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06-13-2012, 08:43 AM
Other than marriage counselors and pet wedding designers, it is perhaps one of the most bullshit professions in all the world. Absolutely no creative skill involved, no added value, no effort. It literally symbolizes everything wrong with both today's economy, entertainment, and women and their preferences at the same time.
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06-13-2012, 08:56 AM
How much would a decent pair of turntables and a mixer set a guy back?
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06-13-2012, 09:18 AM
I see a lot of hate towards DJs. Years back I never really appreciated the skill that a good DJ must possess, and probably would have agreed with most of you. Sure, a lot of modern "DJs" will just sit there with iTunes running a playlist, while sipping at a beer. These days, however, I have mad respect for those that worked their asses off learning to scratch and making a living out of it - there's a lot more to it than meets the eye.
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06-13-2012, 12:24 PM
I don't like dance music but i'm still proud that 3 of those guys are Dutch. number 1, 5 and 14.
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06-13-2012, 01:18 PM
guess what , you can dj with just a laptop these days with a program called ableton live (that's what most modern guys are doing, with a few added machines, that aren't really necessary).
get that (it can be downloaded easily), a solid pair of studio monitoring headphones (for 200 bucks), and a midi keyboard (for about 150 bucks) and you can teach yourself with free tutorials on youtube, produce music, and learn how to create, mix, perform, etc. music live.
The reason the guys at the top made the money is because they have been in the game for longer, and in particular, before the age of downloading, when ACTUAL money was being made.
If skrillex came out before 1999, he would be probably the highest on the list. Skrillex is like the jimi hendrix of electronic dance music right now. He just has a ridiculous over-the-top sound. His breakdowns are just more sick than anyone else's.
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06-13-2012, 01:34 PM
I was there on Fri and Sun. On Fri I was with a bunch of guys who had serious wealth. We flew to EDC in a helicopter to be driven to the table section and left in a limo (wish we did the reverse, the ride home took forever). These guys had the most expensive "table" in the place (Paris Hilton tried to come and hang out, one guy told her to get lost). Most of the people in the table section were dressed a little neon but were mainly just people seeing another event. I just looked into the crowd and thought "Jesus, I'd hate to have to take a piss out there"
Sunday was a different animal. I had a "vip" card but that just really meant a much shorter line right next to the main entrance. I was fucking disgusted with these people, I really felt like I was in a zombie apocalypse (I'm getting sick of that term bu that's what it was like). All of these drugged out degenerates dressed like morons, fucked up out of their minds stumbling along trying to fuck each other over as they cut in and out of line. When I finally made it to the table I was so relieved because I had to literally navigate through a sea of these people once I was inside.
If I could go back to HS I would tell my guidence counselor to fuck off. Being a DJ and pressing "play" must be the easiest fucking job in the world and you get a cult following of minions.
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06-13-2012, 02:13 PM
Quote: (06-13-2012 01:18 PM)Rurik Wrote:
guess what , you can dj with just a laptop these days with a program called ableton live (that's what most modern guys are doing, with a few added machines, that aren't really necessary).
get that (it can be downloaded easily), a solid pair of studio monitoring headphones (for 200 bucks), and a midi keyboard (for about 150 bucks) and you can teach yourself with free tutorials on youtube, produce music, and learn how to create, mix, perform, etc. music live.
The reason the guys at the top made the money is because they have been in the game for longer, and in particular, before the age of downloading, when ACTUAL money was being made.
If skrillex came out before 1999, he would be probably the highest on the list. Skrillex is like the jimi hendrix of electronic dance music right now. He just has a ridiculous over-the-top sound. His breakdowns are just more sick than anyone else's.
This is what I have been attempting to do. I don't have the midi controller yet, and I use FL Studio. It's amazing how girls' faces light up when you tell them "I make electronic music in my free time".
With the technology today, spinning will just get you jobs working weddings, bar/batmitzvahs, private parties, and small scale clubs. You really need to learn composition and production in order to make it now. Everyone and their sister tries their hand at electronic music today.
I am offended that you put Skirllex in the same class as Jimi Hendrix.
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06-13-2012, 02:31 PM
I've always found it weird that DJing in and of itself is a massive DHV.
