Quote: (11-21-2014 02:24 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Well I did pretty early this morning (my timing is usually around noon)

There was a bit of banter on our Tinder convo (i just didn't ramp up the banter via text, I went straight for the kill)

Yeah it definitely is a prime time, hence why I jumped the gun, but I know next week is a death sentence when it comes to meeting up.

Wander you're a smart fucker, I didn't even think about reply with "is a stripper too much to handle ?"

I'm definitely going to use that, it fits with my persona.

That's the thing I love about game, you're always learning something !

I got an add on snapchat and found out who it was, turns out it's the chick this post is about. She send me a snap when I ask who it is.

I ended up texting her saying, "i was wondering who added me on snap ! so is a stripper to much for you to handle ??

She said, " you aren't really a stripper."

I said "you never know these days, I just found out a friend of mine is an escort when I thought she is/was an accountant, now about tonight, you in ?"

-Read- No response.

I'm nexting this broad, that's twice I asked her. I'll keep her on snap so she can see what I'm doing (I usually post fun shit) or she can delete me, either way. Charging this one to the game.

In other news I've pipelined 2 dates for tonight, I'm gonna lean towards this kinda wild child tonight who seems more dtf, than this other girl I've sporadically texted for a few months, but still shows signs of IOI.

i don't think you jumped the shark, that seemed organic and made perfect sense to try for a meet up when you did at that point in the conversation.

I am trying to set up dates for this weekend as well, because like you said, the thanksgiving time is a really bad time for dating, people leave town and have family obligations.

Quote: (11-18-2014 05:19 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Quote: (11-18-2014 04:55 PM)robreke Wrote:  

Last week, I met a smoking hot 18 year old. Over text she agreed to coffee this week.

I texted her after the weekend:

Me: how was your weekend
Her: ....no response.
Me on the next day: I take your silence to mean "Rob you tall handsome bad boy, I can't wait to see you again."
Her a few minutes later: Sorry I didn't respond kinda sick.

Tell her "no problem do you want to do something later in the week?"

btw I'm quite a bit older than her though she doesn't know how old.

So...what to text next?

The first response was radio silence.
The second response was a weak and short reply/excuse.

Did you text her "no problem do you want to do something later in the week?"

If not, good, I'd go for a direct setting up of plans, or probe and ask her what her evening schedule looks like this week.

She already struck out twice in my book.

If she gives a short response, doesn't agree with your plans and doesn't counter your plans with another plan - I'd next her.

You can always send out a feeler text, if no response that's strike 3 in my book and she's nexted.

so...texted her later as to what was her schedule and let's go get coffee. She gave no response.

I waited until today, Saturday and sent :
Me: Hey, feeling well again?
Her within one minute: Nah most of my housemates are bad too :/
Me within 5 minutes: Bummer is it the flu?
Her within one minute: I don't know but it sure makes me feel like crap.
Me within 5: Sounds like something I had when I was in Florida this summer. Get well soon!
Her within one minute: Thanks !

that was a few hours ago.

So...I know she's hemming and hawing...but she's back to responding instantly. Who knows if she's full of shit about the illness. I'm chalking up weird behavior to either because she's 18....or she really has been sick.

So...she's responding to texts...but cant get her to meet yet...so there must be some at least lukewarm attraction still there.

My thoughts are either to text her this evening something like: Hey, I'm out at wild wings with some friends...come join us for a coke"

OR.....just waiting til after thanksgiving and trying to re initiate.
Ideas?

Quote: (11-22-2014 05:41 PM)robreke Wrote:  

[quote='kaotic' pid='883386' dateline='1416349157']
[quote='robreke' pid='883373' dateline='1416347749']
Last week, I met a smoking hot 18 year old. Over text she agreed to coffee

[...]

So...she's responding to texts...but cant get her to meet yet...so there must be some at least lukewarm attraction still there.

My thoughts are either to text her this evening something like: Hey, I'm out at wild wings with some friends...come join us for a coke"

OR.....just waiting til after thanksgiving and trying to re initiate.
Ideas?

You're coming off needy, freeze out for a week and restart with let's meet up on Tues at 8. If she doesn't respond or flakes, try in 2 weeks otherwise NEXT!

Set up date with this girl from last week, already made out with her, she knows I'm pretty well off financially, due to her seeing me drive around in my car, etc.

We set up a date last tuesday for this saturday evening. I msg her to confirm on friday and she's saying "i hope so, I'm out of town right now but I think I am back tomorrow, blah blah"

Saturday, I send her a feeler text saying something along the lines of "jesus, so hungover.. how you doing?"

