you can eliminate the possibility of a LTR and essentially disarm the woman, she has lost her leverage, and the beta market economy of sex for gifts/higher value lifestlye no longer applies.
Quote: (02-21-2012 11:47 AM)LowerCaseG Wrote:
"Well, most girls want to have sex with somebody on the side while they are looking for Mr. Right."
Quote: (02-21-2012 09:03 AM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (02-21-2012 06:22 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:
Sorry to bust your bubble, but from our university's data, it's more like 10% of men are sleeping with 20-30% of women. 50% of women are stuck in purely monogamous relationships (answered sleeping with only 1 partner in the previous year in an anonymous survey). The rest are fatties that no man would touch.
Women lie. These survey's mean shit.
I agree with the OP. 20% of the women probably do have the most sex, but they're having it with Alphas.
Then there's the other 80%, of which most date monogamously but still have flings with alphas from time to time.
Case in point:
I just banged a 27 yr old Greek woman this weekend (she had never been in America either). She told me she had been in a relationship for 6 years, and was cheating on her boyfriend with me. She confessed to me that I was her first cheat outside of this relationship. I banged her the same day I met her, raw dog.
This girl has slept with less than ten men for her entire life, and I was one of them.
Another girl I'm currently banging tells me she didn't lose her virginity until 23, because she used to be borderline lesbian, and had only slept with 4 other guys before me.
I've had other experiences like these too. Not all women I bang are promiscuous. Some girls love cock-hopping, but most don't.
So yes, I would agree that 20% of the women give out 80% of the sex, and it's true for men too, with 20% of the men giving out 80% of the sex.
But the men giving out 80% of the sex have access to all the "good girls" - normal betas have to date for a month before getting any, while the sluts who fuck tons of guys fuck lots of alphas and a few betas in-between.
I surmise that men learning game will first cut their teeth on these uber-sluts until their game improves enough to snag the less promiscuous women.
Of course, by the time you're game is good enough that you regularly bang "good girls", you'll realize how little a woman's notch count matters when it comes to seducing them, as all women are the same, and you'll no longer care about this stuff.
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the majority of girls don't even frequent the venues (bars, nightclubs, etc) that expose them to players who would try to pick them up
Quote: (02-21-2012 04:57 PM)anewtypedude Wrote:
Quote: (02-21-2012 09:03 AM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (02-21-2012 06:22 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:
Sorry to bust your bubble, but from our university's data, it's more like 10% of men are sleeping with 20-30% of women. 50% of women are stuck in purely monogamous relationships (answered sleeping with only 1 partner in the previous year in an anonymous survey). The rest are fatties that no man would touch.
Women lie. These survey's mean shit.
Lying on an ANONYMOUS survey, Really?
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Personal experience doesn't meant much in light of empirical evidence. For one, when you take the entire population into account, the majority of girls don't even frequent the venues (bars, nightclubs, etc) that expose them to players who would try to pick them up, and when they do, it's almost always with a large group of friends or with the bf.
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The girls that you see out having fun on the weekends ARE NOT the typically girls. The overestimation comes from the fact that when you go out, these are the girls that you see. Our university may not get featured on Girls Gone Wild anytime soon, but I can assume that our student population is still more promiscuous than the general population because they are in an university environment afterall (large school in the US).
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As for Basil, the point is that the majority of girls aren't DTF for beta males.
Quote: (02-23-2012 12:41 PM)kimleebj Wrote:
Great stuff. Susan Walsh believes there is assorted selection, where monogamous couples stick with each other, while promiscuous Players (men and women) hookup among themselves. Alternatively, Basil says that Players hookup with everybody. Under Basil's theory, the average partner of a Player might actually have fewer partners than the average partner of a monogamous person.
Here's an example. Walsh says that sexual partners are like running partners. Slow runners get slow partners, and fast runners get fast partners. But Basil Ransom says it is more like white water rafting or mountain climbing. Beginners don't dare do these activities without an experienced partner. So a few professional guides give tours all day to novices, while novices only go with professional guides.
This is important for strategy. If you believe Walsh then you search for sluts. But if you believe Basil Ransom, then you work on game. There may be a little truth in both, but I'm with Basil.
OKCupid showed that women are all focused on the most attractive men.
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.html/your-l...ne-dating/