I know one guy who is a DJ, and he gets top girls all the time from picking up at his 'gigs,' even though he only plays in pubs/nightclubs to about 50-100 people.
The thing is, he is over 30 and has absolutely nothing going for him whatsoever outside of that. If he had any other semi-pro hobby, the fact that he lived with his parents and had no money, car or career wouldn't be worth the novelty for these girls. But because of the nature of DJing (somehow, I have no idea why) he gets ONS's and LTR's at a click of a finger.
And he has no game whatsoever. It is one of those cases which occasionally baffles me.
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06-13-2012, 03:01 PM
A DJ is a center of attention. Women want to be with the man everyone is looking at. Women are attention whores and if a man is getting attention, then that's who the woman wants to be with.
This thread is funny, because guys are hating on other guys who are getting laid.
If only DJs were cool like us.
If only they posted on a game message board...Maybe they should think of a cool handle, upload an avatar, try getting lots of rep points, and have people like his posts. Maybe some day they'd join the Board of Directors or be a True Player.
I love this site and online message boards. But to talk shit, implying guys who pull ass are losers and dorks....Come on. Have some self-awareness.
DJs are having fun and getting laid - which is what most of us are doing or are trying to do.
So why hate on a group of guys who share basically the same goals?
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06-13-2012, 04:31 PM
Quote: (06-13-2012 03:01 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
A DJ is a center of attention. Women want to be with the man everyone is looking at. Women are attention whores and if a man is getting attention, then that's who the woman wants to be with.
This thread is funny, because guys are hating on other guys who are getting laid.
If only DJs were cool like us.
If only they posted on a game message board...Maybe they should think of a cool handle, upload an avatar, try getting lots of rep points, and have people like his posts. Maybe some day they'd join the Board of Directors or be a True Player.
I love this site and online message boards. But to talk shit, implying guys who pull ass are losers and dorks....Come on. Have some self-awareness.
DJs are having fun and getting laid - which is what most of us are doing or are trying to do.
So why hate on a group of guys who share basically the same goals?
This !
I have nothing with the DJ scene but why hate on guys who are living the dream? Guys who travel around the world, have a 5 star luxury life, girls want them and guys want to be them, they make big bank and gain respect.
I don't see anything wrong with that. I mean who the hell here has groupies in the 8 or 9 range waiting for them ? I sure as hell ain't.
I'm not familiar with the scene but i bet the DJ world is just as much cutthroat, survival of the fittest and most talented as any other business. Other wise every one could be doing the same.
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06-13-2012, 07:06 PM
Quote: (06-13-2012 03:01 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
A DJ is a center of attention. Women want to be with the man everyone is looking at. Women are attention whores and if a man is getting attention, then that's who the woman wants to be with.
This thread is funny, because guys are hating on other guys who are getting laid.
If only DJs were cool like us.
If only they posted on a game message board...Maybe they should think of a cool handle, upload an avatar, try getting lots of rep points, and have people like his posts. Maybe some day they'd join the Board of Directors or be a True Player.
I love this site and online message boards. But to talk shit, implying guys who pull ass are losers and dorks....Come on. Have some self-awareness.
DJs are having fun and getting laid - which is what most of us are doing or are trying to do.
So why hate on a group of guys who share basically the same goals?
Seems we have a different perspective on this... I don't see it as hate against DJs so much as against questioning the idiots who think just being a DJ is somehow amazing. I think the generalizations are in reference to the majority, not the top DJs who are showing some serious talent.
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06-13-2012, 11:39 PM
Quote: (06-13-2012 02:21 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
That Celebrity Networth site they are pulling this data from notoriously inflates these numbers.
Precisely. Most people are willing to just trust what they see there, but in reality there a) isn't a lot of verification for these numbers (calculating net worth isn't simple-it is more than income) and b) there is quite a bit of inflation/guesswork.
Take those numbers with a truckload of salt.
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06-14-2012, 01:46 AM
Clubs and dance venues are the arenas where hot girls go to compete for status.
The highest status male (or one of the top few) in a club or music venue is the performer, not the dude spitting pickup lines in their ear.