Reads it, doesn't answer. Doesn't even cancel the date on saturday evening. I obviously had already made other plans, but decide to call her out anyway today (sunday afternoon) on it.

Me: what's up flaky mc flake
Her: (thumbs up smiley)
Me: (shit smiley)
Her: ??
Me: confirming a meet up and then not even bother cancelling it... self-respecting men don’t play those early twenties games. take care mademoiselle
her 30mins after:
I reallyreally forgot it, I've was so into organizing this suprise-bday yesterday
You didn't overdue it aswell
I'm sorry for letting u wait
Take care u too

Next? Or should I send the part 2 of the anti flake text?
Well, we can reschedule but you’d have to put forth the effort

I know she's into me but she's also a 8 with a severe "social butterfly" disorder...

Quote: (11-23-2014 11:46 AM)trainwreck Wrote:  

Set up date with this girl from last week, already made out with her, she knows I'm pretty well off financially, due to her seeing me drive around in my car, etc.

We set up a date last tuesday for this saturday evening. I msg her to confirm on friday and she's saying "i hope so, I'm out of town right now but I think I am back tomorrow, blah blah"

Saturday, I send her a feeler text saying something along the lines of "jesus, so hungover.. how you doing?"

Reads it, doesn't answer. Doesn't even cancel the date on saturday evening. I obviously had already made other plans, but decide to call her out anyway today (sunday afternoon) on it.

Me: what's up flaky mc flake
Her: (thumbs up smiley)
Me: (shit smiley)
Her: ??
Me: confirming a meet up and then not even bother cancelling it... self-respecting men don’t play those early twenties games. take care mademoiselle
her 30mins after:
I reallyreally forgot it, I've was so into organizing this suprise-bday yesterday
You didn't overdue it aswell
I'm sorry for letting u wait
Take care u too

Next? Or should I send the part 2 of the anti flake text?
Well, we can reschedule but you’d have to put forth the effort

I know she's into me but she's also a 8 with a severe "social butterfly" disorder...

I'd wait until after thanksgiving and do one of the following:

Nothing for now....radio silence.

On Saturday around mid afternoon text: Hope your thanksgiving was good. When she replies.....don't answer.
Then, on Tuesday evening...send a feeler text about how her weekend was and see if you can re initiate.
either that....or wait until Tuesday and reinitiate per above theme.

Quote: (11-23-2014 01:31 PM)robreke Wrote:  

I'd wait until after thanksgiving and do one of the following:

Nothing for now....radio silence.

On Saturday around mid afternoon text: Hope your thanksgiving was good. When she replies.....don't answer.
Then, on Tuesday evening...send a feeler text about how her weekend was and see if you can re initiate.
either that....or wait until Tuesday and reinitiate per above theme.

No thanksgiving in Europe really But I'll wait for now and text her in a week or so, unless she innitiates, which is rather unlikely from her not suggesting another date.

Quote: (11-23-2014 11:46 AM)trainwreck Wrote:  

Set up date with this girl from last week, already made out with her, she knows I'm pretty well off financially, due to her seeing me drive around in my car, etc.

We set up a date last tuesday for this saturday evening. I msg her to confirm on friday and she's saying "i hope so, I'm out of town right now but I think I am back tomorrow, blah blah"

Saturday, I send her a feeler text saying something along the lines of "jesus, so hungover.. how you doing?"

Reads it, doesn't answer. Doesn't even cancel the date on saturday evening. I obviously had already made other plans, but decide to call her out anyway today (sunday afternoon) on it.

Me: what's up flaky mc flake
Her: (thumbs up smiley)
Me: (shit smiley)
Her: ??
Me: confirming a meet up and then not even bother cancelling it... self-respecting men don’t play those early twenties games. take care mademoiselle
her 30mins after:
I reallyreally forgot it, I've was so into organizing this suprise-bday yesterday
You didn't overdue it aswell
I'm sorry for letting u wait
Take care u too

Next? Or should I send the part 2 of the anti flake text?
Well, we can reschedule but you’d have to put forth the effort

I know she's into me but she's also a 8 with a severe "social butterfly" disorder...

Don't message again. You already made it melodramatic with your 'take care' line.

Just see her out sometime and rinse repeat fuck. Nothing happened.

anyone ever call a girl out on their non responses? I mean ones that you've done sexual things with?

I have a girl who's gives me periodic blow jobs. Used to see her once every 10 days. She texted me Friday and Saturday night as to what I was doing but couldn't see me as her family was staying with her ( I saw her out with them )

But...whenever I respond to one of her texts and follow with " let's hang out...when are you going to be free?" she just ignores and doesn't respond.

Earlier today she texted and I sent ....." want me to come by later and say hey/ drill you on your test stuff?"

Radio freaking silence .

Im thinking of texting " I just woke up from a long ass nap....I take by the radio silence you're not interested in company .....lol"

I'm getting a bit pissed at her initiating texts but dodging seeing me. Thoughts?

Quote: (11-23-2014 08:36 PM)robreke Wrote:  

anyone ever call a girl out on their non responses? I mean ones that you've done sexual things with?

I have a girl who's gives me periodic blow jobs. Used to see her once every 10 days. She texted me Friday and Saturday night as to what I was doing but couldn't see me as her family was staying with her ( I saw her out with them )

But...whenever I respond to one of her texts and follow with " let's hang out...when are you going to be free?" she just ignores and doesn't respond.

Earlier today she texted and I sent ....." want me to come by later and say hey/ drill you on your test stuff?"

Radio freaking silence .

Im thinking of texting " I just woke up from a long ass nap....I take by the radio silence you're not interested in company .....lol"

I'm getting a bit pissed at her initiating texts but dodging seeing me. Thoughts?

The last thing you want to do is lash out at her, I'm sensing scarcity, you need to game other girls, and not hang on this girls every text.

Don't tell her "let's hangout" tell her your plans "You, Me, at X (place) at Y (time). Sometimes this will force a response back as in:
"Sure ok sounds good" to a Counter Offer to Radio Silence.

Don't ask if she wants to do anything - tell her what you're doing.
"Hey I'm stopping by at X(time)" Once again you'll receive a confirmation, counter offer, or radio silence.

Some important questions are: Why haven't you banged her ? Have you ? Why are you getting only BJ's from her ?


She's running game on you man, she sending out texts as bait to see if you're interested, you text her back, she doesn't respond, she gets in your head.

This should be the OTHER way around.

At this point, you should eject, go radio silent on her and leave it as it is.

If she contacts you great, if she doesn't you should be talking to other girls anyways.

But DO NOT CALL HER OUT ON IT - it's not useful, it's a waste of time, unless this bitch has done something really nasty to you.

I had a similar situation recently where a girl would ignore me whenever i asked. When are you free? What's your schedule like. Or lets hang out. Eventually I no longer gave a fuck. I had left something of mine with her and simply wanted it back. I sent out a "hey you seem busy but if you're not into me it's cool can i just have my item back"

Bitch blew up on me. told me not to double txt and accused me of being very passive aggressive.

I simply wanted my shit and had no interest in seeing her again or gaming her. There's no winning with these women. Lesson is: Don't call her out.

You can send a "im losing interest" i had that work before on a different girl but YMMV.

If a girl is really interested she'll make things happen and you won't have to chase her that hard. This doesn't apply for 95% of women.

I feel like I triggered a "bitch shield" or "anti-slut defence". Never banged her, but make out a few times.

   

It is not a bitch shield or anti slut defense. It is the period shit test. It is usually passed by saying "I will put a towel down and strap up, no problem" or some variation. Granted, I would NOT say that over a text. Instead, just say "No problem, just come over and chill" or some variation so that she has some sort of plausible deniability for her hamster.

The most relevant part of her text is that she is texting you saying that she is horny.

Quote: (11-23-2014 08:36 PM)robreke Wrote:  

anyone ever call a girl out on their non responses? I mean ones that you've done sexual things with?

I have a girl who's gives me periodic blow jobs. Used to see her once every 10 days. She texted me Friday and Saturday night as to what I was doing but couldn't see me as her family was staying with her ( I saw her out with them )

But...whenever I respond to one of her texts and follow with " let's hang out...when are you going to be free?" she just ignores and doesn't respond.

Earlier today she texted and I sent ....." want me to come by later and say hey/ drill you on your test stuff?"

Radio freaking silence .

Im thinking of texting " I just woke up from a long ass nap....I take by the radio silence you're not interested in company .....lol"

I'm getting a bit pissed at her initiating texts but dodging seeing me. Thoughts?

No, I never am that invested or care enough. This is a successful mindset for me... My silence does the talking.

As for your situation, you gotta build it up again to the point where you sending that meetup text would be successful/feasible. It's like buying temperature in the old school game manuals.

Quote: (11-24-2014 02:15 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

Quote: (11-23-2014 08:36 PM)robreke Wrote:  

anyone ever call a girl out on their non responses? I mean ones that you've done sexual things with?

I have a girl who's gives me periodic blow jobs. Used to see her once every 10 days. She texted me Friday and Saturday night as to what I was doing but couldn't see me as her family was staying with her ( I saw her out with them )

But...whenever I respond to one of her texts and follow with " let's hang out...when are you going to be free?" she just ignores and doesn't respond.

Earlier today she texted and I sent ....." want me to come by later and say hey/ drill you on your test stuff?"

Radio freaking silence .

Im thinking of texting " I just woke up from a long ass nap....I take by the radio silence you're not interested in company .....lol"

I'm getting a bit pissed at her initiating texts but dodging seeing me. Thoughts?

The last thing you want to do is lash out at her, I'm sensing scarcity, you need to game other girls, and not hang on this girls every text.

Don't tell her "let's hangout" tell her your plans "You, Me, at X (place) at Y (time). Sometimes this will force a response back as in:
"Sure ok sounds good" to a Counter Offer to Radio Silence.

Don't ask if she wants to do anything - tell her what you're doing.
"Hey I'm stopping by at X(time)" Once again you'll receive a confirmation, counter offer, or radio silence.

Some important questions are: Why haven't you banged her ? Have you ? Why are you getting only BJ's from her ?


She's running game on you man, she sending out texts as bait to see if you're interested, you text her back, she doesn't respond, she gets in your head.

This should be the OTHER way around.

At this point, you should eject, go radio silent on her and leave it as it is.

If she contacts you great, if she doesn't you should be talking to other girls anyways.

But DO NOT CALL HER OUT ON IT - it's not useful, it's a waste of time, unless this bitch has done something really nasty to you.

Yes...I am going radio silence. I'm almost to the point where I'm going to let HER ASK ME OUT.

As for why I only get BJs. We've almost had sex after blow jobs a few times but she says "no, if we have sex, I'll want to get into this big relationship and have sex everyday"

Also...in numerous casual conversations she has said "Sex makes me crazy...I mean really crazy" She also said " I'm very interested in sex and how it affects psychology"

From this evidence...I think she's kind of an odd lot. A girl who truly may turn into Glen Close from Fatal Attraction if I have sex with her or some variation of that. She speaks as if once she has sex with a man....she'll be his slave or some such. So, it's just damn good blow jobs.

I know she likes me because I had lunch with her two weeks ago and she texts me after......"you looked sexy"

She ran into me this weekend with her brother and family friends at this bar. I was just hanging with a buddy at the bar. She repeatedly stood in front of me talking with family friends so she could be in eye sight. She also texted me while there " are u on a date?" and then "u look nice tonight"

She came over to me while I was at the bar and we hugged and talked a bit...but point is ....mixed signals. Honestly, what bothers me a bit...is she's barely hot enough for me to date. I mean I personally think she's a full point below me on the looks scale. So...I guess I'm a bit indignant that just a slightly pretty girl would dare not want me over whenever she could get me.

Oh well....I got a date with an auburn student Tuesday night. HB7.5. Definitely hotter.

So I text Friday's girl with with a screener since we suggested a second meet on Wednesday.

She responds:

"It's ok. btw I'm not interesting in dating just to put that out in the clear. We can still be friends though."

Thinking of just responding with a simple "ok" or "k" and nexting her. But what have you guys done in that situation? Left the door open for social circle game?

Quote: (11-24-2014 05:14 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

So I text Friday's girl with with a screener since we suggested a second meet on Wednesday.

She responds:

"It's ok. btw I'm not interesting in dating just to put that out in the clear. We can still be friends though."

Thinking of just responding with a simple "ok" or "k" and nexting her. But what have you guys done in that situation? Left the door open for social circle game?

"Woah who said anything about getting married !? "

I usually try to get a reaction out of them, and find out what's going on with their hamster.

A girl I banged saturday told my friends wife: "I don't if you pass my number, just as long as you let him know i'm laid back and probably not looking for anything."

Says the girl who was showing PDA when we're at bars and affection the morning after sex.

Depends on how your first date was, if your guy tells you its a dead lead, then next her, if you think you have a shot still (think actions not words) then hangout 1 more time and gauge her.

Thing is, I bet she says yeah we can hangout as friends - you make plans and she'll come up with some lame ass excuse and/or go radio silent on you.

Well, the first date generally went well, though she had to leave a bit early. We were kissing.

But now (after my "ok") she says she wants to be my friend "when she reactivates her Facebook" but she "couldn't remember my last name" (when it should be clearly visible in the text thread we have). If there's one thing for certain, that would be a foolish course of action.

Super cute half russian, half finnish girl - 19yo, quite shy- has been to a houseparty at my apartment, been back here since, we made out, groped. We have setup a dinner date once, but she cancelled apologetically the day before, because she had to go to a goodbye party of a friend who was moving to australia. No big deal and I kept texting with her once in a while. She calls me last weekend at 2am, inviting me to join her and her girls at some bday party. I decline, since I know her friends are insane attention whores and i know she won't leave her friends bday anyway.

Sunday I text her:

Me: Hey there, let's stop these games. I want to see you. let's grab a drink at xx tonight at 8pm or monday 9pm?
Her: I want to see you too! But today I'm going to meet my grandmother with my mother and I always have so much homework to do...
Her: Let's talk about this on monday
Me: Sure

Later in the afternoon-
Me: (cool video of us drifting in the middle of a snowy forest road with a supercar - she's into cars)
Her: <3 <3 <3
Me: So how did the grandmother meetup go. Did she make you some Borsh?

She hasn't replied since or innitiated contact.. wondering what to do, as the lead was quite warm

Quote: (11-25-2014 06:52 AM)trainwreck Wrote:  

Me: So how did the grandmother meetup go. Did she make you some Borsh?

She hasn't replied since or innitiated contact.. wondering what to do, as the lead was quite warm

I find it can be problematic to ask questions over text because it sets up a "you're the chaser" dynamic. I mean, you want to keep the convo going, but the competition for attractive girls is fierce.

I think another problem was you wrote "let's talk about this Monday" - it lets her know you're readily available.

Ask fewer questions, and make more statements (that are interesting/funny). So try with the "I just built the world's smallest snowman" line and see how she responds.

^^ Yeah. I need to stop asking questions too.

Girl I picked up yesterday didn't hook as easily to my bait. I'll have to re-initiate contact today and then try to call to build rapport.

Quote: (11-25-2014 11:23 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  

Quote: (11-25-2014 06:52 AM)trainwreck Wrote:  

Me: So how did the grandmother meetup go. Did she make you some Borsh?

She hasn't replied since or innitiated contact.. wondering what to do, as the lead was quite warm

I find it can be problematic to ask questions over text because it sets up a "you're the chaser" dynamic. I mean, you want to keep the convo going, but the competition for attractive girls is fierce.

I think another problem was you wrote "let's talk about this Monday" - it lets her know you're readily available.

Ask fewer questions, and make more statements (that are interesting/funny). So try with the "I just built the world's smallest snowman" line and see how she responds.

You misunderstood it there.. she was the one who wrote "lets talk about this monday"... but fair enough, the snowman version is pretty good, since there's snow all over the place here now. thanks

met a college girl home for holiday on sunday at bookstore. Good 8 minute convo. Good body language and she seemed like she didn't want to walk away at the end of the convo. I set a date for tonight and she agreed. Texted her later on sunday and she texted back 90 minutes later saying nice to meet you.

about two hours before the date tonight...I get this:

her: Hey, I actually don't think I'm going to be able to make it tonight. my dad was out of town last night and tonight is the only time i'll really get tp spend with him.

Me 35 min later: K

Should I follow up with something like : are you free before you leave?

Or just let it die. She's only in town until sunday or I'd wait til next week to reinitiate.

Quote: (11-25-2014 06:52 PM)robreke Wrote:  

met a college girl home for holiday on sunday at bookstore. Good 8 minute convo. Good body language and she seemed like she didn't want to walk away at the end of the convo. I set a date for tonight and she agreed. Texted her later on sunday and she texted back 90 minutes later saying nice to meet you.

about two hours before the date tonight...I get this:

her: Hey, I actually don't think I'm going to be able to make it tonight. my dad was out of town last night and tonight is the only time i'll really get tp spend with him.

Me 35 min later: K

Should I follow up with something like : are you free before you leave?

Or just let it die. She's only in town until sunday or I'd wait til next week to reinitiate.

Could be a legit excuse, either way. Asking her if she's free after she's told you she'll be busy would look a bit needy.


Throw a feeler text the middle of this week to kindle the interest, if she texts back (and you're free next weekend) then make solid plans and have her confirm, then confirm the day before and a few hours before.

Either way not much time invested.

This is every exchange I have with OKC girls. The second I ask them out, they disappear.

http://imgur.com/a/InLwO

What should I be doing to close better?

I think what I'm doing wrong is,
-Asking them out too soon
-Not increasing buying temperature via text flirting.
-Not being a good clown via text

I didn't have the energy to run strong text game on her, I wasn't being exceptionally witty. I knew I was asking her out too soon, but I needed a current example for you guys. Also I don't care much about double texting. If you wait more than a day with these girls you'll never speak to them again. Kaotic, maybe you can weigh in.